Details on Dumping Your Soon Useless UMDs Soon

There are only maybe a couple games for the PSP that I'd like to revisit with the Vita. And I don't really see them being super expensive, so I think I'll just hold onto the UMDs for collection purposes.

Nothing like having a physical game around still though as oddly as that sounds to some of you. I'm picky about what psp games I have purchased since the momentum of the handheld slowed down but I still find myself trying to get a cheap copy of a psp game rather than just download it.

I hope that discount is a big one.

... I'm just gonna wait until PSPs go on clearance, and buy a few more so I can keep playing my games.

I think putting "details" in the title of this article might've been a little misleading.

smh at buying any movie for a handheld.

i am very disappointed in sony, -they still cant get the important things down ,

batterylife on max = 3 hours at best , and beware as battery gets old , it ll die even faster , and it takes 3 hours to charge it only takes my 3ds 1 hour -2 hours at most from a dead state to get enough charge for what i do , and the 3ds max life is 5 hours on min is 8 ,

2 pricing of games this has been confirmed in japan at least games range from 49-72 dollars, im betting itll be 59.99 us dollars

3 games games games, - the only 3 good looking titles judging by previous entires i played is ridge racer uncaharted and asphalt ,

im not interisted in new ips , especally if they end up like lair , ---full of promises that they broken ,

also console ports ==== nope sorry , i dont expect sony to live up to expectations, -its just gonna see port after port after port , and il lwait for a 00 7 title for it if thats the case , cause cal lof duty just is lame

also vitas bc is garbage ,. making us pay for our old games again , its like dvd from vhs making us buy old movies we already own a gain ,

so no thanks , ill just pick up the system let it eat dust until 007 gets released or some other game of the 3 i listed ,

i have no good plans for vita , 3ds is serving me very good has been since i bought it , i dont see a single problem with the thing , since i hardly play games outside my house, i dont really need a vita ,

especally with wii--U around the corner as for bc i could care less i got a psp 3000 with very little games to begin with,

psp was one of those wasted investments, i regret even owning it, i should have waited til i found one for like 40 bucks used at the local pawn like i did for genesis and other unpopular consoles ,

Sony's English Vita FAQ implies that some UMD's will go to download, some will go to the new Vita card format, and some (third-party) won't go anywhere due to copyright/legal issues. No mention of price.

It also says they have no plans to make a UMD "reader".

I'm really interested to see what they do with old titles and dual analog support. Or (if only) up-res'ing. (Not just scaling and smoothing--a true 2x up-res'ing.)

@huntad said:

@patrick: You know what, you win. I don't know if that's what you want, but we are not on the same page. I still think that downloading those PSP games onto a Vita is a huge problem and doesn't make any sense, and you obviously don't agree or understand the memory issues that take a far more prominent seat than swapping games, but are all still related. Fine by me. If you want to keep replying then feel free, but I won't read them, because this is literally going nowhere. Peace.

PSP games on PSN already exist, you keep hovering over this discussion as if it's some kind of hypothetical. Nothing about this system is new. If the common sentiment mirrored anything close to what you're insinuating, Sony would have pulled the plug years ago, instead they've already gone the complete opposite direction and release games exclusively on it without any kind of physical alternative. If you don't want to acknowledge actual arguments for either the reason that you've made up your mind or don't want to admit your preferences and habbits make you a different kind of consumer, then that's on yourself.

@patrick: You know what, you win. I don't know if that's what you want, but we are not on the same page. I still think that downloading those PSP games onto a Vita is a huge problem and doesn't make any sense, and you obviously don't agree or understand the memory issues that take a far more prominent seat than swapping games, but are all still related. Fine by me. If you want to keep replying then feel free, but I won't read them, because this is literally going nowhere. Peace.

@huntad said:

@patrick said:

@huntad said:

@patrick said:

@huntad said:

Or, I could just keep my PSP and play the UMDs on there. Why would I want them digitally? So they could take up all the space on my Vita? That doesn't make any sense. Do people own UMDs that don't own PSPs? All I have are questions!

So you don't have to deal with switching discs, like cavemen. Or having to lug them around with you. Or worry about breaking them. Or carrying your PSP when you have a Vita. Digital copies don't have to sit in your storage indefinitely, that's the beauty of the internets.

If I have to keep downloading and redownloading files that are over 1 or 2 gigs, then how is it worth it? I doubt cavemen would be better off waiting to download and play their games when they have them right on disc.

Then that's just your preference and playing habits holding you back. It's no different than the methodology of any other digital distribution service.

You're assuming a lot about my gaming habits and the reasons for them, which is fine and I won't condemn you for it, but you have to understand that hard drive space is a huge concern for portable platforms and far more than consoles. Methodology and habits are not the only factors that hold people back, although, I'm not exactly sure what you're assuming I'm being held back from, lol.

