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Mass Alex

Mass Alex: Mass Effect 2 - Part 18

It's time to go back Jack, do it again. Will Shep Shep gain the loyalty of all of her crew or will this mission tear things apart?

There are billions of stories in the universe, so why not play the best one?

May. 28 2019

Cast: Vinny, Alex

Posted by: Vinny

In This Episode:

Mass Effect 2

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THE MOMENT OF TRUTH! THIS IS THE TRUE TEST OF ALEX'S NEGOTIATION SKILLS

I mean if he's maxed out Paragon already he is basically on track for a 100% ending for Mass Effect 2 with flying colours

My favorite part about Mordin's character design is that at some point their document was distinctly "Old salarian Dirty Harry scientist", which is a hell of a word salad to use

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Sleeping with Fishes

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Part 17-2?

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That is not what ben wa balls are.

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If you had been nice and let Kelly call you shepherd instead of commander in your first conversation she would have fed your fish Alex. They're dead because of you ?

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rip those ever loyal fish

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@evilmonkeyslayer said:

Part 17-2?

Same thing happened with Crime Crew yesterday.. now I'm wondering if it's a bug in the site or CMS. Weird coincidence otherwise.

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I've played through ME2 at least half a dozen times and never once had my fish survive. RIP

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Look, everyone knew going in this was a suicide mission.

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i’m preeeetty sure that you still have an upgrade to get from Grunt if that dialogue option is still there.

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Man the character stuff with your crew is SO GOOD in this game. And so bad in 3 :(

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Who the fuck shot that Mr Burns?

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I still love that they think the Reaper IFF is the last mission.

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@mightycarrion: The Reaper IFF is the point of no return mission. Doing it locks the player into a certain course of action to avoid something bad happening.

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Man the character stuff with your crew is SO GOOD in this game. And so bad in 3 :(

That's because Mass Effect 3 was rushed out 2 years after the 2nd game and had its ending changed last minute after it leaked. If that game had another 8-12 months of development, it would have been great. But for the last Mass Effect game, it has a couple of good moments.

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IIRC can't you over feed the fish? Maybe twice per episode was too much.

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MY FISH!

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Whoa whoa whoa wait. Did Vinny and Alex just say they use Ben-Wa balls to relax stress? Ide like to picture Abby in the studio laughing her ever-loving ass off. For all the things Dan has been earnestly wrong about, Alex and Vinny just topped them all in 3 swift sentences.

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They couldn't have started this episode ANY BETTER. (I had to check the end before a full play because of the comments.)

(Edit 1) Kasumi: I THINK YOU AND GARRUS SHOULD FUCK

(Edit 2) In a previous conversation, Mordin mentioned the ways he wanted to spend his last decade. So, @alex was right in saying that he's likely 30 or so.

(Edit 3) @alex can't be too upset with his fish dying, seeing as how he didn't take the opportunity to be friendly enough with Kelly to where she'll feed your fish for you. It's kinda romancey, but she doesn't count as one of the people you love about with like Jacob, Garrus, or Thane. (A reddit thread I found in confirming what I could remember called her a 'slam-piece'. Kinda rude, but yeah?)

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Lex was too busy lusting after Garrus that he didn’t think to seduce Chambers and keep his fish fed ??

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Since I had a free copy of ME:2 years ago and had never tried it, i played it after watching the first episode. And I remember someone commenting on Ashley and the aquarium. It goes to show, building that relationship even if casual can save you the hassle of feeding the fish

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Mordin doing research on Turian/human fucking, offering Shepard porn, "Don't ingest."

This game is so great.

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I like when you shoot your shot with Samara she gives you an “If I was 200 years younger I’d throw you around the floor but I’m over sex now” it’s such a little bug quality line that gives you so much about the character

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Alex, I had the same trouble in that crashing ship mission as you.

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RIP fish, weren't fed for 3 missions and died.

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@threeoct: I you choose to "keep it professional" at the very beginning nothing happens with Chambers at all. She's completely locked out.

