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    Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War II - Retribution

    Game » consists of 3 releases. Released Mar 01, 2011

    Ten years after the events of Chaos Rising, sub-sector Aurelia is still engulfed in all out war. In this third installment of Dawn of War II, you decide the victor!

    Dawn Of War II: Retribution Trading GFWL Support For Steamworks

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    #101  Edited By cassus

    Maaaan I hope the new matchmaking system caters to sucky players like myself. I guess much of the problem with poor matching in this game has to do with how small the playerbase is, but windows live matchmaking seems to put way too much of an emphasis on quick player matches rather than actually finding people of around the same skill level. I'd rather wait a few minutes for a good match than enter a game where I'll get stomped within the first 3 minutes of the game. Or vice versa. Not that i stomped people all that often, but it happened, and it's no more fun than being stomped. 
     
    GFWL needs to die. Worst matchmaking service ever.

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    #102  Edited By Lind_L_Taylor

    This is a shock.  DoW2 is the perfect model of how to 
    integrate Live achievements with a PC game.  Why
    would they want to get away from perfection??
     
    I wonder what the rationale is to get away from it.
    Will they get rid of existing GFWL achievements
    as well?
     
    I actually hate the idea of mixing achievements
    between systems. How the hell will you know 
    if you got an S-Rank?

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    #103  Edited By Lind_L_Taylor
    @ch13696 said:
    " It's about time they did this. Why the hell would you require Steam activation for both games, but have GFWL support? It's either one or the other. Not both. "
    Actually they had the system work great. I was really amazed at the
    Steam/GWFL integration. Never had any issues with it.  I hope that
    I can continue to use the GWFL with my existing install.  New System:
    don't want.
     
    @mazik765 said:
    " @Tactical_Kill said:
    " @Lukeweizer said:
    "Interesting. No more achievements? "
    Steam Achievements. "
    I want real achievements :( "

    This.  Xbox achievements have points added in. Steam/PS3 
    just give you achievement, who knows if it has value or not?
    And plus nobody really cares about Steam/PS3 achievements,
    other than being better than nothing.
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    #104  Edited By ch13696
    @Lind_L_Taylor said: 
    @mazik765 said:
    " @Tactical_Kill said:
    " @Lukeweizer said:
    "Interesting. No more achievements? "
    Steam Achievements. "
    I want real achievements :( "
    This.  Xbox achievements have points added in. Steam/PS3  just give you achievement, who knows if it has value or not? And plus nobody really cares about Steam/PS3 achievements, other than being better than nothing. "
    Now hang on a sec. I find PS3 trophies to be done very well. With Xbox Live you just accumulate points. While PS3 you gain a percentage which adds up to a level. The problem I find with Xbox Live achievements, is that they integrate it with a lot of things I don't think they should integrate it with. For example, Halo Waypoint. That's just a service, not a game. Another example is 1 vs 100. It is a game, but since the game is cancelled, people can't finish up what they started.
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    #105  Edited By mazik765
    @ch13696:  It's usually up to the developer what the achievements are. And I don't think Halo Waypoint has achievements. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think Halo Waypoint just detects achievements across all your halo games and unlocks avatar awards and the like.

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