Downloading content onto portable devices isn't anything new, nor is games onto portable devices. Downloading PSP games to a PSP is already well established. You've pointed out that you're already anticipating specifically redownloading files which isn't a common issue brought up and takes a far back seat to PSN issues in general. Your specific reasons are irrelevant if whatever your habits are lead you to finding yourself having to wholesale swap between different groups of games.

@patrick said:

@huntad said:

@patrick said:

@huntad said:

Or, I could just keep my PSP and play the UMDs on there. Why would I want them digitally? So they could take up all the space on my Vita? That doesn't make any sense. Do people own UMDs that don't own PSPs? All I have are questions!

So you don't have to deal with switching discs, like cavemen. Or having to lug them around with you. Or worry about breaking them. Or carrying your PSP when you have a Vita. Digital copies don't have to sit in your storage indefinitely, that's the beauty of the internets.

If I have to keep downloading and redownloading files that are over 1 or 2 gigs, then how is it worth it? I doubt cavemen would be better off waiting to download and play their games when they have them right on disc.

Then that's just your preference and playing habits holding you back. It's no different than the methodology of any other digital distribution service.

You're assuming a lot about my gaming habits and the reasons for them, which is fine and I won't condemn you for it, but you have to understand that hard drive space is a huge concern for portable platforms and far more than consoles. Methodology and habits are not the only factors that hold people back, although, I'm not exactly sure what you're assuming I'm being held back from, lol.

An idea I had a while back was that Sony could sell (or maybe just distribute to retailers) an external UMD drive that read the disc, determined what game it was, then applied some kind of rod that would scratch the disc thoroughly, rendering it unplayable. It would then spit out a download code for that game on PSN.
 
This way, you avoid having to send your UMDs through snail mail, ($$$+time) and cavemen like me who like lining up my games on the shelf could keep the case, manual, and even the game (no worries about selling it- it's useless at this point).

@huntad said:

@patrick said:

@huntad said:

Or, I could just keep my PSP and play the UMDs on there. Why would I want them digitally? So they could take up all the space on my Vita? That doesn't make any sense. Do people own UMDs that don't own PSPs? All I have are questions!

So you don't have to deal with switching discs, like cavemen. Or having to lug them around with you. Or worry about breaking them. Or carrying your PSP when you have a Vita. Digital copies don't have to sit in your storage indefinitely, that's the beauty of the internets.

If I have to keep downloading and redownloading files that are over 1 or 2 gigs, then how is it worth it? I doubt cavemen would be better off waiting to download and play their games when they have them right on disc.

Then that's just your preference and playing habits holding you back. It's no different than the methodology of any other digital distribution service.

@konig_kei: And this is why we can't have nice things.

See, if they were offering to trade in the UMDs for Vita flash cards, I'd be down. As digital purchases, not so much.

You don't already own the digital versions of the game, and im really getting tired of this entitlement that gamers feel.

They should honestly just sell UMD readers that turn the disc into a playable ISO for your vita. At this point who gives a flying fuck about UMD sales and resale value?

Honestly a pretty nice deal, most other systems just go fuck your old games when they lose compatibility, but at the same time, charging you for games you already own is still a little lame. I guess we'll have to wait and see what these "special prices" really are.

@patrick said:

@huntad said:

Or, I could just keep my PSP and play the UMDs on there. Why would I want them digitally? So they could take up all the space on my Vita? That doesn't make any sense. Do people own UMDs that don't own PSPs? All I have are questions!

So you don't have to deal with switching discs, like cavemen. Or having to lug them around with you. Or worry about breaking them. Or carrying your PSP when you have a Vita. Digital copies don't have to sit in your storage indefinitely, that's the beauty of the internets.

If I have to keep downloading and redownloading files that are over 1 or 2 gigs, then how is it worth it? I doubt cavemen would be better off waiting to download and play their games when they have them right on disc.

You don't get 1000 games by sending things back.

Other then a few RPGs and maybe Lumines 2, I'm not sure it'll be worth the hassle. Kudos to Sony if they DO do this however.

Two big problems I see though? 1. You're gonna need more memory and those propitiatory memory sticks are gonna be uber expensive. 2. Most of my collection is RPGs (Half the reason to own the PSP right there, if you like JRPGs) and several being from Square-Enix. Square's well known for not playing ball with digital downloads.

@metalsnakezero said:

Whatever, if I can have the whole Persona series on my Vita I'll gladly pay for them again.

You're pretty close. Between SMT: Persona, P2: Innocent Sin, P3P and P4: The Golden, the only one missing is Eternal Punishment.

Hell, I'd be shocked if Sentai didn't put P4: The Animation up on PSN at some point, and with a premium membership you could download mobile versions of the Endurance Run, giving you more Persona than a Vita can handle. ;)

@huntad said:

Or, I could just keep my PSP and play the UMDs on there. Why would I want them digitally? So they could take up all the space on my Vita? That doesn't make any sense. Do people own UMDs that don't own PSPs? All I have are questions!

