Graphics are part of the ecperiance..... people who says graphics aren't that important are obviously delusional. Same goes for audio. Graphics can also make or break gameplay.
 
Gameplay can also be determined by graphics, or physics, that help culminate into the overall feel of the game...... 
 
GTA:IV - amazing game, incredible graphics, emmersive world, believable characters and story, Euphoria physics..... come on, don't waist your time and effort on wii, you dont have to settle for 2002 level of complexity games
 
I am not a "Fanboy" i just feel that nintendo only gamers should stop trying to support their half assed console... i would love for nintendo to make another n64 or even, dare i say..... gamecube
 
because the wii is just bad......
 
SORRY FOR RANT- dunno what came over me, some incredible hatred

" @ajamafalous: Well, I'm certainly not misquoting anyone. "

" I prefer everything in 1080p True  HD.  Even real life. "

" Graphics are part of the ecperiance..... people who says graphics aren't that important are obviously delusional. Same goes for audio. Graphics can also make or break gameplay.  Gameplay can also be determined by graphics, or physics, that help culminate into the overall feel of the game......   GTA:IV - amazing game, incredible graphics, emmersive world, believable characters and story, Euphoria physics..... come on, don't waist your time and effort on wii, you dont have to settle for 2002 level of complexity games  I am not a "Fanboy" i just feel that nintendo only gamers should stop trying to support their half assed console... i would love for nintendo to make another n64 or even, dare i say..... gamecube  because the wii is just bad......  SORRY FOR RANT- dunno what came over me, some incredible hatred "

" I prefer everything in 1080p True  HD.  Even real life. "

My bad, didnt know I was a fanboy for liking to look at my games and knowing what im seeing.

"You know what, fuck it.  It's impossible to try and talk about this with people like you, who think that piracy is "DOWNLOADING THE LATEST GAMES" . "

" My bad, didnt know I was a fanboy for liking to look at my games and knowing what im seeing. "

" My bad, didnt know I was a fanboy for liking to look at my games and knowing what im seeing. "

I could really care less about whether or not anything is in HD. Heck, my TV is smaller than my Macbook screen.

" @Hailinel: How are they being ignorant? Looks to me like those people just weren't willing to pay for a Wii to play one game, and would rather keep their current consoles. "

"My bad, didnt know I was a fanboy for liking to look at my games and knowing what im seeing. "

" @Jeffsekai said:

" My bad, didnt know I was a fanboy for liking to look at my games and knowing what im seeing. "

HOLY SHIT! I TRIED PLAYING SOME STREET FIGHTER 3: THIRD STRIKE ON MY DREAMCAST TO CELEBRATE THE OTHER DAY, BUT I COULDN'T UNDERSTAND THE SQUIGGLES ON MY SCREEN!  I'm sorry if that sounded like a dickhole, but it sums up the gist of that quote. And I'm not being sarcastic when I'm saying I don't want to be a dick to you. "

The game looked kinda repetitive and didn't really interest me all that much. I don't think it not being in HD had anything to do with it....

" @MrGetBonus said:

" For a game where much of its charm lies in visuals, is it really so wrong to wish it was on an HD compatible console? The game has no motion controls and can be played with the classic/gamecube controller right? Then it has no benefit to being on the Wii and could only be better if it was brought to the PS3/360 instead where it could make use of better HD graphics. "

So you're saying that a game needs motion controls to justify being on the Wii exclusively? "

" @Hailinel said:

" @MrGetBonus said:

" For a game where much of its charm lies in visuals, is it really so wrong to wish it was on an HD compatible console? The game has no motion controls and can be played with the classic/gamecube controller right? Then it has no benefit to being on the Wii and could only be better if it was brought to the PS3/360 instead where it could make use of better HD graphics. "

So you're saying that a game needs motion controls to justify being on the Wii exclusively? "

Yes. "

" @MrGetBonus said:

" @Hailinel said:

" @MrGetBonus said:

" For a game where much of its charm lies in visuals, is it really so wrong to wish it was on an HD compatible console? The game has no motion controls and can be played with the classic/gamecube controller right? Then it has no benefit to being on the Wii and could only be better if it was brought to the PS3/360 instead where it could make use of better HD graphics. "

So you're saying that a game needs motion controls to justify being on the Wii exclusively? "

Yes. "

Then by the same token, does a PS3 game require SixAxis support to justify being a PS3 exclusive? "

" The game looked kinda repetitive and didn't really interest me all that much. I don't think it not being in HD had anything to do with it.... "

Why do you care about what other people say? They like what they like and that's that. No point in trying to change them.

