I'm quite intoxicated with SW:TOR. I catch myself saying 'This is flippin' brilliant!' every so often.

Gut-Check. How do you feel about SW:TOR right now?

Not so flippin' excellent for me!

But hey, I hope all of you other guys enjoy it!

@fishmicmuffin said:

@Cloudenvy: Care to elaborate? I'm trying to gauge what people think and make a decision for myself. What aren't you liking about it?

It's a very basic issue, I think the combat is really boring and not very engaging. : )

The voice acting and small plotlines are cool and all but I always feel kind of disappointed when there's a really good setup for a quest and then it turns out to be a fetch quest or something. : )

I'm sure there'll be people who disagree with me, and I'm probably the one who is crazy!

I'm loving it.
 
It plays smooth, classes feel powerful and diverse, quests are good and the overall star wars vibe is totally there.

@fishmicmuffin said:

@Cloudenvy: No, that is a totally fair criticism. Combat in MMOs is never the greatest and from what I played during the beta it doesn't appear to reinvent the wheel. Thanks for letting me know! Are you going to stick with it with hopes of it getting better?

Probably not during the holidays since I still have Arkham City, Skyward Sword and Assassin's Creed: Revelations to go through.

But sure, I'd be willing to give it another look sometime in the future when my backlog is not quite as packed. : )

@fishmicmuffin said:

@Cloudenvy: No, that is a totally fair criticism. Combat in MMOs is never the greatest and from what I played during the beta it doesn't appear to reinvent the wheel. Thanks for letting me know! Are you going to stick with it with hopes of it getting better?

Combat mechanics are one of SW:TOR's most interesting and unique concepts, because of the companion and the 'soft trinity' (holy trinity = tank, healer, damage dealer). Every advanced class is proficient at 2 out of 3 aspects of the trinity (regardless of talents) and you always have a companion to fill the 3rd role out of the trinity. My Sith Sorcerer is a proficient healer and damage dealer on his own - together with my tank companion, I manage the whole holy trinity on my own.

Hence all encounters in the game are designed like group encounters. That's a quite unique twist and one can take that core idea of 'being my own group' quite far. Doing group dungeons solo will become 'a thing' amongst the SWTOR hardcore for sure.

TL;DR combat is only superficially 'the same old, same old'. Companions and soft trinity add a unique and worthwhile twist. Especially for more advanced players, who have a deeper understanding of group mechanics and enjoy doing it all - all at once.

Santa won't get to play until the 20th because Santa waited to long to secure a copy of it. Based on Santa's experience during the beta, Santa thinks that it would be an excellent gift for the children on Christmas day.

@JokerFrown: Figures Santa ..... because you failed me I cant play the game nao :´( what a sad xmas

It's fantastic.

@CL60 said:

It's fantastic.

This. Exactly.

I'm liking it. Loving it might be going a little far, but I felt closer to flippin excellent then neutral.

For those of you that are liking it, is the Digial Deluxe Edition worth anything? I.e. does the speeder actually help a bunch in those early levels at all?

Playing it as a single player game atm, and it's quite good (Imperial Agent), as expected. Stepping out into the MMO aspects have me feeling severely underwhelmed, but the art style is soothing on the eyes. Playing on a RP-PvP server, which is the best of both worlds IMO. If I run into a laid back guild, that might be a good reason to keep my attention off Guild Wars 2 for a bit. Also using a PS3 controller to play and it's so much easier on the hands once you get used to it.

So how many of those no votes have even played the game.

@isnipeyoudie said:

For those of you that are liking it, is the Digial Deluxe Edition worth anything? I.e. does the speeder actually help a bunch in those early levels at all?

I bought it.

But.

no. It's not worth it.

The game is great. I just got my Disc in the mail yesterday and finally got the game running. I got early access on the second day (few days ago).

I played it until 5 in the morning (today) so ya... I like it =P

Also color me surprised, but it actually runs on my old ass computer. That part is pretty cool.

Loving it. My skepticism was blown away when playing the beta and now that I can play a character without knowing I'll loose it... yeah. I'm hooked.

