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Endurance Run

Endurance Run: Shenmue - Part 13

Your father's sword. This is the weapon of a true sailor. Not as clumsy or random as a QTE.

Vinny and Jeff sit down and take a crack at the latest game in the Shin Megami Tensei series. Will they make it through the entire game?

Sep. 20 2016

Cast: Vinny, Alex, Dan

Posted by: Vinny

In This Episode:

Shenmue

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@peteycoco: Yup, that's still a thing with joysticks, basically anything that's analog.

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Short :(.......... ! (saving it for tonight. )

This has been so inspiring, I've also started watching the Deadly Premonition ER. I remember now how Vinny developed his patience by this game. Who the hell thought of the wall crawler ladies? One good use for the shottie, though.

EDIT- Okay, I see why it is short.

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@gregalor said:
@nagafen said:

When is something going to happen? This game sucks and this isn't even fun to watch.

You can dislike it, but saying that nothing has happened is factually untrue. That's like reading half a novel and saying that nothing happened, just because you didn't like it. If none of this is fun for you to watch, I'm not sure why you're putting yourself through it.

Please explain what has happened in this game to advance the plot. Hearing that they are halfway through with the game having resolved literally none of its plotlines is insane to me.

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Good to see you guys still find things to complain about in the comments. Keep it up, community, you're super amazing.

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Am i the only one that likes Ace Ventura: When Nature Calls? I've seen both movies and i find the second one has more memorable gags. It happens to be on TV a lot and i still find it enjoyable.

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Murder She Wrote is a good time. I also enjoy saying murder very dramatically. Muuuuhhhrder!!.., she wrote.

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@shaunk: So we find out that Ryo's dad has a past in China that's mysterious/questionable. We find a SECRET ROOM in dad's dojo with some foreshadowing pointing to this (most of them not shown in this video). We find a literally magic artifact that, if paired with its counterpart, will apparently endow you with unstoppable power. We have Ryo being tailed by a weird guy who works under Lan Di.

But okay, nothing at all has happened.

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@hoptimus: Good to see that people who have contributed literally NO discussion are still popping in to complain about people discussing this series, and then disappearing.

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@nagafen said:

When is something going to happen? This game sucks and this isn't even fun to watch.

if you're expecting anything to happen, keep in mind they're just now, 16 years later, making shenmue 3, and ryo's still on the hunt for lan di.

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@nagafen said:

When is something going to happen? This game sucks and this isn't even fun to watch.

if you're expecting anything to happen, keep in mind they're just now, 16 years later, making shenmue 3, and ryo's still on the hunt for lan di.

Lol, really?! SPOILERS

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maybe I missed it but why is the game called "Shenmue"

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@gregalor: Weird, maybe that's an indicator that people who normally just watch and enjoy GB content are seeing a lot of hate or just negative attitudes towards the Duders and are deciding to speak out about it ;)

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I've always felt The Truman Show is fantastic but it's from so many different places. Jim Carrey is so good in that movie, but the script, direction, music, and cast are just dang stellar.

I'm not a fan of his movies, in actual life on shows and documentaries he's wayyyy off the reservation and unthinkably weird.

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Shenmue - my ears are bleeding! Best dubbing ever.

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I think i have also seen most episodes of Murder, She Wrote. My mom was and still is a huge fan. Going to disagree of this sentiment about it being good. It is dumb and the premise constantly causes trouble. Some of the ways they contrive to explain Lansbury's involvement in the investigation are very silly, and not in the wink and nod funny kind of way. Also she's an old woman and routinely gets caught at gunpoint by bad guys only to have one of the actual police or her male friends appear out of nowhere to save her.

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@paulunga: I mean, it probably would have stopped confusion if the game ever showed the other side of the mirror; but all I've ever seen in the game when the mirrors are on screen is the side with the design, and not the actual mirror side. Somehow no one ever seems to manage to turn them over. And it's not like the game can't render a mirror.

Also I was more of a Magnum P.I. fan myself, rather than Murder She Wrote.

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@kasaioni: I suspect a different word is used in Japanese to make it clear that it's not a modern mirror. In English, these artifacts really are just called mirrors, but I wouldn't call that common knowledge. I've always envisioned a museum exhibit of mirrors and the confused people walking out. Heavy restrictions around the localization may have made clarification impossible. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bronze_mirror

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how are they ever going to finish this game I love it tho lol

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If they could tone down the ADD these would go much smoother.

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@peteycoco said:

@alistercat: I think you can still screw up syncing a wireless controller today if you touch it when it initializes.

Yep, pretty sure I've had to reset my WiiU pro controller a couple times because I had something pressed while I turned it on.

