Quick Look: Sol: Exodus

@Jedted said:

"Issac Newton is the deadliest son of bitch in space!"

If you've played ME2 you should know that quote.

That quote in ME2 was regarding railguns firing projectiles 1.3% of the speed of light though (around 3000km/s), which obviously causes ridiculous kinetic energy to be released when they hit something (also, at those speeds I don't think just Newtonian physics, as per ME2, would be enough, wouldn't relativity have to be taken into account there?). The depiction in SOL: Exodus (and Battlestar Galactica, which SOL was obviously inspired by) rather seems like something in the vein of current day automatic cannons, like the one in the A-10, which are fired at way below sub-light speeds. You couldn't really get much sense of scale in SOL, but considering how much you had to lead the target, the bullets probably weren't all that much faster than what we use today (the avenger rotary cannon apparently fires projectiles at 1km/s, without atmosphere/air drag to worry about I'm sure a space based autocannon could get them to much higher velocities, but probably not anywhere close to the velocity mentioned in ME2).

@Dahitman said:

What vinny was talking about:

(I'm sure everyone knows about this by now, the internet travels fast.)

Best random in-game quote I've ever heard. I wonder if they can top it in ME3.

Duders I got to tell you Vinny's comments are AMAZING when you're high. Like every one. (About 15 mins into the vid - it's felt like forever!) He's eternally on this wave length.

this looks really boring.

Looks cool. Still holding out hope for that Freespace Random PC Game.

Ruster Thrumble. Next name I'm using in every game ever.

Sigh why do these types of games completely ignore basic laws of physics concerning speed vs. acceleration mechanics when flying in space.

Completely breaks any sense of immersion immediately.

@Tennmuerti said:

Sigh why do these types of games completely ignore basic laws of physics concerning speed vs. acceleration mechanics when flying in space.

Completely breaks any sense of immersion immediately.

simple reason they're just games not simulations

@aspaceinvader said:

@Tennmuerti said:

Sigh why do these types of games completely ignore basic laws of physics concerning speed vs. acceleration mechanics when flying in space.

Completely breaks any sense of immersion immediately.

simple reason they're just games not simulations

It's not an issue of game vs. simulation. It's a question of basic logic.

Like making a racing game where cars have no inertia and can do a 90 degree turn on a dime. Or a flight game where the plane can flip a bitch and start instantly flying in the oposite direction.

@Tennmuerti said:

@aspaceinvader said:

@Tennmuerti said:

Sigh why do these types of games completely ignore basic laws of physics concerning speed vs. acceleration mechanics when flying in space.

Completely breaks any sense of immersion immediately.

simple reason they're just games not simulations

It's not an issue of game vs. simulation. It's a question of basic logic.

Like making a racing game where cars have no inertia and can do a 90 degree turn on a dime. Or a flight game where the plane can flip a bitch and start instantly flying in the oposite direction.

now those are the games i want to see! anti-flight sim 2012

Is there ever a mission objective you don't fail in this game?

@Tennmuerti said:

@aspaceinvader said:

@Tennmuerti said:

Sigh why do these types of games completely ignore basic laws of physics concerning speed vs. acceleration mechanics when flying in space.

Completely breaks any sense of immersion immediately.

simple reason they're just games not simulations

It's not an issue of game vs. simulation. It's a question of basic logic.

Like making a racing game where cars have no inertia and can do a 90 degree turn on a dime. Or a flight game where the plane can flip a bitch and start instantly flying in the oposite direction.

There's not supposed to be 100% logic when you're dealing with fictional space combat in the far future. Not sure what you're expecting. I own the game and its fun, which to me is what matters most.

2012.

SCUTTLE THE SHIP INTO THE FRIGATE.

err..... Vinny sounds like Vin Diesel !

We don't need more low budget games of this type. I wan't a triple A production!

Good QL anyway.

@gringbot said:

@Tennmuerti said:

@aspaceinvader said:

@Tennmuerti said:

Sigh why do these types of games completely ignore basic laws of physics concerning speed vs. acceleration mechanics when flying in space.

Completely breaks any sense of immersion immediately.

simple reason they're just games not simulations

It's not an issue of game vs. simulation. It's a question of basic logic.

Like making a racing game where cars have no inertia and can do a 90 degree turn on a dime. Or a flight game where the plane can flip a bitch and start instantly flying in the oposite direction.

There's not supposed to be 100% logic when you're dealing with fictional space combat in the far future. Not sure what you're expecting. I own the game and its fun, which to me is what matters most.

Actually, it's rare that they don't these days, SOL: Exodus kind of tries to do the "WW II dogfights in space" thing that Wing Commander and Star Wars did, but most space sims that have been released in the past decade (while few) are more of spiritual successors to the Elite series of games, and like that franchise did, use newtonian physics.

@outerabiz said:

@Tennmuerti said:

@aspaceinvader said:

@Tennmuerti said:

Sigh why do these types of games completely ignore basic laws of physics concerning speed vs. acceleration mechanics when flying in space.

Completely breaks any sense of immersion immediately.

simple reason they're just games not simulations

It's not an issue of game vs. simulation. It's a question of basic logic.