I think the game is great.

The game has a huge amount of varied content that keeps me cemented to my desk chair. Questing, crafting, space combat, holocrons, group quests and flashpoints mix up what I'm doing constantly so I don't get bored.

I was worried I wouldn't like playing a Trooper, but I think I enjoy him more now than I would a Jedi.

@isnipeyoudie said:

For those of you that are liking it, is the Digial Deluxe Edition worth anything? I.e. does the speeder actually help a bunch in those early levels at all?

The speeder is just a free mount you can use after you've purchased Speeder Piloting at level 25. You're not buying an early game cheat, you're buying a visually unique vehicle.

@isnipeyoudie said:

For those of you that are liking it, is the Digial Deluxe Edition worth anything? I.e. does the speeder actually help a bunch in those early levels at all?

No.

From what I understand, you don't actually get that speeder until level 25 (with the rest of the mounts). You get a mount, not the license to use it.

@Floppypants said:

I think the game is great.

The game has a huge amount of varied content that keeps me cemented to my desk chair. Questing, crafting, space combat, holocrons, group quests and flashpoints mix up what I'm doing constantly so I don't get bored.

I was worried I wouldn't like playing a Trooper, but I think I enjoy him more now than I would a Jedi.

I agree on every point. First off, Trooper is a goddamn blast. Second, I don't even understand how Bioware had the art budget to make everything that they made. When you get to Nar Shaddaa and see all these lower streets and buildings that they designed that aren't actually part of the questing progression... it's mind-blowing. I have yet to see a room that feels reused. And they're so expansive and huge.

@CL60 said:

So how many of those no votes have even played the game.

Well, he didn't include a "I'm not playing it"-option. I guess you could vote for the B option in that case, but just saying.

@Cincaid said:

@CL60 said:

So how many of those no votes have even played the game.

Well, he didn't include a "I'm not playing it"-option. I guess you could vote for the B option in that case, but just saying.

Well, it's just common courtesy only to vote, if you actually play the early access right now. But what do I know...

I'm really enjoying it, but for some reason my server became really popular and I have to endure three hours of queue time every time I want to play...

It's WoW in space. It's such a lazy and easy comparison but it's also incredibly apt. That's both a good thing and a bad thing. For someone who has played so much WoW before, it's very easy and comfortable to start playing, but it's also something I've done many times before, so I don't see myself playing in 3 months.

@Seppli: You have to take into account that a lot just want to see the results as well. That can of course be GB's fault for not including such an option. :)

@project343 said:

@CL60 said:

It's fantastic.

This. Exactly.

Agree completely. I am hopelessly addicted to this game.

I voted for B.

I got into the EGA yesterday with a few other friends and had a pretty good time. Got to level 13 today and I'm already growing a tired of the game. Reason? Personal preference I suppose. Conceptually, I've always loved the idea of MMOs. I've tried countless MMOs (both F2P and P2P) and only one game has left me hopelessly addicted. That game was Mabinogi. Since then, nothing has compared to that experience. It's completely different to anything else I've played and it's also more of the sandbox variety. To be fair, I knew I wasn't a big fan of theme park MMOs but, I figured I'd jump into SWTOR anyways. I'm definitely enjoying it a lot more than I thought I would so that's a plus. I can see why people are really into it.

I'm loving the combat and some of the quests I wish were just blocks of text and not fully spoken. But all in all I think its a very good game will definitely keep my attention till Mists of Pandoria (sp).

Oh two small things, I dont like that you cant click on someone's name in the chat window and just get a basic rundown of thier character. And also this is extremely nit-picky but I dislike that you cant target friendly npc's that arent vendors/quest givers/npc's of those sorts.

I don't even understand how Bioware had the art budget to make everything that they made. When you get to Nar Shaddaa and see all these lower streets and buildings that they designed that aren't actually part of the questing progression... it's mind-blowing. I have yet to see a room that feels reused. And they're so expansive and huge.

