Personally, I think the game is TOO slow. Maybe not Quake or Unreal speed, but this game needs to be faster. The medic speed should be the slowest speed in the game.

Since it's slow, a lot of the game is purely shooting instead of maneuvering and dodging (because that has a limited effect).

What are you talking about.

The game is balanced to a perfection.

Everything.That game was so boring to me.

When I think of TF2, "slow" isn't a word that comes to mind.

To me there doesn't seem to be any glaring problems or imbalances
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Come on, surely there's something you'd change? No game is perfect...

I would make it good on 360 =[

Nerf the Soliders rocket critical rate you don't even have to aim. If a solider gets a critical and you are anywhere near it you will die regardless of what class you are. I'd also make them spiral as no rocket is that accurate as it keeps flying through the air.

More variety in maps, but it looks like valve is onto that.

needs larger maps, 32 people on most of the maps quickly becomes a clusterfuck unless you get some teamwork and plow through

"Come on, surely there's something you'd change? No game is perfect..."

I'm happy with the game as it is.

it's a good game but it was kinda too slow paced for my tastes...

I'd fix the console versions, neither of them are good.

but their isnt much rong with the PC version. And if you want a faster game play CSS

"needs larger maps, 32 people on most of the maps quickly becomes a clusterfuck unless you get some teamwork and plow through"

 The medic speed should be the slowest speed in the game.

I think the speeds fine.

"xruntime said:

 The medic speed should be the slowest speed in the game.

why?"

I would love to see some cool new environments, but aside from that, the game rocks.

Medic should be slowest? Wtf? I don't think so at all. Medic's speed is awesome as it is- if he won't be fast he wouldn't get to heal them quickly.
I think it would be great if you could costumize yourself more deeply, so that people could recognize you quicker, I mean, if there are 4 soldiers on a team, wouldn't it be cooler if you could change the looks of your helmet, your clothing, or style of shooting?
What if you could shoot the syringe gun like a shotgun? so instead of rapid fire it would fire a slow powerful spread shot?

The only real complaint I have is how extreme the damage scaling is on both flamethrowers. I get that the closer you get to someone with it, the more damage it should do. However, I really think that the amount you do while as close as possible is higher than it should be by atleast 30-40%.

"The only real complaint I have is how extreme the damage scaling is on both flamethrowers. I get that the closer you get to someone with it, the more damage it should do. However, I really think that the amount you do while as close as possible is higher than it should be by atleast 30-40%."

Spies are fine. I have no problem catching up with medics since they generally focus on heavies, and most maps are tight small corridors anyway. Soldiers are fine, crit rockets and all. Infact, the latest nerf to the soldier needs to be removed so that I don't continually suicide from my own splash damage seeing as how I only move as fast as a snail on speed. Ubersaw is fine. I've been frontstabbed by spies faaaar more often than I've been critted from the front by a backburner, and the only justifiable change to stickies that I can see is removing crits from them, but I think they're fine.

Edit: Correction, I meant front-backstabbed and not just simply stabbed in the front, of course.

Needs more Gravity Gun.

The absence of a unit that can fire an all-encompasssing nuclear missiles which also capture intelligence and points instantly is a pressing issue but what I'd really like to change is the number of maps. Maybe it's because I've played a lot of Halo but the only reason I ever get bored of TF2 is because I'm playing the same maps over and over.

"Medic should be slowest? Wtf? I don't think so at all. Medic's speed is awesome as it is- if he won't be fast he wouldn't get to heal them quickly.
I think it would be great if you could costumize yourself more deeply, so that people could recognize you quicker, I mean, if there are 4 soldiers on a team, wouldn't it be cooler if you could change the looks of your helmet, your clothing, or style of shooting?
What if you could shoot the syringe gun like a shotgun? so instead of rapid fire it would fire a slow powerful spread shot?"

