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Giant Bombcast 09-27-2011

With Jeff in Vegas, Ryan, Vinny, Patrick, and Brad explore the limits of microphone clipping, Total Recall technology, marathon Gears of War 3 horde sessions, the mystery of From Software, AMC's Breaking Bad featuring Rage from id Software, and the raw, uncut truth about Resident Evil.

The Giant Bombcast is the world's most beloved video game podcast, and now it's available in video form.

Sep. 27 2011

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I can support Breaking Bad talk.
 
On a side note, with the sheer length of this podcast I had some extra time to kill.  Beat Sonic 1 randomly during that last hour, which was a good choice!

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I will never understand how so many people don't care that their rights are dying to a million cuts.

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casting bombs!

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So much Dark Souls on this podcast it's amazing. It's nice that Ryan, Patrick and Brad don't just shit on it and throw it under the rug.

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Lot of incorrect uses of "literally" this week.

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@AuthenticM said:

Ryan, please release the Resident Evil discussion from last week. Who minds that the bombcast is 3 hours long? It's great. That's what we got this week, afterall.

I concur. I'm a huge RE fan and would love to hear this.

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Oh god, Dark Souls Quick Look. Can't wait.

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Patrick not liking fantasy as a whole made me think of him differently from now on. To each their own, glad the rest of the crew reacted the way that I would.

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Dammit Ryan, why are you cutting down the podcast? I get if there are actual technical quality levels, but if it's honest conversation, on-topic or not, there's no real reason to get rid of it. I understand the need to appeal to a wider audience and keep bandwidth costs down, but then at least put the cut content out as a separate premium podcast or something of that ilk. Hey, maybe that's what Whiskey's in-development multi-podcast tools are for.

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Dark Souls! Almost here! Wooop!!

(It's not as hard as people think, try it!)

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Can anyone deduce what Gears horde map they were playing?

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Loved the horde story, wish my friends would fucking buy the game already or hurry up with the damn campaign bah so frustrating playing horde with randoms. Also why aren't more people playing beast, holy shit is that stuff fun.

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How the hell did it take 4 hours for the first 40 waves of horde? The longest it's taken me to get there with a random matchmaking party is 90 minutes.

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@Dylabaloo: They call it by name during the story. It's Sandbar. You know, the one on the beach. With the sand.

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Well, there you go.

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Hey, what's with Ryan's "reason's to believe" you shouldn't buy a strategy guide for Dark Souls?

I was debating buying the big guide when I pick the game up next week. I mean, I want to go in cold, and figure stuff out, but if it's anything like Demon's Souls there'll be tons of stuff I want to know for my second playthrough.

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skyrim

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I get the feeling that some disparaging things will be said about RE Code Veronica that will make me very unhappy. Damn.

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Holy Crap!!! I just realized that there are new Videogame Movies that Ryan HASN'T seen!!!! That means there are new TANG episodes pending!!!!!!!!!!

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FINALLY! a Whiskey Media podcast that talks about Breaking Bad instead of just mentioning it.

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I agree with Patrick about the Gears of War 3 story. I didn't really feel anything for any of the characters, and it felt mostly like fumbling around until the very last act. Fun game, but the whole Gears trilogy plot was pretty bland overall.

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Petition for Ryan to upload the Bombcast as is. I don't care if it's 4 hours weekly, this has become the only video game podcast I listen to. I CAN HANDLE IT!

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Absolutely NO ONE in Texas says it Die-ablo, I'm from Tx and when I moved to California I lived in a town right near Mt. Diablo (pronounced Die-ablo) and I freaking hated everyone there for being so stupid about that words pronunciation. Just saying ;P

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@Slaker117 said:

Weird to hear how strong Brad reenforced that Diablo 3 was a "real" beta, almost angrily. I feel like there is a false sense that video game betas have become nothing more than a marketing move. It's true that they are used partly as marketing tools, but even then, the vast majority them still take feedback and data, and use that to inform development. You don't get that much free playtesting and simply do nothing with it.

I've noticed this too. Every time a beta goes up there's always a snarky jaded person asking accusatory if it's a "real" beta, and the answer is almost always yes. I don't really like seeing that Internet-y bullshit coming from journalists.

I kinda wonder where that misinformed general impression came from.

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Winning!

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God I hate total recall, it scares the crap out of me.

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I've only listened to the first 25 mins so far but Vinny recalling their efforts when trying for the horde mode achievement was brilliant. In more and more cases I am finding myself enjoying hearing/watching other peoples efforts more than actually playing the game myself.

For good measure Vinny threw in a masturbating reference too. That's our Vinny!

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Vinny, if you want to play as a knight, just block and strafe/run more. Seriously, you don't need to roll that much. Though I love rolling so I go for the lighter classes, but yeah.

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I could listen to vinny talk for hours. He seems to come at everything from such a high level and not to be persuaded or prejudiced easily, yet always funny. I'm so glad he stuck up for demon's souls; not because it's the best game of all time, but because it gets an unfair rap for being the most difficult game of all time when it isn't. He summed it up super well and ends making everyone but ryan atleast want to give them game a shot even if they hate it. It really deserves that for how unique a property it is.
 
Also, I wish I worked in an office with a shitload of gamers. I'm caring less and less if the wii-u only supports one pad controller because 95% of my game time is spent alone or online with just like 1-2 friends anyway, big co-op Gears 3 games are completely out of the question unfortunately.

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@Vortextk said:

I could listen to vinny talk for hours. He seems to come at everything from such a high level and not to be persuaded or prejudiced easily, yet always funny. I'm so glad he stuck up for demon's souls; not because it's the best game of all time, but because it gets an unfair rap for being the most difficult game of all time when it isn't.

