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Giant Bomb Reax! Xbox One DRM Revised

Microsoft has revealed fundamental changes to how the Xbox One will handle digital-rights management and Internet connectivity, and the Giant Bomb staff reacts.

Jun. 19 2013

Cast: Jeff, Ryan, Patrick

Posted by: Ryan

In This Episode:

Xbox One

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Hello xbox my old friend,

I've come to talk with you again

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www.giantbomb.com/chicago *mic drop*

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For some reason I really want a 3DS XL now.

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@dethfish said:

Yeah, ok, but what did Drew need the box for?

Jimmy Hoffa

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I was planning on getting an Xbone eventually when the price went down to something approaching Reasonable so that I could enjoy the exclusives. Now it looks like I won't even have to feel morally questionable when I do so. Score!

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Why is patrick getting so much praise? An anonymous source willingly gave him info that was getting announced today anyway. Stop treating this like it's All the Presidents Men.

High Crimes and Misdemeanors of the Internet: tonight at 11!

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This why they call him 'Scoops'.

A legend.

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Why is it so important who says it first? Why is that a thing? I don't get it.

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Edited By VACkillers

Well after E3 Microsoft had to do something to change things, they just simply couldn't afford to keep going down the route they were taking and just taking hits left and right from just about all the media, gamers, internet bloggers and even while they were being interviewed and then at the E3 2013 Sony press conference Sony just saying FUCK IT and FUCK DRM just completely changed everything. There was no real financial gain to go out and buy the X-1 with all that restriction there just wasn't so me personally thought that something had to be done and really kind of expected this. With the Launch so far away still there was always plenty of time to do a FULL REVERSAL on their entire DRM policies, but actually seeing them come right out and saying they've scrapped DRM publicly was something I didn't expect. It was the only logical way to prevent the X-1 from being a complete catastrophe but didn't expect MS to backtrack quite so much.

This is great news for people who love the xbox and great for gamers and everyone who spoke out about this whole DRM bullshit because its extremely bad for the gaming industry and breaks the entertainment value of this industry in a big way. Lets not get ahead of our selves though, Sony still had the best line up of games by far, yes X-1 had good games, but it was nothing along the stella tittles Sony are releasing with the PS4 so does this reallllllly affect or change anything in the long run? (not really) from a games standpoint but you will still have the xbox minions falling over themselves that MS have done this reversal.

People are calling this an all out war especially right after Sonys Press conference as well... What I do think what Sony will do to counter act this is go back to basics with their PS3 model and make multiplayer free and remove it from the play station + price model they had which was a copy of xbox live essentially. This brings back the center of attention into the consoles which is all about the games, and not having to pay for any multiplayer gaming is definitely the apatite you'd want.

Lets not also forget... The whole Xbox One's architecture is BUILT around these DRM features and restrictions, there is ZERO GUARENTEE's that Microsoft cannot just simply turn all this stuff back on 2 years into the X-1's life, they'll be able to turn all this stuff on at anytime they want as its part of the engineering code, do you really want to run the risk of Microsoft doing just that after you've all bought it?

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Why is patrick getting so much praise? An anonymous source willingly gave him info that was getting announced today anyway. Stop treating this like it's All the Presidents Men.

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Give yourself a hand, Scoops!

http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/fantastic.gif

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Someone needs to make a Gif of the last 3 or so seconds when Patrick says "Watch Out Dave Lang Whatch You Got to Hide." That would make my day :)

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So Proud of Scoops! Way to go man.

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Congratulations Scoops!

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Good job Patrick! Leaving SF with a BANG!

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Edited By FishBurger

Great to hear that Ryan's still a DRM apologist

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Now we know why Scoops got his meetings cancelled at E3. They must fear his scooping.

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It's about time someone got around to investigating the Lang Zone.

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Edited By misfittoy

It's a day full of win. Though I'm with others in the question of how does this affect digital sharing. That was actually more relevant to me than sharing and lending because I liked the idea of letting someone else who lives in another state be able to play my game. Neat idea.

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@brich said:

How many dollars is it worth to go disc free? I'd probably buy digitally if it was $10 more expensive just so I don't have transport those darn discs around. Hopefully this doesn't ruin the possibility of digital prices equaling or beating retail.

Damn, I was so looking forward to the next generation before this announcement. RIP game sharing. :(

What? If anything, digital versions may be cheaper as a further incentive to buy new, and a way to combat used games. Not to mention it actually requires fewer resources and less money to just copy some data, rather than pressing discs, boxing and wrapping copies, filling orders, shipping, etc. Sure, the whole sharing idea may be dead now, which is unfortunate, but the digital future likely (well, hopefully) means better prices.

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Why is it the videos i want to watch the most, are the one that stutter and skip the worst?

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Edited By BRich

How many dollars is it worth to go disc free? I'd probably buy digitally if it was $10 more expensive just so I don't have transport those darn discs around. Hopefully this doesn't ruin the possibility of digital prices equaling or beating retail.

Damn, I was so looking forward to the next generation before this announcement. RIP game sharing. :(

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Lego Mario Bros, confirmed!