@Jimbo said:

@project343 said:

I don't even understand how Bioware had the art budget to make everything that they made. When you get to Nar Shaddaa and see all these lower streets and buildings that they designed that aren't actually part of the questing progression... it's mind-blowing. I have yet to see a room that feels reused. And they're so expansive and huge.

Do any of them look like they were originally destined for Dragon Age 2? That would explain a lot.

Sigh.

Nah, it was a completely new studio founded like 4 years ago? Anyway, that projected $300 million budget is probably what brought us so few reused assets. I mean, if that number is right, it tripled GTA4's $100 million budget--the current highest budgeted game of all time.

Liking it so far when my ping isnt over 800.

I'll only believe the hype when Mr T or Chuck Norris do an ad for SWTOR. Also what do people call this, becaus WoW is such a perfect way to say World of Warcraft. Do they just say "Swotur" or what?

I'll only believe the hype when Mr T or Chuck Norris do an ad for SWTOR. Also what do people call this, becaus WoW is such a perfect way to say World of Warcraft. Do they just say "Swotur" or what?

How can I view the poll results without voting arbitrarily?

I really like the group dialogue moments. It's nothing groundbreaking, and is little more than a virtual dice roll, but it adds this level of immersion when playing with others.

How much like WoW is it? I have been thinking of trying it out, but people saying it's WoW with Star Wars elements have turned me off the game. I played way to much WoW, I do'nt want to play any more of it.

@Management said:

How much like WoW is it? I have been thinking of trying it out, but people saying it's WoW with Star Wars elements have turned me off the game. I played way to much WoW, I do'nt want to play any more of it.

It has all the features of WoW and is competitively executed and adds a lot of worthwhile concepts and ideas ontop of it.

• The concept of *soft trinity and companions is a gamechanger for combat (i.e. every advanced class does one aspect of the trinity very well, another proficiently and the third aspect is covered by the companion - making every combat encounter feel like a group encounter, making proficient use of group tactics advantageous)
• Storytelling adds to the questing experience. Essentially the class mainquest feels like a proper singleplayer campaign - a KotOR game.
• Crafting is super neat. My favorite crafting experience in MMOs thus far. Little tedium, just managing companions and ressources. Anywhere, all the time - even while actually playing game.

SW:TOR is a themepark MMO just like WoW. It can rival Blizzard's game in execution and features and depth and polish. It feels a lot like WoW first did, but that's a compliment, because once you go ballsdeep - it's not a knock-off. It's an origial.

*holy trinity = interplay between tank and healer and damage dealer

too early, need to see what's at the end of the tunnel ya know... where the real game happens.

@TaliciaDragonsong said:

star wars vibe is totally there.

Ugggh...

I'm loving it soo much!

@Marz said:

too early, need to see what's at the end of the tunnel ya know... where the real game happens.

What good is a Raid and PvP Endgame Threadmill, if getting there isn't fun? Hell - getting there is the only thing that counts right now. I can see me doing all eight main storylines over the next couple of months. It's a damn fine game even without the ambition to rise to the ranks of a full epic powerhouse fueling it. Though I'm sure the endgame's there. At least I found the raid gear and PvP epic gear vendors already. My sorc will end up looking like the pope for the satanist christian sect, the Vatican Warlock Assassins.

Hence it's called a Gut-Check. Not a conclusive review.

@Seppli said:

@Marz said:

too early, need to see what's at the end of the tunnel ya know... where the real game happens.

What good is a Raid and PvP Endgame Threadmill, if getting there isn't fun? Hell - getting there is the only thing that counts right now. I can see me doing all eight main storylines over the next couple of months. It's a damn fine game even without the ambition to rise to the ranks of a full epic powerhouse fueling it. Though I'm sure the endgame's there. At least I found the raid gear and PvP epic gear vendors already. My sorc will end up looking like the pope for the satanist christian sect, the Vatican Warlock Assassins.

