I'll stay neutral on this. It's a great map aesthetically and its more or less the signature map of Team Fortress 2. But there's just too much deathmatching, spamming, and virtual stalemates, and the map isn't really all that satisfying. The flag sometimes never gets touched, and snipers aren't really useful when they're just skirmishing back and forth with each other. Many players just stay in their base and camp, waiting for an unlucky adventurer to wander in and get owned by ten players.
Team Fortress 2
Game » consists of 12 releases. Released Oct 10, 2007
The long-awaited sequel to the class-based first-person shooter Team Fortress Classic sports a unique cartoony visual style, more accessible gameplay, and a very large amount of updates and new features since its original release.
2fort - Yay or Nay?
I agree with you in regards to the camping that occurs in 2fort, usually at the start of a round you get the usual scout rush (something i have now perfected) and it sets the pace of the game. Then after that initial rush the engineers have had time to put 5 sentry guns inside the intel room with one mad pyro running around like a fool making it impossible for any spy to sap them.
Honestly i think its a problem with a lot of CTF maps in games. The flag is too far into the enemy base making it easy for them to camp, even more so if they have the most captures in the round. I remember in UT2k4 a lot of usermade CTF maps had the flag visible from the other teams base making a round more action packed, exciting and there was less camping.
And i'd say that the CTF aspect of TF2 needs some improvement since with the engineer being a "camper" class due to their sentry guns it can be a big struggle to get past the initial defenses only to walk into the intel room and be greeted by the beeps of a group of sentry guns.
I would totally agree sometimes on 2fort I notice a definite statemate like game...but since its one of those maps where I can play it for a while, then I'll just leave the game if I'm sick of it, it doesn't bother me much..when I first boot up TF2 to play, if the map is 2fort and there are like 25-32 people in it, I'll usually stay just because I love the constant action TDM feel of it. Once I get tired of it though I just go to aserver that has a different gametype on it.
I've grown tired of 2fort, Mach4 I'll still play sometimes though. If there's a lot of people on 2fort then the match will tend to drag out into a stalemate or one team camping in front of the others base.
it's my favorite map, but I play on the 360. There's never really more than 2 sentries in there and a well timed uber or a good soldier/demoman can take them out pretty easily. Spies are really only good for a single sentry... or they can be good in a combo with a demoman or soldier.
That said, I do feel like snipers are completely useless on that map. What's the point in just killing other snipers?
The forts need to be seperated more, with a less expansive design.
The one reason why I find myself really not playing 2fort, is that there is no neutral ground large enough for the action to take place.
Personally I've become in love Dustbowl and Gold Rush, while I'm still trying to get a hang of Badwater and Gravelpit.
I think it's a fun map... and the most recognizable... I honestly don't think I'd like TF2 as much (not that I wouldn't like it all) If it didn't have 2fort in it.
2Fort can be fun when you have a good team that works together. However, that isn't exactly a common occurance in the bigger servers that usually run the map. Like others have said, the match can quickly degrade into boring a stalemate. Goldrush, Dustbowl and Gravelpit are the maps I find myself playing the most.
Nay, I genuinely find offending on that map pretty difficult.
It's hard to get into the base and start work as a spy due to how long it takes to get in undiscovered. It's impossible to get in as a scout if there are sentries. And I really feel you need to be accompanied by a medic if your push forward as a soldier or pyro.
Im going to have to say Yay! on this topic as well, I've had countless great times as a Heavy and Pyro on 2fort.
well it is one of the most popular maps in the game, and the 24/7 2fort servers verify that.
Me, I like 2fort, but I dont like playing on a server that has it running 24/7. And personally I dont think this type of CTF maps are the best, but I would welcome it on a regular routine on servers and will enjoy it a lot. But 24/7.. meeh, you get a little tired playing it all the time.
The community servers I play on have a 24/7 server for it so I dont get to play it unless I go in there for a while.
But yes, it is a good map. Had lots of good TF2 moments on there. So yay.
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