Like making a racing game where cars have no inertia and can do a 90 degree turn on a dime. Or a flight game where the plane can flip a bitch and start instantly flying in the oposite direction.

now those are the games i want to see! anti-flight sim 2012

Wasn't Crimson Skies total disregard for actual physics one of it's biggest selling points?

Wing Commander or Freespace mold?

They were completely different types of storytelling.

@nemt said:

Wing Commander or Freespace mold?

They were completely different types of storytelling.

Gameplay wise this is pretty close to Wing Commander, but no, not the story-telling. Wing Commander pretty much did the Bioware thing before Bioware was a thing, not sure Freespace is an appropriate comparison either, but I suppose SOL is closer to that, but even Freespace did have cutscenes and stuff, SOL pretty much tells all it's story as in-mission dialogue.

I thought of the same thing from Mass Effect 2 that Vinny mentioned 5 seconds before he said it. We are all on the same wavelength. Vinnylength.

@TonyBlue87 said:

Alright, so, Colony Wars 4 now, right? Someone get what's left of Psygnosis on the phone!

I was just thinking that. For some reason, those were the only space sim type games I got into.

@gringbot said:

@Tennmuerti said:

@aspaceinvader said:

@Tennmuerti said:

Sigh why do these types of games completely ignore basic laws of physics concerning speed vs. acceleration mechanics when flying in space.

Completely breaks any sense of immersion immediately.

simple reason they're just games not simulations

It's not an issue of game vs. simulation. It's a question of basic logic.

Like making a racing game where cars have no inertia and can do a 90 degree turn on a dime. Or a flight game where the plane can flip a bitch and start instantly flying in the oposite direction.

There's not supposed to be 100% logic when you're dealing with fictional space combat in the far future. Not sure what you're expecting. I own the game and its fun, which to me is what matters most.

I am not arguing someone elses like/dislike for the game. Simply stating what completely breaks it for me.

For me asking for actual speed and acceleration to behave according to standard laws of physics is like asking gravity to work. It's not a requirement of 100% logic it's a requirement of basic logic, like asking bullets to travel in the general direction you shot a gun and not do pirouettes. I wouldn't play a game where a plane flies like a helicopter or visa versa, same here.

@obcdexter said:

Dude, what's wrong with Vinny's voice? :D

Just a cold or the beginning of a ... transformation?

It's the beginning of his transformation to become a smooth-talking midnight-radio DJ.

Mad repetitive but at 10 bucks it seems like a deal.

God, colds really ARE the worst

For space sim stuff I just want to play Homeworld again.

Kinda wondering how Evochron Mercenary is, the other new space game on Steam. It looks really neat.

Was getting kind of frustrated with Dave as he kept saying he couldn't find the big ships - the radar clearly showed where they were in relation to him, and the red dots had arrows on them pointing up or down to let him know if they were above or below him in that direction.

Aside from that, good QL. The game itself looks mad tedious and plain, but oh well.

this game reminds me alot of Star voyager for the nes....just played that game a couple weeks back amazing memories.

I will vote for any candidate that will make a moon-state.

Please do a Quicklook of Evochron Mercenary, the other true space sim on Steam! This game is amazing and made by only one guy! It´s much more hardcore than this game will ever be!

Did Dave call air/space combat cat fighting? Now that would be a sight! :D

Duders I got to tell you Vinny's comments are AMAZING when you're high. Like every one. (About 15 mins into the vid - it's felt like forever!) He's eternally on this wave length.

This game need a 12 minute take off checklist, then it would be perfect.

RUSTER THRUMBLEEEE

Who would play this piece of shit? Before I would swear I would watch anything with Vinny and Dave, but that was before I saw this garbage.

WHOTHEFUCKARETHESEGUUUYS!!!!!!!????!?!?!??!?!?!

Sick Vinny does an excellent Voice Over.

Saw this on Steam today, looks pretty interesting.

Duders I got to tell you Vinny's comments are AMAZING when you're high. Like every one. (About 15 mins into the vid - it's felt like forever!) He's eternally on this wave length.

I would play a spin-off space dogfight game based in the Mass Effect scenario.

@Abendlaender said:

Still waiting for Freelancer 2.....*sigh*

Are you aware that a Freelancer 2 was in development for Xbox 360, at one point?

Who knows if it would've compared to Freelancer, but it dying along with Digital Anvil is a bummer, regardless.

If you're curious, here's some more info on the late Project Lonestar.

So I can relate to Vinny more: I am sceptic and a bit of an angry teddy bear when I am sick, and when I get congested I get a deep sexy voice... which makes me use it more... which makes me lose it. That is what I learned from this QL.

Hey system, Sol System.

Has anyone play Tachyon: The Fringe? Its the only space sime i have played before and thisg ame looks a lot like it.

/tachyon-the-fringe/61-16616/

@Xymox said:

One of these days, someone's gonna want to hire Vinny as a voice actor.

Are they gonna continuously give him a head cold? That's a brutal life, but what a gift for the world.

This looks kinda cool but a few less guys to kill would be nice, seems it could drag a little. Less is more.

Sick Vinny is almost as deep as Sexy Brad*.

*AKA normal Brad.