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@gregalor: The Japanese word used is "Kagami" (鏡), which is just the word for mirror.

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@kasaioni: Yes, but the thing is they obviously don't know much about Asian culture, so why even question it being a mirror? Just because neither group has ever seen such a thing? I simply assumed it was some ancient Japanese kind of mirror the first time I played this game when I was 14.

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@kukamunga: They explore that a little bit towards the end of Shenmue II. It's not super heavy spoilers but I also don't really wanna explain it in case the duders ever play that game.

As for the Phoenix Mirror, when you see the other side of the object you'll see that it does have a reflective coating (not fully, like a beauty mirror though). But more than that, there's... well, again, I don't want to spoil anything. But there's a reason why it's called what it's called. Shenmue II only covers up to chapter 6 of a 16 part story so we don't have all the answers yet, either.

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Also, just a fun fact, since somebody mentioned that the game can obviously do reflections; the reflections that you see in the in-game mirrors aren't actually "reflections." They are completely separate, fully rendered model doubles of everything happening in that part and just mirroring the movements of the "real" models :)

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I learned the word 'virgin' from Monster Squad! And nards.

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@jedted said:

Am i the only one that likes Ace Ventura: When Nature Calls? I've seen both movies and i find the second one has more memorable gags. It happens to be on TV a lot and i still find it enjoyable.

As a kid I saw when nature calls many times before ever seeing pet detective, so I always enjoyed it more as my first Ace Ventura movie. I haven't seen either in many years, but I bet I would still find parts funny. Maybe not as much as when I was a kid

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@dudelongcouch: Yes, I guessed as much. That's how I understand most pre-HD era video games to do reflections. I don't know if reflections are generally done any differently these days.

@paulunga I just find it strange the so far the game has managed to not show the other side of these mirrors once. Although if these mirrors are supposed to function like this one, then maybe the game is saving a scene for the actual mirror parts of these mirrors for some later revelation (like if Ryo shines the mirror just right, he's going to find a secret new phone number to call).

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Spiderman-era Tobey Maguire as Ryo.

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Mistakenly posted this in the wrong episode.

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Had to post this because of the Sandler talk. The Al Pacino stuff is in here as well and it's crazy as shit.

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Everyone mentions the Rhino scene, but the best joke in Ace Ventura 2 is the Slinky scene.

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Master Chen just chillin at home watching Murder She Wrote lol! Shenmue is the best.

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Dunno if anyone mentioned it yet but Vinny might be thinking of Kiss Kiss Bang Bang.

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Death Becomes Her? Now that's a deep cut.

edit... Also, Dumb and Dumber is one of my all-time favourite comedies, but it kind of doesn't hold up. So much of that movie was about defying expectations, and audiences back then had so much less exposure to that kind of comedy. I cannot overstate, if you were in a movie theatre in 1994 as I was, the ending to that movie was the blindsight of the century. You could not fathom that they went there.

I suspect that someone watching it nowadays would just find it predictable, and maybe even a bit quaint.

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Come on guys. Adam Sandler as Tom, obviously!

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I really don't care for their taste in movies. Eternal Sunshine was boring, but at least I was able to watch the whole thing. Punch Drunk Love was so boring I had to turn it off 2/3rds the way through. Also, every time Ace Ventura is mentioned on this site none of them mention how horribly the transphobic ending has aged.

Dumb and Dumber is an all-time classic of comedy. It's still great today. That sequel they recently did not so much.

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@jedted said:

Am i the only one that likes Ace Ventura: When Nature Calls? I've seen both movies and i find the second one has more memorable gags. It happens to be on TV a lot and i still find it enjoyable.

I haven't watched it since I was a kid but, I remember liking it a lot more than the first. There's still 3 or 4 gags from it that I remember very fondly. Oddly, none of them are the rhino birth part. When I was a kid a I always thought that part was too gross.

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Another great episode. The laughs really made my day!

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I use to hate Murder She Wrote, having never seen an episode, because when it came on I'd be pissed it wasn't Matlock.

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@endlessmike: As soon as Vinny said "heavier Val Kilmer," with the caliber of movies they were mentioning, I mantra-repeated "Kiss Kiss Bang Bang" till the episode was over.

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Some eagles are known to scavenge or "steal."

Bald eagles, for example, are well known for taking carrion and literally stealing fish from fishermen.

Stellar's sea eagles, which are familiar in Japan, have been documented violently fighting conspecific eagles to take their food.

Nature isn't noble. It just is.

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there is no secret candle level

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In this episode, they search a basement.

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The Musou games are better than ever in 2021!

How times have changed.