This is mostly the fanbase's and how the developer's fault. Alot of the marketing focuses way too much on how hard it is.

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The Kryll were destroyed by the lightmass bomb at the end of the first game. You kill them with light, and that's why they are gone.

I don't agree that people are over praising the story. It isn't dealing with high level concepts, have massive plot twists with complex meaning but it is a well portrayed and written action story with engaging characters. The fact that I care what happens says a lot. Karen Travvis really humanised the characters and fleshed out the universe in the books and that continues in to this game.

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Here´s the thing guys: Gears 3 is waaay too easy- even on Hardcore. You don´t die if they hit you with a bow/boomshot/mortar in SP. You just go down. Don´t know why they would do that, guess they just wanted to cater to stupid non gamer people.

I was just breezing through the game on Hardcore and it just made me sad. C´mon Epic, why fuck up a perfectly fine game like this?? Just make people DIE if they get hit with the hard stuff.

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@Antihippy: I don't disagree, but ever since I've listened to giantbomb(months after playing the game) that's all I ever hear from any of them ad nauseam. It's like, state it, and move on; but they always belabor the point and drive it into the ground without obviously playing more than a quicklook's worth of the game if ever setting their hand on the controller.
 
They have to make judgment on tons of games all the time on the spot without a ton of prior knowledge, I'm not harping on that point, it's just the seriousness of the "man that shit is crazy, people are fucking crazy to ever play such a masochistic game, everyone must just like cutting themselves!". I'm a pretty sucky gamer and as soon as you "get it" you're like, oh, it's fucking punishing, but it really isn't that "difficult".
 
Maybe like Vinny said all of their experience was pre-release so they had no online tutorial stuff or other player backup. Who knows. The audience just isn't going to get wider with as you said, the fanbase and ads as well as every single article or spoken word about the game screaming "THIS GAME WILL FUCK YOU UP!" We moved past the "make you john romero's bitch" advertising right?
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@TEG said:

@AuthenticM said:

Ryan, please release the Resident Evil discussion from last week. Who minds that the bombcast is 3 hours long? It's great. That's what we got this week, afterall.

I concur. I'm a huge RE fan and would love to hear this.

I agree with this, I wanna hear it

Make it happen Ryan, never cut the podcast

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@Landon said:

Petition for Ryan to upload the Bombcast as is. I don't care if it's 4 hours weekly, this has become the only video game podcast I listen to. I CAN HANDLE IT!

Honestly made it frustrating listening to him rant about Star Trek and Quantum Leap later. How does he justify cutting out video game talk and leaving this is? I'm with you though, leave it all in!

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@Vortextk: I can perfectly see why someone would think this game is crazy. Me and you are probably way too close to the series to see it in anything but the fan's perspective, but I can see the average person would find it crazy difficult, and not get to the point where you learn from the punishing difficulty so that they can adapt to it, and be rewarded with what I think is one of the best goddamn combat system and world in an RPG ever.

Remember the first time facing the Mindflayers, or the shrine of storm's skeletons? Or the whole of 5-1? They were hard, and I can see quite a few people just being turned off and consider the game "crazy" without learning how to overcome it. Hell, first time through I went to 5-1 after 1-1 thinking that it was world 2 and I was going "wut" the entire time.

The crew have to cover alot of games and probably has alot more games they rather cover so I don't really blame them for thinking the game is crazy especially if they don't have time to really play it through and learn the nuances.

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"Masochist" is becoming my least favorite word.

Also, I wouldn't advise you guys to use a strategy guide for Dark Souls. Judging from the guides you see for Demon's Souls, it's going to set you on this completely weird, roundabout path that only makes sense if you've already played it 10 times.

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@Antihippy said: Again, it's just the brow beating over and over and over. It's like talking about a new bad game. "Did you play it?" "Yeah, not good, do not buy this game." And maybe some supporting facts, and that's it. I don't have to hear them rant about a terrible game that I might totally agree with every single time someone even mentions the title, but I do hear the same(not "terrible game" that was an example) comments about this every time. Honestly you can almost hear it in Vinny's voice.
 
I also really hate hard games and am really not good at them. I get frustrated as fuck and I AM the controller breaker out of any of my friends and DS? Not so much. But like I said it's not about learning the game, I'm fine they didn't, but just let it go man. It's not like the dragon came out of the game and then blazed your whole town.
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Excellent way to start my day.

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@Vortextk: Oh yeah, I can agree with that, though I think Vinny do actually like it, or at least is really fascinated by it. Their discussion of demon's souls is pretty cringe worthy sometimes back then.

It was mostly Jeff though, which makes me a little glad that he wasn't on today.

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Patrick summed up my feelings on Dead Island perfectly.

I had fun playing through it, but that was mainly because I was playing it entirely co-op. I have no intention to go back through and do it single-player.

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The guy who plays Sherlock Holmes in that TV series Sherlock is voicing Smaug, which is funny because the guy who plays Watson on that show plays Bilbo.

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Efff Texas and your Die-ablo talk. Totally kidding, that part just made me laugh having a number of friends from the texmex

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Did Patrick just drop the word "bomba" on the podcast? Ugh, I'm so completely sick of seeing that word at Neogaf.

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Castin dem bombs! Bomb castin!

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GoW3 horde experience sounds just like an MMO raid. Just keep pushing and that huge payoff after a sweaty night of work. lol

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Goddammit Ryan, Quantum Leap was an amazing show.

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Another reason to love Patrick: perfectly timed black sheep references

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Would have loved to hear that Resident Evil talk that was cut out from last weeks podcast. Mostly Jeff mirth against the franchise and the fact 8-4 podcast is doing a look back on the series.