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JeffJeff's Bizarre Adventure S02E24: Glad we stuffed this podcast with magazines

It's the season finale! We've made it to the last two episodes of Stardust Crusaders as Jotaro and DIO have their final face off. Where does JeffJeff's Bizarre Adventure go from here? [podcast covers anime episodes 47: "DIO's World, Part 3" and 48: "Long Journey Farewell, My Friends"]

Jeff Bakalar and friends dip into the bizarre world of JoJo's Bizarre Adventure!

Jun. 7 2023

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The intro edit was great

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I'm glad this bizarre adventure will keep on a-rolling. I'm always happy for an excuse to rewatch Bebop!

Since Lucy brought them up, I'll link to the Mother's Basement videos on the first four Jojo's openings (shout out to Plague for bringing them up in the comments on last week's episode):

Part 1 on Phantom Blood and Battle Tendency

Part 2 on Stardust Crusaders

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Rooooadd rolllla! Looking forward to the next season and the filler in between.

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I've always enjoyed the fight with DIO even though it doesn't hold up to scrutiny. Jotaro practically no-sells his way through the battle and it's filled with contrivances, but the time-stopping shenanigans are so much fun. It's iconic for reason.

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Request for the next in-person meet-up with Bakalar. Make him wear a Joutaro like suit and stuff it with magazines. Prove to him it can be done, Mythbusters style.

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CB is a good choice for a cleanser from JJBA's nonsense; probably the best choice.

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I just watched Cowboy Bebop again for the first time since it ran on Cartoon Network 20 years ago, it still holds up. I thought the live action one wasn't so bad, either. I think their version of Ed didn't look encouraging, not so sad we don't have to see another season.

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I was hoping for Chain Saw Man but I am not disappointed with what we actually got.

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They completely forgot about Polnareff in this episode (which is totally fair, he just stabs Dio before getting bodied immediately), and the neat part where Dio felt pain and illness as if he was having a normal human fever when his head got smashed up, which imo is a fun knocking off a pedestal moment.

Gonna be my first time ever watching Cowboy Bebop tho, never got around to it in my return to anime. I have a feeling I'll like it, but the mainstream appeal reputation it's gotten made me hesitate to give it a shot, dunno if anyone else has that about popular shows.

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I adore this fight in due to all the silliness of it. The knife throwing and road roller are so iconic.

This show doesn't even have rails to go off of anymore

In terms of DIO's death, I'm fairly certain it's supposed to be justified by when he showed Hol Horse that he had a weaker healing factor on the one half of his body, due to Johnathan's body resisting. Which is why he stalled the crusaders.

I do agree, that I wish that was brought up in the moment, or some big pay off for the death of DIO as the blue flames are inexplicable

I've always been fine to just hand wave Joseph being resurrected with DIO's blood just because we've already seen vampire blood fully resurrect a decapitated Vanilla Ice.

That being said absolutely no clue why he wouldn't turn into a Vampire, other than just claiming Hamon (even though Straizo did become one so meh)

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@gyratyne: I remember there being a video on youtube that debunked all the issues people have about araki forgot. It was quite in depth and called out alot of people for actually overlooking things. One big thing was that in the fight their not flying even if the anime made it seem that way to save animation. People in japan are also way more accepting of stuff since they know or are used to the things non fans arent. Like I never saw a person besides kids who grew up on it and dont have this issue, never saw someone new to anime not complain about characters saying something and not immediately doing it. They usually complain about the time and chalk it up to anime is slow and time is off. Animation people need to adapt comic bubbles plus they cant animate like disney where they get a while to work on things, so cost saving measures cause the lack of just going at it. Lately shows started avoiding this issue as they started learning about western taste and adapting, since westerners low rate their shows if they're not satisfied "Mid" is the worst new word. (real sad state this stuff is in).

Stands act like ghost in that they phase and pick up objects we saw that in the episode where jotaro steals jewelry from a store. He can hold his heart the stands can even phase inside you. Dio lost cause Jotaro hit his stand, not the bad leg thing exactly. Again I think its an issue were its supposed to be pretty clear by now so editors didn't explain but stands get injured you do too. Jotaro is stronger and destroyed dio's stand enough for it to break, your stand breaks so do you in the same manner. He would regenerate but jotaro just didn't put the pieces back together and waited for the sun. Yes, jotaro stopped time and went in the sewer to get dio on tilt. lol. Torture the guy you hate 101. He's been doing this crap all season. I believe jotaro in the illustration is jumping off things with his stand and yes where his stand goes he goes/is carried. Slippery magazines could just be him holding it with his stand, aint much to hold too in stopped time. Things you interact with in stopped time can move, the magnets are on someone who moves in stopped time hence they can move when someone like dio or jotaro is involved. Its stuff im guessing araki or his readers can infer so he doesnt explain. Editors are the reason some stuff like this gets explained and others not i bet. plus this early and you wouldnt get the best editors. Sometimes they even higher highschool age editors to better hit their demo and i know some just dont think about this stuff or think explaining it would be boring. For jumping, The illustration isnt clear with this either. Why araki explains some things alot (mostly to differentiate his series and a personal tick) and why he doesnt explain things where they need it...Dont know, guessing authors just dont notice people wont infer certain things over others. I know tons of series have this problem.

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@dizzyhippos: Yeah, plus it's much shorter. Though after the response to bizarre adventure where bizaree is in the title and they still had trouble taking in things not being air tight. I think even if chainsawman literally is called chainsawman on purpose to make you think this is gonna be stupid (then it's not), wont prepare them enough. Plus most of them already watched it recently. I guess it will work better when season 2 hits and the crazier stuff comes but i'd like to see them react to CM cause the animation and off filter feel shows the large difference anime has, its not all screaming about powers and dbz planet will explode in 5 min = eps time etc. (Sadly if CM adaptation was like normal anime seems japan would have liked it more lol.). Cowboy bebop is kinda slow some eps with some highs and many watched as kids so nostalgia helps but i think people push it too much as this show for non fans and all serious. It still has tons of anime things westerners wont be used to. Judging by how they disliked most fights in part 3 even the last that even haters of jjb like, it seems they also liked part 1 alot more than most since people say part 1 is slow and they skip it ect. Its hard to guess what part they will love. Even part 7 unanimously liked most, may not be their favorite cause people like it for all the weird. Likely they will enjoy the final fight in 6, and like the “air tightness” of 4 and intensity while hating 5 since they wont get how it works. Fun podcast.

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@zuffering said:

no clue why he wouldn't turn into a Vampire, other than just claiming Hamon (even though Straizo did become one so meh)

After Joseph beat Straizo he started using his breathing technique to channel hamon through his body, which killed him. He wasn't using it as a vampire because of that. Joseph would likely have no problem just flexing his hamon muscle and expelling whatever vampiric influence lingers in the blood. Also, it took a little while for Vanilla Ice to actually fully turn into one, remember. He was resurrected but it wasn't until midway through the fight with Polnareff and Iggy that he began to show traits of vampirism, when Polnareff was hitting him with stuff that should have killed him but didn't, like the sword through the mouth.

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I had the same thoughts as the gang, the ending fight for this season was pretty bad, but the rest of the season was great stuff.

Can't wait to see what Jerf thinks of CB, it's a classic for a reason. Plus it'll be his first anime without people having superpowers. It's must more grounded and laid back. Hope he likes it.

And then, fuck yeah Diamond is Unbreakable is a solid ass season. Might be my favorite JoJo season.

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I have watched three episodes of Cowboy Bebop and.. let's just say there's a dozen anime I would rather them watch than this...