I think Muramasa is pretty enough as it is, but you have to wonder what could have been. Just increasing the resolution makes a big difference. To put it this way, would you prefer a DVD copy of a movie to a BR?
 
That said, I think I've just found a game worth buying for my Wii. I love katanas, ninjas, samurais and all that stuff.

HD fanboys? Sorry, that doesn't really make sense. It's a fact that HD is better than SD, and that's all there is to it.

" HD fanboys? Sorry, that doesn't really make sense. It's a fact that HD is better than SD, and that's all there is to it. "

I read the comments and had some great laughs.

" I read the comments and had some great laughs. "

" @MrGetBonus said:

" @Hailinel said:

" @MrGetBonus said:

" For a game where much of its charm lies in visuals, is it really so wrong to wish it was on an HD compatible console? The game has no motion controls and can be played with the classic/gamecube controller right? Then it has no benefit to being on the Wii and could only be better if it was brought to the PS3/360 instead where it could make use of better HD graphics. "

So you're saying that a game needs motion controls to justify being on the Wii exclusively? "

Yes. "

Then by the same token, does a PS3 game require SixAxis support to justify being a PS3 exclusive? "

" @Hailinel said:

" @MrGetBonus said:

" @Hailinel said:

" @MrGetBonus said:

" For a game where much of its charm lies in visuals, is it really so wrong to wish it was on an HD compatible console? The game has no motion controls and can be played with the classic/gamecube controller right? Then it has no benefit to being on the Wii and could only be better if it was brought to the PS3/360 instead where it could make use of better HD graphics. "

So you're saying that a game needs motion controls to justify being on the Wii exclusively? "

Yes. "

Then by the same token, does a PS3 game require SixAxis support to justify being a PS3 exclusive? "

No, because the main draw of the Wii is its control system. The Wii is obviously graphically inferior but is supposed to make up for it with innovative motion controls. You take that away and you take away the best part about the Wii. Look at Wii Sports, one of the most popular Wii games. Take motion control away from that and what do you have? A really shitty game. "

Saying that people who want something in HD are elitists is ridiculous. HD has been pretty commonplace in the market for over a decade now and Nintendo can't get into gear. You might as well call people who want to watch television in that new fangled Colorvision elitist.
 
I say this as a Wii owner who hasn't turned his Wii on in about 18 months.

" @AgentJ: I think I'm in love with you.  Also,  Hailinel pretty much summed up my sentiments exactly. This happens with so many games that using the excuse that one game isn't enough to get you to buy a Wii is a poor one. After you've made such a statement about six or seven games than you  probably have enough to justify buying a Wii.  "

I never grew up getting the newest and best things. So now that I have an HDTV (on the way) and an Xbox 360 (that just got here) I want some good HD graphics darnit!

" Saying that people who want something in HD are elitists is ridiculous. HD has been pretty commonplace in the market for over a decade now and Nintendo can't get into gear. You might as well call people who want to watch television in that new fangled Colorvision elitist.  I say this as a Wii owner who hasn't turned his Wii on in about 18 months. "

I myself wish this game was on the 360 or ps3.  Its not because I need a game to be in HD to enjoy it, the artwork in muramasa speaks for itself....... its amazing.  I simply dont have a Wii because it lacks games and general gameplay that interests me, and the reason I say this is for one question: why exactly is muramasa only on the wii to begin with?  Its not as if the game uses anything unique to the Wii.  And can you really deny that the game would look nicer if the art assets were presented in an HD resolution?  Theres no reason to not want a beautiful game to look even better. 
 
I guess I'm mainly just sad that I cant play this game considering it wouldnt be a difficult port to another console.  The people who wouldnt play this game just because it isnt in HD are morons, but people that would like this on another console because they dont have a Wii and dont want one have a good point.  Sorry if this post isnt completely on topic, just felt like getting it off my chest........ I really want to play this game hehe.

" I myself wish this game was on the 360 or ps3.  Its not because I need a game to be in HD to enjoy it, the artwork in muramasa speaks for itself....... its amazing.  I simply dont have a Wii because it lacks games and general gameplay that interests me, and the reason I say this is that why exactly is muramasa only on the wii to begin with?  Its not as if the game uses anything unique to the Wii.  And can you really deny that the game would look nicer if the art assets were presented in an HD resolution?  Theres no reason to not want a beautiful game to look even better.   I guess I'm mainly just sad that I cant play this game considering it wouldnt be a difficult port to another console.  The people who wouldnt play this game just because it isnt in HD are morons, but people that would like this on another console because they dont have a Wii and dont want one have a good point.  Sorry if this post isnt completely on topic, just felt like getting it off my chest........ I really want to play this game hehe. "

" I have a 360 and a HD plasma television. I also have a Wii.  My 360 collection is about 25 games and the Wii 60.  I do not find anything about the 360 graphics that make me want to play it more.  In fact, I find some games simply horrible to look at - GTA IV. 

