@unavailable said:I'm going to repeat a totally too long comment . . .I agree with a lot of what you say in this post, and I do agree that Abby didn't necessarily argue her case particularly well, but I still feel some slack has to be cut. Not because she's new at this, but because she's a human being having a conversation with a microphone in front of her face, and we're people with a keyboard and way too much time to think through it all. We have a huge advantage in having archived audio to refer to as reference and write our mini essays tearing it all apart, and that's a schism that makes internet discussion a real terrifying place these days. It makes for a really skewed relationship between content consumers and content producers, and some respect should be given to the producers for having to put up with it.What makes me rest easier is that even though a perfectly cogent argument for Dream Daddies didn't completely take form in the discussion, there were kernels of something interesting there. What Vinny said earlier on - I forget which day of deliberation - of how completely Utopian Dream Daddies is to him sparked my interest. I really can't think of many other pieces of media that skate by these days on being unerringly hopeful and earnest. I'm trying my best not to put words in their mouths here, but it seemed to me what Vinny and Abby were trying to put together in their heads is that there is worth in not being confronted for once. Night in the Woods makes you tangle with finding yourself, Wolfenstein calls you to action to fight for liberty, but Dream Daddies? Things are just fine when you get there, and things are fine when you leave. That's impressive in a medium that, irrespective of genre, is obsessed with putting obstacles in front of you.Again, that concise conclusion is not present during the discussion, so it becomes a little inadmissible as evidence, but I would like to think that if Abby and Vinny weren't completely exhausted from recording they may have maybe put it all together in the end.