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Endurance Run

Endurance Run: Persona 4 - Part 120

Despite the rainbows, this dungeon is not a happy place to be.

Vinny and Jeff sit down and take a crack at the latest game in the Shin Megami Tensei series. Will they make it through the entire game?

Jul. 31 2009

Cast: Jeff, Vinny

Posted by: Drew

243 Comments

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Nanako's dungeon is really interesting. Can't wait to see more!

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I hope they put Chie back in, I thought Naoto was awful.

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@Themanohall said:
" I hope they put Chie back in, I thought Naoto was awful. "
I thought Naoto was bad ass! I still love Chie, but Naoto was awesome.
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@DanielJW: i agree that Naoto is awesome!
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OK, so on one hand we got Naoto, who has a gun, which is a plus, and on the other hand, we got Chie, who likes steak.....damn it this is hard....

eh, who am i kidding, id go with Chie, you just cant beat the classics.
On the other hand, you could try taking yosuke out in favor of an all girl lineup like you hinted at a couple of episodes ago, it'd be persona 4s answer to Charlie's Angels!....get it? cause he's CHARLIE Tunoku?....man, i sicken me.... 
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@DanielJW:@DanielJW said:
" @Themanohall said:
" I hope they put Chie back in, I thought Naoto was awful. "
I thought Naoto was bad ass! I still love Chie, but Naoto was awesome.
"
I don't know, them being the lightning AND ice guy is kind of uneasing. Also, Naoto didn't seem too good physically (probably just because they need a new weapon, but whatever), and all of her stuff cost a ton to cost.

I think they should just stick with the original lineup. Why fix what isn't broke?
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Naoto's abilities are more suited for handling dungeons.
Not exactly useful when going for bosses.

Probably better off with Chie.
Y'know, so as to not die.

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Naoto is good for going up the floors, shitty for boss fights.

When chie learns gods hand, she is super powerful.

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@DanielJW: You should play the game first before watching this. Ah..too late, you've already seen pretty much all of it.
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man, this level is heartbreaking. Say without spoiling anything, if they get this level done with quickly does that mean the game will end quicker? because I want as much endurance run as possible.

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I like how Naoto goes gangsta grip when she shoots her card.

awwwww....poor Nanako.

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Naoto needs a desert eagle lol

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65 minutes? You are spoiling us.

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Remember, Remember the 3RD OF DECEMBER!!!!!

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@TheDoorman said:
"

Naoto needs a desert eagle lol

"
Golden one!
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Actually Naoto should replace Yukiko, the MC gets alot more power fire attcks than naything else and can heal better.

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Keep Chie in the team!

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Haven't finished the video but if you need money to pay fox, go through Naoto's dungeon and get her weapon, I'm sure you'll make over 30k on your way down.

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Edited By yyZiggurat

We're getting near the end aren't we?  Is it too late to start placing bet on which episode the Endurance Run will end on?  I think they'll finish before 150.

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Wow, you really didnt get very far in this episode despite it being over 60 minutes....but hey, you still have a ton of days left so, no biggie.

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this dungeon reminds me of the beginning of the game when they fight the mist

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Good thing they almost never use Tam Lin because he's completely worthless now.

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Isn't Tam Lin from Devil Summoner? I seem to remember her being in the quick look.

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@Jambones said:
" Isn't Tam Lin from Devil Summoner? I seem to remember her being in the quick look. "
Yeah, she was there, but i think that all SMT games have the same personae/demons.
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Tam Lin has a lot of STR you should have replaced auto-maraku or ziodyne for that skill, Deathbound could have hit very hard with power charge =(

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You guys should leave Tam Lin in at the beginning of battle to get the Auto-Maraku which will bring everyone's damage down 40% for the first three rounds. When you know weaknesses already, most battles aren't going to last more than 3 rounds anyway. You'll save a ton of SP this way. You can switch to your invigorate guy afterward. Tam Lin is one of your most useful Peronae right now, but you don't seem to realize what he can do for you.

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well, so far im geussing they'll get the bad ending caususe they are going with the 1st-time player "kill all you see" style... and we all know what happens if you try to kill everyone. EVERYONE

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@TDot said:
" man, this level is heartbreaking. Say without spoiling anything, if they get this level done with quickly does that mean the game will end quicker? because I want as much endurance run as possible. "
nope
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@CaptainObvious said:
"@Jambones said:
" Isn't Tam Lin from Devil Summoner? I seem to remember her being in the quick look. "
Yeah, she was there, but i think that all SMT games have the same personae/demons.
"

Yes, all SMT games share the same type of "monsters".  In Persona they are called "Personae" and in Devil Summoner they are called "Demons", I believe.
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@shanchett99 said:
"well, so far im geussing they'll get the bad ending caususe they are going with the 1st-time player "kill all you see" style... and we all know what happens if you try to kill everyone. EVERYONE "

Look, they will seek help.  My guess is that they want the Endurance Run to go for as long as possible at this point and get everything out of the game, so they'll either ask the users or Jeff will look at the non-spoilerish guide for getting the True Ending that Hailinel posted on Giant Bomb.
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In my opinion, you could swap Chie for Teddie and Yukiko for Naoto. Chie's ice has gotten super weak, and you have fire/healing covered on Charlie. Of course, you'd have to level Teddie up some first. Humm.