" @oldschool said:

" I have a 360 and a HD plasma television. I also have a Wii.  My 360 collection is about 25 games and the Wii 60.  I do not find anything about the 360 graphics that make me want to play it more.  In fact, I find some games simply horrible to look at - GTA IV. 

 I love great graphics and immersion and one can't deny other consoles excel over the Wii in that respect. There is more to a game than those elements, though. Like gameplay. For myself - and I can't really say why - I just don't find anything compelling about the Wii's typical gameplay. I own one. I also own a PS3, XBOX 360 and about 20 other consoles. I wanted to love the Wii. I'd love to be drawn to it all the time. But I'm not.  After more than two years, I only have 15 games for the Wii and about 15 games for the PS3 and about 120 games for the XBOX 360. Between the PS3 and 360, I'd just as well be playing all the games on the PS3, bu some aren't available, some are better on the 360, and the multi-player is almost always preferable on the 360. But... that's mostly a pragmatic decision rather than any sort of "OMG I love the 360" loyalty.  When it come to playing time... it probably comes out to the same proportions. I haven't even touched the week in a full 18 months. Last time I touched it was when Boom Blox came out and I played it for about an hour before shutting if off.  I guess I'm not overwhelmed by Mario and Mario related games and I don't find anything terribly interesting about pretending to bowl or row a boat with a Wiimote. More importantly, the lack of voice chat online and the difficulty in arranging connecting to and playing with other people on the Wii keeps me from even bothering. I know a few people with one and I just don't care enough to bother setting up the online stuff. And even if we did, how would we communicate about what it was we wanted to do next?  I definitely have nothing against the Wii. I just wish it had more for me. For what it's worth, my little sister loves to play it when she visits (she's in her early 20s) but that's about it. If I'm not their market, that's okay. I'm not the market for those "Imaginez" titles on the DS, either. Not everything that is put out has to cater to my tastes. "

I don't think that (some) people are complaining about the graphic per se.  I think the game looks great.  It's just when you see a game released in SD, and you have an HD set-up, you can't help but think that you've missed out on potential.  I know that plenty of people here really like 2-D games, and in this day in age, not many of them are being made.  So when one comes out on a SD system, I can see how people are like "damn, the one 2-D game they make this year and it's held back by the Wii".  I'm just saying.

I really wish the term "fanboy" would go away. It really is a meaningless term. I've been called a 360 and PS3 fanboy, sometimes in the same thread.

" @AgentJ:   Just because I dont own a Wii doesnt mean I dont know whats on the Wii.  I have multiple friends who own them and have played any game that actually catches my attention.  I actually owned a Wii for about a year myself before I sold it off.  What I'm saying is, if you dont like the fact that I dont find the Wii interesting, fine, but dont assume I know nothing about it.  I didnt say the Wii has no games of value for it, but I'm not the only one who finds not only the library less than lack luster but I find the features to be so as well.  I would appreciate it if i wasnt treated with the ignorance stamp so easily.  I dont blame anyone for owning a Wii, I can understand the appeal.  There is just no appeal for me.  My response is the result of how I read your comment, I apologize if I took it the wrong way.  Edit: And to reiterate, Muramasa is the only game on the Wii I have seen that I would actually want to spend time on....... that is just not the kind of console I want to spend my money on.  Again, not saying other games are bad, just saying there arent any that warrant my money being spent. "   

" @MrGetBonus said:

" @Hailinel said:

" @MrGetBonus said:

" @Hailinel said:

" @MrGetBonus said:

" For a game where much of its charm lies in visuals, is it really so wrong to wish it was on an HD compatible console? The game has no motion controls and can be played with the classic/gamecube controller right? Then it has no benefit to being on the Wii and could only be better if it was brought to the PS3/360 instead where it could make use of better HD graphics. "

So you're saying that a game needs motion controls to justify being on the Wii exclusively? "

Yes. "

Then by the same token, does a PS3 game require SixAxis support to justify being a PS3 exclusive? "

No, because the main draw of the Wii is its control system. The Wii is obviously graphically inferior but is supposed to make up for it with innovative motion controls. You take that away and you take away the best part about the Wii. Look at Wii Sports, one of the most popular Wii games. Take motion control away from that and what do you have? A really shitty game. "

Well the 360 is inferior in both graphics and hardware to the PS3, so why isn't every game made for the PS3 rather than the 360? Why would anyone make anything for a console that isn't the PS3? "

Yeah all such views are totally idiotic in my eyes, for a number of reasons.  
 
