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Quick Look: Super Stardust Ultra

Not content with just being HD, Super Stardust goes ultra and Jeff and Brad try and find out what that means.

Sit back and enjoy as the Giant Bomb team takes an unedited look at the latest video games.

Feb. 11 2015

Cast: Jeff, Brad

Posted by: Jason

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Super Stardust Ultra

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The Amiga obviously couldn't compete with a lot of arcade games around the time, even as a kid, growing up relatively near some big arcades, I could appreciate that. The same can be said of most NES and Mega Drive versions of arcade games - the real thing was often better.

The Amiga's defining feature was that almost everything that came out elsewhere, especially in the early days, was way better on the Amiga. When I saw friends running stuff on their IBM compatible PCs, I just kinda felt sorry for them. That was before CD-ROM, when the PC really started to overtake in a big way, technologically and otherwise.

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Guys is it ok if i like both GW3 and super stardust or should i just go fling myself off a cliff right now

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I think people overestimate how much 4K content is out there right now. People think that because consumer camcorders can record in 4K it's a standard for production purposes, but even a lot of big budget movies now are mastered in 2K. The Hobbit is a good example - since they had to render 48 instead of 24 frames per second, the final digital file that got sent to movie theaters was in 2K (even though they filmed on RED cameras at 5K).

In fact, a lot of movie theaters still use 2K projectors - and 2K is only a slight bump in resolution from 1080p. I think it's unrealistic to assume that 4K will become a standard in just a few years when so much content is mastered at 2K (or lower). Traditional TV broadcasts are only 1080i or 720p, too, not even a full 1080p.

Anyway, this game looks alright.

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Yeah. I signed up for that Neil Young Pono thing too. I'll probably buy something eventually on it. Sigh.

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Oh, I feel like Neil Young did a drugs here and there...

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Geometry Wars 2 > Super Stardust HD (after all the additions especially) > Geometry Wars RE.

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Looking at in-PS4 captures uploaded to youtube, the HD download version of this is often worse (though it does double the framerate). Something has gone terribly wrong.

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GoldROCK is back!

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This game sure loves the Spider-Man font.

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I'd love to see an all-Amiga show of some kind.

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Yeah, my PS3 still works and is hooked up, so I think any hankering I have for Stardust is currently taken care of. Plus I spent way too long getting a bunch of pretty difficult trophies for the PS3 version to want to go through doing them all over again.

Having said that, maybe somewhere waaaay down the road (ie when it inevitably turns up on PS+) I may pick this up just to check out the differences.

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You probably already know about all these games, but if you ever fire up that Amiga for a stream, do check out Moonstone. That game had some nefarious jump-scares, but was still rad!

IK+ is cool too... Not many modern 3 player fighting games that are fighting games.

While Halloween is way off, I keep thinking about how cool it would be to see some sort of blind run of one of the Elvira games.

That's at least the ones I can think off that aren't just lesser versions of arcade games.

Man, I was so scared of those troll things in Moonstone when I was a kid, still played the hell out of that game though.

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On the subject of Neil Young, he had a dislike for digital from the very beginning of it's use in distribution of music to the point where some of his albums weren't released on CDs, including the seminal 1974 "On The Beach", until 2003 when he undertook a huge archival of his work on HDCDs.

I vaguely remember some statement he made where he accused CDs of missing 70% of his music or something and a lot of other artists from the 70s/80s made similar claims and I'm not going to argue against someone who sits in the actual recording studio and listens to the raw sound and say that the copies we got on disc are anything close.

In regards to his own online music distribution project "Pono", it really is something that needed to happen. iTunes is all well and good but you're still getting DRM encoded AACs with lossy compression. You could think of Pono as the gog to iTunes's Steam.

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Super Hexagon > Geometry Wars > Super Stardust

One of these things is not like the others!

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Resogun > Super Stardust HD >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Geometry Wars

On a first play session, Geometry Wars is shallow garbage. It feels like an old game and makes you kinda wonder why anyone still makes games like these. But it's when you get into the game, start to find the nuance, and get that moment where the controls "click" that it becomes amazing and endlessly replayable. On an older Bombcast, the staff said the same. Why they somehow don't believe any other dual-joystick shooter has the same ramp up period is beyond me. The ceiling on SSHD and Resogun is so much higher than that of Geometry Wars it's staggering.

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I cant wait till this is free on PS+

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Amiga stream would be fantastic!!! Play Silkworm!

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Amiga has a good version of Roadwar 2000 but I think Atari ST is the best one (ported by Westwood!)

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@beef_melody said:

While I have a soft spot for the Amiga, Jeff's right that those games mostly haven't aged too gracefully. LemonAmiga's Top 100 is a decent place to find those that have, though most ended up on the PC sooner or later (or started there).

That's a nice looking list oozing with nostalgia. Though it naturally has some omissions that I personally remember fondly along those listed, such as: Project-X, James Pond 2: Robocod, SWIV, (original) Alien Breed, Rainbow Islands and Rampart.

Haven't tried my hand at most of the games within nearly twenty years, but surely there would be some enjoyment to be had playing them (or watching them being played) even if only for a quick burst. With TAC-2 joysticks and a mouse that has the stiffest clicking buttons imaginable.

Good to see Perihelion on that list at least. It's a cool fucking game.

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I like how the lady says "activated" with completely wrong emphasis.

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I have been enjoying this release. I am glad that this came out as I did not like Geometry Wars 3. This, however, was exactly what I wanted.

@north6 I've been playing on a 51" screen and I disagree.

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@sammo21: Thanks, that is good news. Must just be this video stream.

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Goldrock confirmed!

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I think (I could be wrong) the reason Jeff is unable to appreciate the Amiga is he's unaware that the Amiga hardware is basically a SNES quality graphics + better sound that came out in 1985 (way ahead of its time).

Of course in In today's standards, without nostalgia, SNES games aren't interesting at all to someone never played SNES before. Which seems exactly the case with Jeff and the Amiga and it's now outdated 1985 graphics.

Again, to put that in perspective for people that never played Amiga, check out any video of Amiga games, and imagine they're actually running on NES (not SNES).

You'd then hopefully understand how remarkable the Amiga was when it came out, as the consoles of that time were all of a NES quality graphics.