"Worm said:

"Medic should be slowest? Wtf? I don't think so at all. Medic's speed is awesome as it is- if he won't be fast he wouldn't get to heal them quickly.
I think it would be great if you could costumize yourself more deeply, so that people could recognize you quicker, I mean, if there are 4 soldiers on a team, wouldn't it be cooler if you could change the looks of your helmet, your clothing, or style of shooting?
What if you could shoot the syringe gun like a shotgun? so instead of rapid fire it would fire a slow powerful spread shot?"

I like your idea.

But I didn't say medic should be slowest. I said his speed should be the slowest speed in the game (that is, the heavy).

Are flamethrowers really 50-80 meters in length? That's pretty long, the length of several houses.

I don't really think Grav Gun fits in with the game (there aren't many movable objects anyways). HL2 DM if you want one...

@Gamer_152 - Just join a server that uses custom maps, provided you're running the PC version?

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What's your stats? (go to system requirements lab, google it)

I'd want the scouts to get some kind of upgradeable weapon like the medic,pyro and soon to be heavy.

I would make the pyro be able to use his flamethrower like the jetpack.
Even though i hate pyro, that would be awesome.

All classes are eventually getting weapon unlocks, Bucket.

"What's your stats? (go to system requirements lab, google it)
"

"The only real complaint I have is how extreme the damage scaling is on both flamethrowers. I get that the closer you get to someone with it, the more damage it should do. However, I really think that the amount you do while as close as possible is higher than it should be by atleast 30-40%."

"xruntime said:

"What's your stats? (go to system requirements lab, google it)
"

That site is garbage. It said I couldn't run The Orange Box even on medium with an 8800GT, Dual Core and 2gigs of RAM."

the lack of dlc

"the lack of dlc"

"the lack of dlc"

"psr388 said:

"the lack of dlc"

The new update is giving you 7 maps dude."

"Demilich said:

"xruntime said:

"What's your stats? (go to system requirements lab, google it)
"

That site is garbage. It said I couldn't run The Orange Box even on medium with an 8800GT, Dual Core and 2gigs of RAM."

I wasn't aware that it told you it could run on a particular setting? All it says for me is whether you can run the game (Minimum) and whether you meet the recommended requirements.

It's a great site, for most people it works properly. Don't know how it went wrong with you...

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I would just like Valve to make the spy more viable when you are around trigger happy enemies, right now there are way too many ways to die, not by your own fault, but by other player's paranoia.

Scout buff. that or make the Soldiers slightly faster.

too slow?  play turbine with fast respawn and tell me thats slow.  If you mean the characters them selves each class has to have a different speed other wise the scout would be pointless. 

I do think the demo stickies need to be toned down a little but not much.

Soldiers shouldn't kill themselves with like 2 hits from their own rocket,  whats the point of the rocket jump if they do.

Spy's cloak is seen to easy

A morter instead of the sentry gun would be cool for the eng (upgrade ofcorse)

You could bring out the sniper and the eng updates at the same time and give the sniper spoter binoculars and he can call the morter strikes.

Scout could use a light SMG like the sniper has instead of the pistol as an upgrade.  and a stun baton instead of the bat, to help him steal something and get away.  it could stun anything it hits for 2 sec  thats long enough for the scout to get out of there.

"xruntime said:

"Demilich said:

"xruntime said:

"What's your stats? (go to system requirements lab, google it)
"

That site is garbage. It said I couldn't run The Orange Box even on medium with an 8800GT, Dual Core and 2gigs of RAM."

I wasn't aware that it told you it could run on a particular setting? All it says for me is whether you can run the game (Minimum) and whether you meet the recommended requirements.

It's a great site, for most people it works properly. Don't know how it went wrong with you...

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I was thinking wrong, I meant the bar at the top which determines how far along your PC is to run it. It was wrong on several occasions."

"... anyways there's a mod thats out to fix that:
http://www.tf2turbo.com/"

the hud in the 360 version can get really cluttered. there should be a way to make the hud elements smaller.