  
The claims that it would play better on 360 are dumb, how could it with the shittest D-pad (ever made on a popular console) of all the consoles, and it's loose thumbstick?  This game requires responsive tight controls that the Nintendo controlers deliver.
 

The game looks awesome in every respect already, it would benefit very little with HD output, apart from appealing to HD hoars.  Vannilaware dont care about HD graphics, they see the game as stunning without them and easier to construct on Wii.      
  
1UP Game Night for anyone's that's interested...
 
  http://www.giantbomb.com/muramasa-the-demon-blade/61-24017/muramasa-the-demon-blade-1-up-game-night-50-mins/35-261784/#8
 
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" I don't think that (some) people are complaining about the graphic per se.  I think the game looks great.  It's just when you see a game released in SD, and you have an HD set-up, you can't help but think that you've missed out on potential.  I know that plenty of people here really like 2-D games, and in this day in age, not many of them are being made.  So when one comes out on a SD system, I can see how people are like "damn, the one 2-D game they make this year and it's held back by the Wii".  I'm just saying. "

" @AgentJ said:

" @MrGetBonus said:

" @Hailinel said:

" @MrGetBonus said:

" @Hailinel said:

" @MrGetBonus said:

" For a game where much of its charm lies in visuals, is it really so wrong to wish it was on an HD compatible console? The game has no motion controls and can be played with the classic/gamecube controller right? Then it has no benefit to being on the Wii and could only be better if it was brought to the PS3/360 instead where it could make use of better HD graphics. "

So you're saying that a game needs motion controls to justify being on the Wii exclusively? "

Yes. "

Then by the same token, does a PS3 game require SixAxis support to justify being a PS3 exclusive? "

No, because the main draw of the Wii is its control system. The Wii is obviously graphically inferior but is supposed to make up for it with innovative motion controls. You take that away and you take away the best part about the Wii. Look at Wii Sports, one of the most popular Wii games. Take motion control away from that and what do you have? A really shitty game. "

Well the 360 is inferior in both graphics and hardware to the PS3, so why isn't every game made for the PS3 rather than the 360? Why would anyone make anything for a console that isn't the PS3? "

You can't compare the difference in graphics between the PS3 vs 360 to Wii vs PS3/360. The difference is much greater. Also, my argument is that this game would benefit from being on the 360/PS3 over the Wii and not the difference between the the 360 and PS3. I think both the PS3 and 360 excel in different areas and that the only thing the Wii has over these two consoles is the controls. All I'm saying is this game could only be better if it was on the PS3/360. You obviously disagree so why not, instead of trying to apply my statements to other arguments, tell me why this game is better BECAUSE it's on the Wii. "

Man, I should buy stocks in the bifocal industry if so many people have so bad eyesight that they can't see anything unless it's in HD.
 
MrGetBonus has a point though. This game isn't better because it's on the Wii and it certainly wouldn't hurt if this game was in HD, but the amount of ignorant graphic whores that have been outed by this discussion should be shocking. Unfortunately it's not.

" @AgentJ:  Your skepticism is based on a generality.  I dont need excuses for you to brand me as someone who is Ignorant, I simply dont need to be treated that way....... and I dont care how many fall under that group, it just comes off as arrogance.  For all you know I know more about the Wii than you do simply because I still have access to one and follow the industry as much or more as you do.  Now does that mean I know more than you? Of course not, I'm just stringing together your logic.    You yourself can be alot worst than those who are ignorant, its fine to get the message out and try to enlighten people but you dont need to associate it with a superior tone.  I'm not in the best of moods, and I'm sure I would apologize for over-reacting if I was of a sounder mind.  So Ill just say it:  Sorry if I over-reacted to your comment, again, its just how I'm reading it. "

" Yeah all such views are totally idiotic in my eyes, for a number of reasons.  
 
  
The claims that it would play better on 360 are dumb, how could it with the shittest D-pad (ever made on a popular console) of all the consoles and it's loose analog?  This game requires responsive tight controls.
 
 
The game looks awesome in every respect already, it would benefit very little with HD output, apart from appealing to HD hoars.  There's a good interview on the Vanillaware's page that explains why it's on Wii.- Vannilaware dont care about HD graphics, they see the game as stunning without them and easier to contruct on Wii through programming.     ... "