Hence it's called a Gut-Check. Not a conclusive review.

yes it can be awesome early on, but it can also be warhammer online, where the first two tiers are awesome, then once you get to the third and fourth tier of levels the game totally becomes a piece of shit, then a lack of endgame to top it off that kills it. As for me i've played the beta a few times, been doing the same quests over and over again, so yeah it's still too early... it's not really fun doing the same quests on different classes over and over again, that begins to open up once you get your starship and i haven't gotten there yet. So none of your poll answers apply to me.

@Marz said:

@Seppli said:

@Marz said:

too early, need to see what's at the end of the tunnel ya know... where the real game happens.

What good is a Raid and PvP Endgame Threadmill, if getting there isn't fun? Hell - getting there is the only thing that counts right now. I can see me doing all eight main storylines over the next couple of months. It's a damn fine game even without the ambition to rise to the ranks of a full epic powerhouse fueling it. Though I'm sure the endgame's there. At least I found the raid gear and PvP epic gear vendors already. My sorc will end up looking like the pope for the satanist christian sect, the Vatican Warlock Assassins.

Hence it's called a Gut-Check. Not a conclusive review.

yes it can be awesome early on, but it can also be warhammer online, where the first two tiers are awesome, then once you get to the third and fourth tier of levels the game totally becomes a piece of shit, then a lack of endgame to top it off that kills it. As for me i've played the beta a few times, been doing the same quests over and over again, so yeah it's still too early... it's not really fun doing the same quests on different classes over and over again, that begins to open up once you get your starship and i haven't gotten there yet. So none of your poll answers apply to me.

At least to me, Warhammer Online was pretty shit from the get-go. I had extremely high expectations and was bitterly disappointed. Most of what they set-out to do, turned out to be merely paper awesome and unfun. At least to me. So I'd have answered this poll with a resounding 'No!' back then. I have a very different gut-feeling about SW:TOR. Opposed to Warhammer Online, SW:TOR's ideas mesh together very nicely. It works as a storydriven singleplayer game. It works as a social online multiplayer game. What I've experienced of matched PvP (a round of lvl 10 Huttball) was fun and promising.

Playing a lvl 20 Sith Sorcerer, I'm having an outstanding time. All the parts I have experienced thus far are fun. Even elements I usually don't care for, like crafting, work for the game. First MMO in a very long time which simply feels right to me. I'm not saying that "Flippin' Brilliant!" is my definitive answer, but it's word for word what I'm muttering every so often, when I just had some crazy awesome Sith moment happening in the story, or by being a total badass dealing with an encounter. Like I sometimes burst into laughing at the insane unscripted awesomeness unfolding in-front of my eyes when playing Battlefield 3. I know it when I see it. This is awesome.

A vocal expression to my gut reaction to what happens in the game. It's too soon to have a gut-reaction? What?

Easily the most engaging mmo in the last few years. Worst bugs I have run into, alot of people got blocked out of certain chats for no apparent reason (guild/party/etc) but we discovered a reload ui fixes it, queues are insane (but they add servers and expand server cap daily), only major complaint after loading up my collectors edition code my pre existing characters did not get the collectors items email although my characters post code registration did.

Lastly... yes the speeder helps. It will save you alot of money by not having to buy one in a store and it does increase movement speed by like 90%.

@TaliciaDragonsong said:

star wars vibe is totally there.

Ugggh...

At first I thought this thread was here to extol the virtues of a class ability called "Gut-Check."

But as I stated in my lengthy blog post found here (*koff* shameless self-promotion *koff), despite an intensely negative beta experience and an intense burn-out on WoW three years ago, I am head over heels for the retail release of ToR. I just need to roll a female Trooper alt so I can get my Jennifer Hale on.

@TaliciaDragonsong said:

@DonPixel said:

@TaliciaDragonsong said:

star wars vibe is totally there.

Ugggh...

I find your lack of respect for my opinion disturbing. Don't make me force choke you now!

Relax I respect your opinion it's far for disturbing, It is just that I find utterly dull what Star Wars has become.

Absolutely loving it. Didn't enjoy playing as a Jedi but Smuggler is awesome as hell.