If I had to nitpick on a few things, it would be more a complaint on how some classes are handled.

- I think the Heavy got shafted with this new update, Natacha specially. I like what Valve is doing with it, but come on, trading away 25% of damage just to slow the enemy down? How about increasing the critical rate by 10%, or increasing the Heavy's walking speed 25% as well as slowing them down, or heck, make the gun 25% more effective against buildings.

- Give the Soldier a bigger clip again and faster reload. I have NO idea where people are coming from when they say the Soldier's crit ratio is huge, it used to be huge, but now it's abyssmal. You could go through three clips and not get a single crit, and that's saying a lot because that's 12 rockets already, which is what, half of his entire ammo count?

- They should give the demo man an area of effect ability, something to the extent off, let's say he's got four remote grenades set up closely together, they should do more damage, like a bonus for having them close together. I think at times the demo can be really powerful, but that's if he's given enough time to set up; if you're up against a good team which is always pressing, it's difficult to get the best out of the nades since you're not given much time to use them accordingly.

- The cloak speed of the Spy, it takes way, wayyyy to long for a spy to get into cloak, and get out of cloak. Not only that but that time that you spend getting in and out consumes valuable cloak power(don't know how else to say it). I also think that the cloak recharge speed should be made faster when the spy is not in disguise, and slower when he is.

Remove crits, *crsshhh* that is all.

More than 1 you say?

Spy's cloak needs to be rechargeable by something, ammo, kills maybe.
And he needs less than 1000 disadvantages thrown on top of him.

Show his actual health, or something, the 50% crap is an instant giveaway.
Be able to switch/fire his fake guns.  Just various things so that spies actually have a chance to blend in.

Additionally, instant backstabs. Make it play a an animation when your in position to backstab, but you can click as soon as it starts and you'll get the kill. Maybe a some nice butterfly knife tricks that end up with the knife raised and held upside down in position to make the backstab like now. (Watch "Team Fortress 2 Trailer 2" on Steam for the look) But that part's just aesthetics.

Oh and freaking decouple the damn achievements from the unlocks, or just 1 achievement  per unlock or w/e.
To me achievements are 1 of 3 types.

1. The high-count type, awarded for just playing the class for a long time. (1 Million heal points for medic, 1000 assists for Heavy, etc)

2. Medium count, awarded for playing or killing in a specific way. (10 underwater kills w/ pyro, 25 heavy kills w/ another heavy)

3 Low or single count, awarded for something crazy/unusual happening. (The Rasputin for heavy, crit rocket reflection kill for pyro)

But when you HAVE to do a large portion of those and you actually want to use a patch's new weapons, they become none of those thing.

They just become some weird metagame that you have to squeeze out. There shouldn't be any reason that you would have your friend(s) come into an empty server so you can kill each other repeatedly in weird ways.

You should just be playing the damn game with them. Besides it would probably decrease the time that EVERYONE plays the updated class at once.

"- They should give the demo man an area of effect ability, something to the extent off, let's say he's got four remote grenades set up closely together, they should do more damage, like a bonus for having them close together. I think at times the demo can be really powerful, but that's if he's given enough time to set up; if you're up against a good team which is always pressing, it's difficult to get the best out of the nades since you're not given much time to use them accordingly."

- The cloak speed of the Spy, it takes way, wayyyy to long for a spy to get into cloak, and get out of cloak. Not only that but that time that you spend getting in and out consumes valuable cloak power(don't know how else to say it). I also think that the cloak recharge speed should be made faster when the spy is not in disguise, and slower when he is.

- Give the Soldier a bigger clip again and faster reload. I have NO idea where people are coming from when they say the Soldier's crit ratio is huge, it used to be huge, but now it's abyssmal. You could go through three clips and not get a single crit, and that's saying a lot because that's 12 rockets already, which is what, half of his entire ammo count