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#1  Edited By Still_I_Cry

@leinad44: Someone dissed Southerners for no reason, I said I agreed that I had hoped the new Walking Dead would come out soon but that I don't like that he dissed Southerners for no reason. Zoom, people on my ass.

e@Puddlesworth: Learn how to read.

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@Jazzycola: Give me a break. There was far, far more to it than just "hey we want to own slaves" as that privilege was reserved for the richer Southerners. Many were subsistence farmers, and by many, I mean, the vast majority, meaning, they didn't own slaves, they had to live off the land in order to survive, meaning they weren't selling their crops in large portions, they were farming, without slaves, in order to stay alive.

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@MariachiMacabre: You do realize that the civil war was actually the South fighting for their States' Rights, I hope. As such, the Confederate flag symbolizes that, not slavery or whatever bullshit you think it symbolizes. Nutjob for flying a Confederate flag? Really.

I'm a history major so of course I do. I also realize neither Robert E. Lee nor Jefferson Davis were for slavery in any capacity. That does not remove the stigmas attached to the Confederate flag nor does it negate the fact that groups like the KKK don't use it to symbolize states rights they use it to symbolize their forms of oppression and hate. Many who fly the confederate flag aren't nutjobs but in some people eyes the few that are nutjobs spoil the bunch and view the flying of the flag as a form of hate speech. But I suppose if you want to flip out more that's fine too. I was simply attempting to explain the misconception.

But the problem is, the people flying the flag fly it in order to symbolize their rights, not slavery. Let me ask you, I am sure you argue that not ALL muslims are suicide bombers, right? Just because a few blew themselves up doesn't mean we should assume they all will. To a vast, vast majority of the South, those flags symbolize far far different things, not slavery. So, really, they have a right to fly the flag, just because people in the North are ingrates and don't understand history, instead, running to cry racism and call Southerners bigots and slave owners, doesn't mean that is why they fly the flag. "Groups like the KKK don't use it to symbolize states rights they use it to symbolize their forms of oppression and hate" Yeah? Groups like the Taliban and Al Quaeda use the Quran to symbolize violence and oppression of women, are you going to say that the Muslims' holy book is also a symbol of such because a select group of people said so? No, I am sure you wouldn't.

@Hailinel: Except the Nazis used it to symbolize that hatred, many in the South at the time of the war were not and still do not associate the flag with slavery and oppression of certain ethnicities. They also didn't try to take over the world (Southerners) and force others to believe what they did, Lincoln instigated the war instead of letting slavery die a natural death like he originally planned, which resulted in retaliation from the South and the subsequent war.

Lincoln didn't instigate anything. John Brown's Abolitionist uprising started the argument and, subsequently, the war. After the Kansas Abolitionists won the Bleeding Kansas conflict and entered the Union as a free state, Congresses already heated arguments over slavery got much worse. And I'm just going to say my opinion here. When it comes to the subject of slavery, fuck states' rights. I do not have faith in the idea that slavery would naturally die out in a timely enough manner. It still took us one hundred more years to give them equal rights.

Oh no, the fact that he promised the Northerners that he would maintain his hold over government land (meaning the States) had nothing to do with it. Supplying forts with ammunition before the South had officially declared secession (not war) also had nothing to do with it. I'm going to give my opinion, I find it hilarious that 4 people hopped on my ass over the simple statement that I didn't care for the idiotic dissing of the South for no reason, I find it hilarious that you don't mind if a government takes away the rights of a State, I think it would have died out in due time, no slaves would be imported, land would become infertile, slavery could not be spread to states that had no slaves. They have more than equal rights, don't even start that shit.

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#2  Edited By Still_I_Cry

@Jazzycola: Give me a break. There was far, far more to it than just "hey we want to own slaves" as that privilege was reserved for the richer Southerners. Many were subsistence farmers, and by many, I mean, the vast majority, meaning, they didn't own slaves, they had to live off the land in order to survive, meaning they weren't selling their crops in large portions, they were farming, without slaves, in order to stay alive.

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@MariachiMacabre: You do realize that the civil war was actually the South fighting for their States' Rights, I hope. As such, the Confederate flag symbolizes that, not slavery or whatever bullshit you think it symbolizes. Nutjob for flying a Confederate flag? Really.