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@roytheone said:

Man the character stuff with your crew is SO GOOD in this game. And so bad in 3 :(

That's because Mass Effect 3 was rushed out 2 years after the 2nd game and had its ending changed last minute after it leaked. If that game had another 8-12 months of development, it would have been great. But for the last Mass Effect game, it has a couple of good moments.

absolutely. 3 has legitimately great character moments despite its manifold issues.

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@bludgeonparagon: Yep, he should get 100% but I wish Alex would have been left to his own devices more. Part of the fun was living with mistakes and seeing how it all played out but he has been pushed into not making them even if the reasons have not been explained. I think it would have been far more interesting to see Alex playing through the series instead of him playing through a perfect run of the series. Either way, still enjoy it and looking forward to the rest.

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Many of those unexplored systems have small side quests (like the crashing ship).

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@matiaz_tapia: Yeah, when Alex didn't even go through with the part where Shep Shep could call her Kelly instead of Chambers, I knew that option was over.

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I'm on mobile so I can't tag spoilers, but is that smuggled cargo what I'm thinking it is? That little puzzle piece Alex seems to be missing.

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I think Alex meant to say baoding balls...

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While not in my Top-5, I still like Jack as a character. All teh characters have a thematic through line of "do the end justifies the means?"

Each character has story that touches upon either their own, their parents of their children's actions that are criminals at best or horrific at worst. And, of course these stories all highlight Shepards own questions about if working for Cerberus is a "end justifies the means' question.

But, why I like Jack is that she in one of the few where the 'means' are extremely horrific. Her crimes include piracy, kidnapping, and murder. She was abused, but most of what she does with her life is wholesale slaughter of mostly innocent people just to "off" a few Cerberus personal. I think she is one of the more extreme examples of someone Shepard can choose to save, yet who does needed to be in a prison or dead at the end of the mission. [She is the Maggott (Telly Savalas) characters of Shepherds "Dirty Dozen mission, right?"]

I think a more satisfying end for her would have been death. The sort of redemption arc they can have for her in the next game is rather shallow. I would have paid good money if at the ending credits a "Renegade" choice popped up. So, if Jack survived to get the "All Survivors Award" Shepherd can STILL just blows her head off. JMO

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@auspexao said:

@mightycarrion: The Reaper IFF is the point of no return mission. Doing it locks the player into a certain course of action to avoid something bad happening.

Eh, the bad stuff isn't so bad in the grand scheme of things

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Alex failed the most important loyalty mission of all: RIP fish. :(

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I knew it was just a matter of time before those fish died. I've played through ME2 loads of times and I don't think they ever survived.

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Are they purposely skipping over EDI?

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I recently played through Mass Effect 2 and I killed so many fish in that play through, thankfully I unknowingly did what ever you had to do to get Kelly to feed your fish for you and I never lost another fish.

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Are they purposely skipping over EDI?

EDI has nothing until the Collector attack on the normandy

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Press F to pay your respects to the fish

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Might be worth checking in on EDI next to Joker and seeing if she has any new dialogue. I know the last few times didn't have anything but she occasionally has some good stuff that is worth hearing, and I think she has some more dialogue after the coming mission.

Also, RIP the fish. The episodic format of the series was all that kept them alive. I remember mine dying right away every time I bought them :(

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alex, buddy...your fish gotta go on an adventure...like a vacation. yeah...they're going on a vacation

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@cormacobrien: yeahhhhh.....ben wa balls are something else entirely. I mean, he could own some, but they'd be quite useless to him.

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Tali and Thane have alternate dlc outfits and you haven't checked any of your party's squad pages.

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I forgot about Jackie LaForge...

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Oh dear :( RIP Fishies :(

Also Ben Wa Balls (Wikipedia but NSFW) aren't for rolling around in your hands....

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going into this episode i was like "man this is probably the longest anyone has ever kept their fish alive in mass effect 2"

rip ;__;7