Unfinished: Call of Duty: Modern Warfare (09/20/19)

I'm telling ya, when war hits ver. 1.0 it's gonna be great!

Edit: Now Zane I can get into!

Stay frosty.

I'm liking the beta, but I'm surprised how much it still feels and looks like Call of Duty. I thought it would be more of a departure.

I wonder if the mini-map confusion is tied to it possibly being set to hardcore mode without informing the player about it? Like the first beta rotation was accidently set to that mode for everyone or something.

For better and worse it seems like Call of Duty. After Infinite it was evident that hard fans of this series are not welcoming of change so I guess good on 'em for getting back to the core experience - boots on the ground if you will.

Kinda weird Borderlands gets shite for being more of the same but not CoD, like all of these maps look like CoD maps and the guns CoD guns(albeit due to being a realism issue)

@awkwardl0ser: Obviously, Jeff is biased for Call of Duty! (... actually...)

In a weird way, the yearly cycle and rotating developers have done favors for this year's Call of Duty against Borderlands 3. The heavy iteration means that rough ancillary edges are polished off. The rotating developers means that there were years where CoD was pretty different, so now there's... nostalgia for going back to something, a feeling that first came out in 2007.

Ben Pack death quotes should be all his bad opinions on food, frankly.

Fast roping without gloves seems like a good way to remove the skin from your hands. Gotta love that authentic COD "realism."

@awkwardl0ser: Yeah it is really weird.

I really wanted to like this Multiplayer but it's not 2007 anymore. Hard pass for me guyz :(

There is something off about the netcode in this game, at least on PS4. Sometimes people can see you on their screen before you see them on your screen, giving them a head-start on aiming and often killing you.

@awkwardl0ser said:

Are you literally incapable of understanding that people can grow tired of one thing and not another?

The cash flying out of you when you die is Payback, killing the player that last killed you. Cyber Attack is just Search and Destroy with revives. It would have been nice to hear Jeff's thoughts on the 32v32 Ground War playlist.

M&kb on console is an Epidemic

lmao this white phosporus "controversy"

Jeff seems really into this. I'm calling it - this'll be a serious GotY contender.

This game reminds me of that Medal of Honor 2010 reboot. It's even got the same dotted blue/white UI. The rendering looks very similar too.

@threeoct: Or Dan Rykert questions

Really been enjoying Ben's energy and sense of humor on a lot of the West Coast content lately.

Modern Warfare (The one that came out in 2007) is the last Call of Duty I bought, had loads of fun with it on the PC but everything since then has just appeared to be the same game over and over again, I admit I've not played any of them but I've never looked at a quick look of one of the new ones and been compelled to play them.

@tensionhead: Best laugh of the staff hands down!

This reminds me I bought Blops IIII and barely played it. It also remains my first and only battle royale experience.

As multiple pull-off-er of the 25 kill-streak Tactical Nuke. It does kill everyone on your team, the enemy team and yourself, all listed in the kill feed. It at least didn't show the terrible effects of an actual nuke. Not seen the white phosphorus kill streak but if it's "realistic", it's going to be pretty gruesome.

@brunoffs: lol for real

I look forward to when the franchise cycles around and future stuff is trending again.

If an enemy is killed and money flies out of their body that means the other player got PAYBACK on the dead player.

Jeff feigning surprise that he likes the new Call

Of Duty game is a classic Giant Bomb tradition.

As someone who plays each Call of Duty as they come out, the "lol its the same game retread every year" comments have always irked me. I've always assumed they're made by people that don't even play the games. On a macro level, yes you're on a team fighting against the other team using a variety of pistols, rifles, machine guns, etc. You aim with the left trigger and shoot with the right. But there are many nuances that go into each game. The handling of the guns, character movement, game modes in MW feel very different to Black Ops 4. It's not like Activision just hits the Call of Duty button every year to poop out a new random game. They have 3 teams so each game takes 3 years to make.

Ben's 'War is bad' take it pretty unique. Glad he was able to add such a nuanced voice to the discussion.

Anyway, can't wait for his next podcast repping an anime game sexualising little kids.

@aires: to the passer-by, yes it seems like the same old call of duty. But after playing it for a few hours I can tell you, this is far from the same. The guns have a different weight to them. The maps are more clustered and CQC focused. And it makes your heart race. It's more tactical than ever before. It's actually almost like a battlefield game now. Especially the 32v32.

And... I'm still not sure about it. I like what they're going for but I just think the time to death is too fast. I don't think I like it.

I'm always amazed at Jeff's controller FPS skills. I would be shooting the sky or floor half the time.

Computer, give me Soap and Zane dancing

@awkwardl0ser: very weird. Call of Duty is the Madden of first person shooters so it gets a pass I guess.

There's already a game where you can call napalm strikes on people. Its called Rising Storm 2: Vietnam. No one in the media seems to care about it since its not a popular game though.

Those graphics suck and gameplay seems bland.

Playing the second weekend of the Beta with a controller, it was apparent that at least one other player had a mouse. Mouse sniper wrecked everyone in two rounds. Hopefully matchmaking bugs get fixed for release.

@moda: Neither of those are questions. Two different teams making the same game 13 times with slight variations in 13 years and not getting called on it bothers me. If it doesn't bother you, awesome, to each their own.

They sure made COD4 again! Don't think this is gonna get me back in after years of not playing COD. Would love to get it on sale for the campaign though.

It's weird to focus on the white phosphorus stuff when its literally always been a game about killing people with guns, which is way more prevalent than white phosphorus.

I can enjoy COD through the lens of Jeff, anywhere else it comes across as pretty average.

This did look pretty good for a Call of Duty game. There was clear attention to detail in that Piccadilly Circus level; I noticed that they put a chemist with a similar logo right where the Boots is. Toning down the scale of the disaster so it isn't "world-ending" is probably a sensible choice.