I'm a history major so of course I do. I also realize neither Robert E. Lee nor Jefferson Davis were for slavery in any capacity. That does not remove the stigmas attached to the Confederate flag nor does it negate the fact that groups like the KKK don't use it to symbolize states rights they use it to symbolize their forms of oppression and hate. Many who fly the confederate flag aren't nutjobs but in some people eyes the few that are nutjobs spoil the bunch and view the flying of the flag as a form of hate speech. But I suppose if you want to flip out more that's fine too. I was simply attempting to explain the misconception.

But the problem is, the people flying the flag fly it in order to symbolize their rights, not slavery. Let me ask you, I am sure you argue that not ALL muslims are suicide bombers, right? Just because a few blew themselves up doesn't mean we should assume they all will. To a vast, vast majority of the South, those flags symbolize far far different things, not slavery. So, really, they have a right to fly the flag, just because people in the North are ingrates and don't understand history, instead, running to cry racism and call Southerners bigots and slave owners, doesn't mean that is why they fly the flag. "Groups like the KKK don't use it to symbolize states rights they use it to symbolize their forms of oppression and hate" Yeah? Groups like the Taliban and Al Quaeda use the Quran to symbolize violence and oppression of women, are you going to say that the Muslims' holy book is also a symbol of such because a select group of people said so? No, I am sure you wouldn't.

@Hailinel: Except the Nazis used it to symbolize that hatred, many in the South at the time of the war were not and still do not associate the flag with slavery and oppression of certain ethnicities. They also didn't try to take over the world (Southerners) and force others to believe what they did, Lincoln instigated the war instead of letting slavery die a natural death like he originally planned, which resulted in retaliation from the South and the subsequent war.

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#3  Edited By Still_I_Cry

@MariachiMacabre: You do realize that the civil war was actually the South fighting for their States' Rights, I hope. As such, the Confederate flag symbolizes that, not slavery or whatever bullshit you think it symbolizes. Nutjob for flying a Confederate flag? Really.

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#5  Edited By Still_I_Cry

I was with you until you dissed Southern people for no reason.

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#6  Edited By Still_I_Cry

I like the way it looks. The characters look cute but in a whimsical, fantasy kind of way that you don't get to see much of at all in modern games. People need to stop making it into something it isn't. The game isn't about "sexy furries" or anything, it's a game that happens to have animals as the main characters. You know, like Sam and Max, Wallace and Gromit or raving rabbids. What about in the Looney Tunes, Pepe La Pew's girlfriend Penelope Pussycat or Lola Bunny? They had a feminine figures. We can divorce those from the "furry" culture but not this? *sigh* -.-

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#7  Edited By Still_I_Cry

@NlGHTCRAWLER said:

@Moreau_MD said:

@Guided_By_Tigers: Cue a load of white-middle class early teens bragging about how awesome it is to be an atheist and how you'd have to be fucking stuuupid to believe in Gawd. All whilst sucking at the collective neo-conservative teat of Hitchens and Dawkins (try getting that image out of your head!). You're as much a sheep to their contrived way of 'free thinking' as the Christians you all so love to poke fun at are to their own God (never Islam or Hinduism though, don't actually have the stones for that).

I'm an atheist, but I despise threads like these. They're like one never ending, cancerous, circle-jerk of stale 'reasoning' and insults towards those who dare to belief otherwise. And always under the guise of a question or a vague knock at 'spirituality' in general- why don't you just be honest for once and create a thread with a title like 'Yo bra, God fucking sucks and is dumb, come lets all discuss how much better us atheists are not to believe in that crazy bullshit.'

Go back to masturbating over r/atheism troll.

F-F-F-F-Followed.

I never expected to see something like that on here. Hats off to you whoever posted that comment. Yes, I said hats.

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#8  Edited By Still_I_Cry

The minimum minimum wage? It varies from state to state I think.

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#9  Edited By Still_I_Cry

@mandude: Because I honestly thought people weren't crying about gun control. I was wondering if GiantBomb had somehow changed, as if all the liberals had left, then I looked at page 3 and posted my reaction. If my statement was baseless that should have been apparent, you didn't need to point it out in the first place :D

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#10  Edited By Still_I_Cry

@mandude: Sorry, haven't been on the site much. They aren't worth arguing with as they haven't taken the time to research gun crimes. To be honest, I genuinely was surprised it took that long. I am curious why you bothered to respond.