So you don't have to deal with switching discs, like cavemen. Or having to lug them around with you. Or worry about breaking them. Or carrying your PSP when you have a Vita. Digital copies don't have to sit in your storage indefinitely, that's the beauty of the internets.

I have a couple of UMDS that i still want to play so this is quite nice.

This is insanely stupid given that almost anyone nerdy enough to have one of these things almost certainly has an iPhone or Android that they can play movies on. And Apple, Amazon, and others have much larger collections than the handful of movies available from the Sony Media Go store or whatever its called these days. And with Sony having legal problems and security problems nearly every week you would have to be a fool to give them any money.

Or, I could just keep my PSP and play the UMDs on there. Why would I want them digitally? So they could take up all the space on my Vita? That doesn't make any sense. Do people own UMDs that don't own PSPs? All I have are questions!

@Enigma777 said:

Well fuck, I already traded all my UMD's in when I got a Go.

You're probably the winner here, this deal most likely won't be as sweet as dumping them when there was still a market for them.

I plan on keeping my PSP and UMD's, so this doesn't have any effect on me.

They could make this work well if the price was for a bulk of UMDs at once.

So like, a $10 processing fee would allow for up to 50 UMDs to be converted at once.

Dedicated PSPers would love that, and it would create a huge demand for UMDs from people about to switch, which would empty the market in preparation for the Vita.

Whatever, if I can have the whole Persona series on my Vita I'll gladly pay for them again.

Alright so does that mean crisis core and kingdom hearts will appear on the store?

So...sony already said in an interview during this past e3 that they'd be announcing how you could download your old umd games for free. Now, its just a discounted price? Though, this discounted price is currently only announced in japan. I doubt sony of america will do ANYTHING, except sell psp games on the store. They also said the psp go would have a way to transfer umds to it, and that never happened.

So...finished with your psp games? Sell em on amazon, ebay, or wherever.

I would love to own that UMD Hellraiser!

are they making a digital version of Crisis Core finally?  if not then I have to keep that UMD :(

Hope I'm not the only one who read UMD as "use magical device" :/. Damn you DDO!

Fuck it, I'll just keep my PSP.

The only UMD game I would care about enough to get a digital copy of, because my psp's disc drive broke, is one of the few UMD games who's publisher said outright that they wouldn't release a digital version...ever...at this point I would rather buy a new psp then a Vita...

If this "special price" was a dollar or something, it wouldn't be too bad. But it won't be.

"Sony will allow owners of UMD games to gain access to digital versions at a special price."

Um, no... it's either you give me the games that I already paid for free as incentive to buy your hardware or I just skip your hardware and by extension future software.

For fucks sake, I'm like, that one guy out there who buys PSP games and doesn't pirate, and I continue to feel like I'm being punished for it.

Since I have only had one handheld in my life, a GBA SP, this doesn't affect me. It only slightly bothers me by principle, but hey, what did you expect? No one gave us discounts to upgrade our DVD's to Blu-ray.

@lord_canti said:

i started buying digital psp games i dont own last week for the vita and i noticed there is no metal gear acid 1 or 2 and no xmen legends 2, so if they dont do somthing with these umds i will be fairly annoyed

The best way to get those games onto your PSP digitally is to put on a CFW then rip the games.

A few bucks for processing is fine with me, but I won't bite if they are simply trying to cash in. Anything over ~5 dollars and I'm out.

@endaround said:

@Alex_Carrillo said:

Every start of a new generation of hardware weird people want their new piece of tech to run old games. 2 years go by and nobody gives a shit anymore.

If playing old games is really keeping you from buying something, what are you doing? Stop it.

Its because at the start of every generation there is nothing to play on the new hardware. Not such a big deal with handhelds save for those who want to trade in their old ones, but with consoles taking up entertainment center space it is. Its in teh hardware makers interest to allow them to be backward compatible.

I can understand consoles, but for handhelds...man, just keep it. I haven't kept everything, but I still have my Gameboy advance to play all the way back to the earliest Gameboy games if I want.

A legit way to get Metal Gear Ac!d 1 and 2 and Lumines 1 and 2 on there is a good offering. I'll be watching this for sure.

If it's not 5 dollars per game, not interested

I've got 23 UMDs that I'm NOT paying for again. Do it right if you do it at all, Sony.

@Alex_Carrillo said:

Every start of a new generation of hardware weird people want their new piece of tech to run old games. 2 years go by and nobody gives a shit anymore.

If playing old games is really keeping you from buying something, what are you doing? Stop it.

Its because at the start of every generation there is nothing to play on the new hardware. Not such a big deal with handhelds save for those who want to trade in their old ones, but with consoles taking up entertainment center space it is. Its in teh hardware makers interest to allow them to be backward compatible.

Every start of a new generation of hardware weird people want their new piece of tech to run old games. 2 years go by and nobody gives a shit anymore.

If playing old games is really keeping you from buying something, what are you doing? Stop it.

@Binman88 said:

Mandatory bullshit first post.

I like chicken.

Great.