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Alex takes the wheel and drives us on a tour of what's new in Codemasters' latest racer.
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Oct. 14 2019
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Oops I GRID It Again
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I haven't watched the Quicklook yet but I played about 2 hours of this, got bored and uninstalled the game.
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That Vinny Sound board was pretty good in the beginning there.
So let me get this straight we have Grid, Grid 2, Grid Autosport and now Grid yep this makes perfect sense.
I want to be the inevitable comment - that car is smaller because its a Formula 1000 car which is different to F1. Also this game seems like it has the exact same lacking that extra something problem Grid Autosport had.
Also street racing circuits like that are normal, Formula e basically only uses street circuits and there is a formula e race in NYC (but its next to a cruise terminal, not proper streets i think)
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@eccentrix: I am both appalled and aroused.
OG Grid is my favourite racing game, not really seeing anything here that that game didn't already do (and better it seems)
@scylo: Yeah, Vinny and Alex should check out some videos of street circuits around the world. Some of them look absolutely sick. Like, the cars are literally driving by cafés and shit within a few feet sometimes.
On an unrelated note: many of these quick looks talk about how their save didn't carry over. I frequently go to my friends house and cloud saves on our Xboxes work flawlessly. I don't even think about it. It just works. Are cloud saves on other platforms that unreliable??
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@vinny Yep, people race Minis. In fact, I used to race Minis!
In the 60s they were practically untouchable in the Monte Carlo rally.
@vinny@alex Street circuits are on closed-off public roads. One of the most famous races in the world, the Monaco Grand Prix, is on the streets of Monte Carlo:
Based on the title alone, I thought they ported Grid to Switch
best driving game of this generation, GTA 5.
I see Alex comes from the Pastor Maldonado / Daniil "Torpedo" Kvyat school of racing excellence.
It's nice to have someone besides Jeff review a racing game. Though I really enjoy Jeff's Quick Looks his preference for driving model sits at a very particular point along the spectrum from Cruisin' USA (arcade) to iRacing (simulation), and it seems almost no game other than Forza is in that very narrow band of acceptable. It's not a criticism of him as everyone has their preference, it just doesn't align with mine so I don't get a whole lot from just one person's impression (my preferences are closer to Rob Zacny's). Having Alex mix things up adds a nice bit of nuance to the site's overall coverage even if he's not at Drew levels of expertise.
This game seems aimed at the mainstream who aren't particularly deep into any style of racing and want to dip their toe into a bunch of disciplines. For that kind of jack-of-all trades game it really needs to have a ton of tracks and cars in the old Gran Turismo model.
The guys should take a look at the GRID Autosport port that just came out on Switch. Best portable racer on the market today.
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Easy to forget the GRID introduced the rewind feature, that is now pretty much ubiquitous in racing games.
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You mean to tell me they make WRXs in colors other than blue?
I think a few years ago they closed off part of downtown San Jose for some racing.
My, how is it in equal measure hilarious and maddening the way they keep calling what is in no ways F1 as "F1." Imagine someone playing a basketball video game, and consistently referring to it as baseball. F1000 and F1 don't have a whole lot to do with each other. :)
Though I'm curious why they slapped Fernando Alonso's name there.
@bruno0091: Or the fact that even though Forza copied that mechanic as early as Forza 3 (maybe 4?) and still, to this day, hasn't gotten it right in the slightest. That's a high bar of incompetence.
Grid 1 is still one of the best sim-cade racer ever made. The AI, and the dynamic crashes were (still are) leagues above the competition. This reboot obviously tries to recapture that spirit (the other 2 grid weren't very good, were way more arcadey, and were lacking fundamentals e.g. cockpit view), but so far (about half way through the career) I'm not sure they managed to do so. Other than the scripted crash during the tutorial, the AI has been pretty average.
@luciddreams117: Their problems sound like a layer 8 issue to be honest. I've never had any cloud save issues on either platforms. They have so many saves, and so many accounts that they probably just get mixed up, which is understandable.
I can confirm for Vinny that they do indeed shut down and block of road in a city. In Toronto every year, the Honda Indy is in town and for a weekend they close off certain roads.
I'm interested but I'll wait for a sale. 60 lookin too thicc for me.
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"You know me, I like the butt of a car...like to stare at it." ~ Alex Navarro, 2019
@vinny They make a street course in Brooklyn for Formula E racing every year now. It's in a more industrial area than other street races I would say, but you should totally check it out. You can search for "New York City ePrix" for some videos and stuff.
grid is good
If y'all like cars watch HYPERDRIVE on Netflix because its gymkhana if you took it to the extreme, and its heart warming.
