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TLDR:
Cyperpunk Marketing:
THIS WILL CHANGE YOUR LIFE
Actuality:
B-Tier game with bugs

Outriders Marketing:
"Oh us? Uh, yeah we have this B-game! Its offline! We swear!"
Actuality:
B-tier game that is definitely online

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I put roughly 100 hours into CP2077 and I've got about 40 into Outriders.

*MY* experience has been quite different but there are a few reasons for that:
I expected Outriders to be Trash and it turned out to be B-Tier
I expected CP2077 to be B-Tier and it turned out to be Trash
I played Outriders 3 days after it came out and missed the server issues.

I was an early "hater" of the CP2077 hype, wary of the devs dismissive rebuttals of legitimate complaints around the "Mix It Up" ads, and skeptical of the games ability to live up to it's lofty promises when I hadn't actually seen anything new in gameplay footage. I told anyone that would listen "It's just going to be an extremely pretty Deus-Ex game (the more recent pair of games) with more RPG elements." I was mostly right, except it wasn't even as good as the Deus-Ex reboot and the RPG elements were 90% passive stat boosts. And then the technical issues: constant crashes and sub-60 framerates when running on a RTX 3090. Not just some, "me buy big card and put in box" build either, I mean a EVGA FTW3 3090 with the Hybrid AiO cooler in a system with an 10900k and all the fixins. I eventually found a sweet spot to get the game stable but ran into endless glitches from minor UI bugs and unresponsive AI Enemies to loss of progress, bugged quests, stuck in world, missing NPCs, and mis-match responses from NPCs and events that had or hadn't taken place. The game couldn't even meet my lowered expectations.

Outriders on the other hand had been completely written off as lame Division/Destiny/Gears hybrid by the people who thought Bulletstorm needed Duke Nukem in it. And again, I was mostly right except it actually plays pretty decent, especially after you make it past the garbage story and into the much more intense "Expeditions" endgame mechanic.

But that's all a really longwinded way of saying I both do and don't agree with the OP's sentiment. I definitely think Outriders gets a bit of a pass as a kinda throwaway game from a lesser known studio and Cyberpunk gets a bit more heat because of how hard it was hyped up. However, I do think Outriders is a "better game" at launch. Network issues aside (which, while worsened by their claims that its "not a service game", isn't the end of the world IMO) Outriders works. I never had a single crash or error the entire time playing once the initial wave of server issues passed. Cyberpunk's issues go beyond it's bugs to the police not being even remotely close to realistic or acceptable and the traffic being fake. A perfect working CP2077 is still a disappointment at best.

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@janman

You lost that last run because you had "too much" attack speed.

The game doesn't explain this function at all but your character actually has a "Stamina Bar"

It's the grey-ish bar underneath the blue bar that represents your turn speed (Literally underneath, not below)

Every time you attack this grey bar drains, and slowly fills over time. If you attack faster than the bar can fill itself (roughly +50% attack speed) you will eventually exhaust yourself.

Once exhausted your turn bar will Turn/Stamina bar will turn orange and slowly fill. While it does this you have -50% Attack Speed AND -50% Evasion. You're a sitting duck! You won't notice it in world battles because the insane Attack Speed will just win you the battles before you Exhaust but you'll lose to the boss EVERY SINGLE TIME.

The game seems to really favor more balanced builds. The Stamina Bar is also more complicated than I let on, it seems to fill faster when you take hits or evade or counter or something but I haven't figured out exactly how it works TBH. All I know is if you attack too fast you'll regret it.

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Playing live on the archive page? Weird, cool, confusing. Also first!

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@fontelroy: It's almost like there are technical hurdles to doing content from home on consumer internet with consumer level tech instead of the studio they'd normally have outside a pandemic.

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@nukesniper: PC/Xbox same day, Playstation etc is in 6months.

Only stipulation is that the PC version has to be the Xbox Store/GamePass version. I don't believe the Epic version on PC is getting the update until Playstation does.

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It's starting to feel like shep shep cares more about parties than the galaxy

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FYI @jeff

Speedtest.com and most other speed test websites aren't capable of testing speeds above 750MBPS and have warnings saying if you are on Gigabit that you'll see 750 and may actually be higher. I'm sure there is some way to actually test Gigabit but I'm not personally aware.

EDIT: Copy/Pasted from the Google speedtest, you have to go 3 steps into "Learn More" to see this:
Note: Currently, the test can measure connection speeds up to 700 Mbps. If you have a connection speed over 700 Mbps, your results could be lower than your actual connection.

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@ybbaaabby: I was going for a "look, I can kill you but I didn't so I must be innocent don't vote for me again" but hindsight 20/20 I can see that easily coming off as "I'm chasing you down and as soon as my cool down is up I'm gonna kill ya"

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