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@FluxWaveZ said:
" @CaptainObvious said:
"@Jambones said:
" Isn't Tam Lin from Devil Summoner? I seem to remember her being in the quick look. "
Yeah, she was there, but i think that all SMT games have the same personae/demons.
"
Yes, all SMT games share the same type of "monsters".  In Persona they are called "Personae" and in Devil Summoner they are called "Demons", I believe. "
Cheers. Not familiar with the SMT series.
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The only thing which ever annoyed me about the Endurance run is the random shouts from vinny and jeff, going from talking to shouting

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Ouch.  You guys should probably remake your Tam Lin seeing as how you got rid of both Tempest Slash and Deathbound but kept Power Charge.  He's not that useful as a lightning guy with his low magic. 

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it sucks that chie sucks now. :(

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@kerikxi said:
"In my opinion, you could swap Chie for Teddie and Yukiko for Naoto. Chie's ice has gotten super weak, and you have fire/healing covered on Charlie. Of course, you'd have to level Teddie up some first. Humm."

Keep Yukiko.  Her Fire is really effective (Agidyne + High magic stat.) and she works as a healer herself.  I say get rid of Chie and put in Teddie so you can have 2 healers that are both great on the offensive magic.  Teddie's great for buffs as well so that helps too.
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Damn, watching you guys screw over Tam Lin like you screwed over Chie was painful.

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I love how whenever Jeff sees a new enemy he automatically goes, "Aw Jeez"

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Guys, remember that if you need SP, but don't want to pay Fox, you could always go to easier dungeons with an Invigorate persona and guard, until you're back up.

Also, when you get the chance, fuse Alice, who has all sorts of Mudos!

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@watertails said:
"Guys, remember that if you need SP, but don't want to pay Fox, you could always go to easier dungeons with an Invigorate persona and guard, until you're back up."

Charlie's not the important one who needs SP healing, the others like Yosuke do too.  They could always use soul items instead of paying Fox.
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@FluxWaveZ: Well, they could always give Brosuke the Mage's Mark, if he needed SP.
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Hahaha, man you guys are so silly! Tam Lin has all that Strength and you get rid of both his physical attacks but then leave Power Charge, which only effects physical. But whatevs, not a big deal or anything. Just a silly thing to do.

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@watertails: There's that, but there was also Yukiko.  And there's no harm in going to the next day, they just shouldn't slack off at this point.  There should be NO S. Linking with people before you save Nanako.
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Nothing stops the Endurance Run....
Can't wait for Monday.

<-- I got bored when the net went down yesterday.
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DO NOT REGISTER TAM LIN!  Fuse this one and pull the old one out.
If you want to replace Chie with Teddie go through the secret lab with him first to get some more skills.
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Maybe you guys should hop out of the TV some day and use all those new materials to buy some weapons / armor that could improve the stats a LOT.

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@endaround said:
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DO NOT REGISTER TAM LIN!  Fuse this one and pull the old one out.
"

QFT
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@neon123 said:
"Maybe you guys should hop out of the TV some day and use all those new materials to buy some weapons / armor that could improve the stats a LOT."

Weapons and armor don't improve much.  A weapon with a 100+ atk stat will only improve the actual damage by 15% or so.  They should still sell their materials the next time they go see the weapon store owner to get some Yen.
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Heh, you guys got jumped a lot this episode. But hey, it's getting near the end of the game so all the monsters are out for blood. Stay tough.

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I used Tam Lin as my Main persona, since I fused over Invigorate 2 on it. I was "the Lightning guy" and switched out for a Light / Dark when needed.
Auto-Maraku is great. It gives a defense boost to your whole party for 3 turns, and that's enough to finish a random battle and minimize casualties when you're still figuring out the enemies weakness.

Some slight tips for this dungeon:
- I didn't find the Miniboss to dangerous personally. It's not week or strong to anything, so just hit it with everything you got.
- On the later levels you'll fight a white Intrepid Knight. It's week to Lightning, but Lightning will to very pittiful damage for whatever reason. It's also Strong to Physical and immune to instant death spells and Dizzy. He's a real pain. The only thing you can really do to him is hit it with non-phys and non-lightning stuff, or hit it with Lightning once, so that he'll get knocked down and then keep hitting him with other things while he's down. (Knocked down people can't dodge and take more damage). All Out Attacks don't work too well.
- This place has 10 levels (the boss is on the 10th). I look forward to your commentary when you get there ;]

EDIT: Luxury Hand is Null to everything that's not Almighty! You have to kill him with Megidola-ish spells, or hope to dodge his attack so he knocks himself down :/
And to kind of put this into perspective I was 67 when I finished the dungeon, and about 61 when I started it.