They close a good chunk of streets in Long Beach, California for the Long Beach Grand Prix every year. That track is in one of the Forzas, too.
This looks like something I'll have a lot of fun with after a good sale.
@steveurkel: I would also recommend Netflix's Drive to Survive series if anyone is looking for an on-ramp to Formula 1 (not Formula 1000 as shown in this game which I have no idea what that is).
@scylo: Are there any good documentaries you would suggest on street racing circuits? I knew they existed, but just the logistics of basically shutting down a city coupled with the inherent difficulty for the racers to practice kind of boggles my mind.
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Besides the factual errors others pointed out... the TOCA franchise was very much not about multiple disciplines, considering that TOCA is literally short for TOuring CArs and a specific licensed organization. They did start going in that direction pretty fast, though. I wanna say TOCA 2 already threw in some non-Touring Cars events. The Grid name change is how they made that shift officially, though.
The differentiator for the franchise was always the "it's the career of a single pilot end to end". The first TOCA, which is still my favourite, had a bunch of management sim-ish stuff in it, with team changes, sponsorships and that sort of thing. It also had a full blown story mode with cutscenes and a named cast of characters. That's why they're still doing teammates and rivalries with characters.
Also, TOCA kinda came out after the Colin McRae games went away. It's wedged in there between the late McRae games nobody cared about and the reboot as Dirt that brought it back to the relative mainstream.
Oh, and @player242, the Alonso thing is a sponsorship deal. If you go watch the marketing for this game, Alonso is out there racing games journos and giving interviews. Guess he doesn't have anything better to do these days, and that Dakar run ain't gonna finance itself.
To address the stuff they mention in the thing directly, here's crazy future electric cars that sound and look like Wipeout cars driving through New York.
The vast majority of Forumla E races are urban circuits, this is not that rare.
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I continue to be bummed out about the lack of VR support in most of the recent Codemasters games, considering Dirt Rally VR in 2016 was the game that sold me on VR racing to begin with.
@noelveiga: Damn, somehow they managed to make a street circuit in New York that's even more anemic than Sochi.Personally, I'm well aware of Formula E and watch F1 (and listen to Shift+F1 sometimes). I was just kinda stunned that Vinny and Alex didn't know about Monaco or didn't know that it's a street circuit.
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It was very enlightening hearing Vinny's questions about racing. His curiosity is such a joy. I was surprised to hear how they both seemed surprised about closing roads for temporary street circuit though. Here in London it's not that uncommon to have parts of the city blocked off to create safe routes for races of many disciplines: car races, running marathons, cycling events. Are other types of races (i.e. marathons, cycling) also a rarity in America?
@briarpack: Oh, I assumed you knew, for sure. It's just that you tagged the guys so it felt reasonable to thread it together in case they're curious :)
And yeah, man, that NY track is fairly bland. But hey, I get it, they don't have all the money in the world and they want to be able to say they have a race in New York, so driving through warehouses is still better than nothing, I suppose.
Honestly, urban tracks make for good TV flybys but kinda suck otherwise. Most Formula E races this year had multiple safety cars and every time anybody even looks at a wall funny half the racers pile up in a rush hour gridlock. I get that it's part of their identity, but they had a couple wider tracks this year and it's clearly so much better.
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It clearly says F1000 not F1. That is why the cars are smaller. And you don't need to be an F1 guy to know that because I am not. I just read the text on the screen.
Are any of the racer names Women... because if not FUCK this sexist game
I cant believe we're doing this shit in 2019
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Are any of the racer names Women... because if not FUCK this sexist game
I saw the AI driver names Freya, Katja and Marlena at least. Wish Alex would've shown us the player customization though, would've been interesting to see if there were any options regarding that in there.
I'm a huge fan of the grid series and I'd probably describe the games as being like a burger. There isn't much anything special like a burger in the sense that there's nothing really unique about a burger while other options on the menu can obviously be more appealing with more unique flavors. Sometimes though, a well rounded tasty burger can be pretty good. But it is also completely understandable not wanting to pay the same price for one or wanting yet another burger when other options can be more appealing. It is what it is, it's good at it, there's absolutely nothing special about it. It's a decent learning tool graduating from Gran Turismo to put your driving lessons into play in a more arcade based game if that's the way you want to go. Good series for beginners to learn racing games without being gimmicky.
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