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Feels like this came out of nowhere after all the press and statements from Microsoft but I can understand if there was a concern with pre-order numbers compared to Sony.

Great job breaking the story Patrick. This is how you leave San Fransisco with style.

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Patrick is a rock star! Goin' miss him!

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It's funny watching people fall all over congratulating Patrick, except everyone who reads GAF knows this story was actually broken by an obscure site called Whathifi.com. They even tweeted it out about an hour before it was on GB.

http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=596581&page=1

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Two things here. 1) I inadvertently had just popped a bag of popcorn and sat down in front of my PC to watch this video and eat popcorn and drink a can of pop. Which I find hilarious for some reason.

2) Does this complete reversal of their plans mean that they are going to change the name to X-Box 180?

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EDIT: I paused the video like seconds before Brad said the bit about everyone already coming up with the X-Box 180 thing. :(

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The real question is what doesn't Dave Lang have to hide?

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Fucking awesome, Patrick! It chaps my ass looking at Joystiq and IGN's stories and not knowing why Patrick and Giant Bomb aren't credited with breaking the news.

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What a bomb to drop before moving. Scoops seems to get the best.... well scoops. Also I am kind of surprised by the responses. From, "Aw man, but now I can't share games?" to "Yesssss, I can finally pre-order One!" are pretty much the opposite from what I expected.

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What a grace note, Scoops.

And what an incredibly weird fucking time in gaming right now.

I wonder if folks at Nintendo are rocking back and forth going "oh shit oh shit oh shit". Sony is hungry for it, and MS is crazy hands desperate. Exciting.

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Don't care about this Xbox DRM crap. All I want to know is what's in the box Drew? WHAT'S IN THE BOX?!?!

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GIF of Jeff going "FUCCCK" please NOW

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Cat's out of the bag Microsoft. My sale is already gone. :)

Also fuck you for still not allowing developers to release on your online store without a publishing deal.

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Like Jeff was saying in the video, if this is how crazy things are now; what the hell is going to happen in the next few months leading up to launch?

Someone launches early?

New subsidized pricing models?

Sony throws the camera in there?

Free games in the bundles?

This is going to be a bloody struggle this holiday, and god bless them, everyone. :)

PS4 will probably come with a "free" game. In that, it'll probably come bundled with some free PS+ time, and thus a free copy of Driveclub.

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@golguin said:

Proof that "internet rage" can actually change the world. Now about that Prism stuff...

I think the difference between this and other instances of "internet rage" regarding games or the gaming industry is that there is way more money on the line here (at least for Microsoft). For example, complaining about a game after it's already come out and they already got your money does not have nearly as much of an impact as complaining about a console that isn't out for a while, resulting in a huge drop in pre-orders compared to your competition.

The difference is that pre orders proved that people weren't just full of shit when they said they would get the PS4 over the Xbox One. All the naysayers could wave anything away as "internet rage", but when people voice their opinions with their wallets they could no longer be denied.

Microsoft didn't listen to feedback. They were getting feedback for over a month. They listened to pre order numbers.

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Patrick summons up his inner Doakes.

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Patrick proving there is still some journalism in the games press. I love it. Shit like this is why Patrick will be missed on the bombcast and live shows; he's great at his job. I mean he broke the shady dismissal of the Infinity Ward guys and now this.

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LOL, Interview Dumpster.

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For more news and reviews in the world of video games, find me... in the Giant Bomb Interview Dumpster.

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Couldn't think of a better farewell gift, Patrick. Congrats.

As for the news itself, I'm still with Sony. This doesn't change my mind at all, though it definitely is a good thing. But man, this console launch is going to be a bloodbath, perhaps unlike any before it.

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@golguin said:

Proof that "internet rage" can actually change the world. Now about that Prism stuff...

I think the difference between this and other instances of "internet rage" regarding games or the gaming industry is that there is way more money on the line here (at least for Microsoft). For example, complaining about a game after it's already come out and they already got your money does not have nearly as much of an impact as complaining about a console that isn't out for a while, resulting in a huge drop in pre-orders compared to your competition.

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@pitta: I see it as mainly a problem with Microsoft's messaging. If things like Jimmy Fallon telling a national audience that the Xbox can't play used games start happening, there's almost no way to reel that back in short of doing what they did today. The older Reax video with GB trying to understand their digital policies outlines a serious problem in their push. Their PR and Marketing departments must be losing their minds.

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@pitta said:

So glad the vocal minority of luddites were able to stop our procession into the digital future. I cant wait for the new era of mediocre console iteration now that all the really interesting stuff has been cut.

GOD JOB INTERNET!

Yeah, it sucks that we'll actually own the things we pay for and don't have to worry about our $499 gaming consoles practically turning to bricks if the authentication servers go down. Such innovation will truly be missed.

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Scoops always scooping till the end.

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@dethfish said:

Yeah, ok, but what did Drew need the box for?

I NEED to know

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Giant Bomb, continuing to break huge stories. Kudos, Patrick!

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So glad the vocal minority of luddites were able to stop our procession into the digital future. I cant wait for the new era of mediocre console iteration now that all the really interesting stuff has been cut.

GOD JOB INTERNET!