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New PS3 Firmware Enables PSP minis, Better Data Transfer

Can playing full-fledged PSP games on a PS3 be far behind?

This image says "minis" right on it. 
When I bought a new, slim PlayStation 3, I had to go through the data transfer process by backing up everything to an external hard drive. What they didn't tell you, though, is that a lot of that data is "protected," meaning it can't be transferred between consoles... it's only there as a backup. I ended up redownloading everything I've ever downloaded on a PS3, a process that I'd classify as "a pain in the ass."

Well, you new-fangled kids with your new-fangled Internet will never know my pain, as PlayStation 3 firmware 3.15 will add a new, proper data transfer utility. It involves connecting the two consoles together with an Ethernet cable, transferring everything, and then "activating" the new system with your account information. Man... this would have been nice to have a few months ago.

That's one of my personal PS3 gripes corrected, but the real news coming out of this optional firmware update is that it'll enable PSP minis--the inexpensive and "small" PSP games that were released alongside the PSPgo--to be played on a PlayStation 3. This doesn't mean you can run right out and play those games today, though. This update paves the way for minis support, but according to the official PlayStation blog, the PS3 versions of the minis will be available for download "in the coming weeks."

Does this mean that PS3s are now executing PSP code? If they're just emulating the PSP on the PS3, I hope this leads to full-on PSP emulation. Sure, I can already take my PSPgo, sync up a PS3 controller to it, and connect the whole thing to a TV, but actually eradicating the PSP hardware entirely would be pretty cool, too. Obviously, in cases where a game is available on both platforms (like Tekken 6), playing a PSP version on a PS3 is pretty silly. But there are plenty of PSP-only games that'd benefit from a wider base of hardware that plays PSP games. Jeff Gerstmann on Google+
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Posted by Jeff
This image says "minis" right on it. 
When I bought a new, slim PlayStation 3, I had to go through the data transfer process by backing up everything to an external hard drive. What they didn't tell you, though, is that a lot of that data is "protected," meaning it can't be transferred between consoles... it's only there as a backup. I ended up redownloading everything I've ever downloaded on a PS3, a process that I'd classify as "a pain in the ass."

Well, you new-fangled kids with your new-fangled Internet will never know my pain, as PlayStation 3 firmware 3.15 will add a new, proper data transfer utility. It involves connecting the two consoles together with an Ethernet cable, transferring everything, and then "activating" the new system with your account information. Man... this would have been nice to have a few months ago.

That's one of my personal PS3 gripes corrected, but the real news coming out of this optional firmware update is that it'll enable PSP minis--the inexpensive and "small" PSP games that were released alongside the PSPgo--to be played on a PlayStation 3. This doesn't mean you can run right out and play those games today, though. This update paves the way for minis support, but according to the official PlayStation blog, the PS3 versions of the minis will be available for download "in the coming weeks."

Does this mean that PS3s are now executing PSP code? If they're just emulating the PSP on the PS3, I hope this leads to full-on PSP emulation. Sure, I can already take my PSPgo, sync up a PS3 controller to it, and connect the whole thing to a TV, but actually eradicating the PSP hardware entirely would be pretty cool, too. Obviously, in cases where a game is available on both platforms (like Tekken 6), playing a PSP version on a PS3 is pretty silly. But there are plenty of PSP-only games that'd benefit from a wider base of hardware that plays PSP games.
Posted by AjayRaz

sweet

Posted by Cerza

That's pretty cool. I am glad they sorted out the data transfer stuff for the people that have to go through it. Also, that would be pretty cool if you could play full PSP games on a PS3. Maybe then I would actually finish one of those PSP JRPG's since there would be no more neck cramps from staring over a tiny screen for hours on end.

Posted by thecleric

The only way I see that happening is if PSP just finally eats dirt, then they just put up a PSP emulator in the PS3 and run it off that. 
 
 Would be nice, but money wise I don't see it happening.

Posted by mosdl

Maybe that explains why the PSP GOW game didn't make it into the PS3 release of the ps2 games

Posted by PhaggyBigNastyMcKill

I certainly hope this means playing PSP games on the PS3 without the PSP hardware.

Posted by Diamond

I'd love full PSP emulation on PS3, but right now I'd suspect they're compiling special PS3 versions of these PSP Minis.

Posted by FCKSNAP

Just when why PS3s Bluray drive eats it, they come out with this! I should probably just get it fixed instead of buying another one though.

Posted by PJ

Doesnt having the minis playable on the PS3 defeat the whole point whit the minis?

Posted by nanikore
@PJ: Minis on a 62 incher! It's still small, right?
Posted by Emandudeguyperson

It just wouldn't be the same playing all PSP games on a TV with a controller.

Posted by blaakmawf

Seeing as I will not buy a psp without a second thumbstick, It would be awesome If I could play psp games with my ps3 especially since I can buy and download them to my ps3 already. 

Posted by Arcaed
@blaakmawf:  You are aware that even with emulation software, the second analog wouldn't work right? That would require changing the code of the game. Just saying, you'd still be stuck with one stick.
Posted by guilherme

I want to play Half Minute Hero! but I guess that's not included...
If they allowed to play any PSP games on the PS3, then the PSP would have one more console to "compete" with...

Posted by Snail

I might just get Tetris then.

Posted by Linkyshinks

Interesting... I cannot see them bringing full PSP support over to PS3 though.  

Posted by Skald
@Jeff said:
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When I bought a new, slim PlayStation 3, I had to go through the data transfer process by backing up everything to an external hard drive. What they didn't tell you, though, is that a lot of that data is "protected," meaning it can't be transferred between consoles... it's only there as a backup. I ended up redownloading everything I've ever downloaded on a PS3, a process that I'd classify as "a pain in the ass."
"
Been there, done that. Yes, "a pain in the ass" is an accurate synopsis.
Posted by PenguinDust
@Linkyshinks:   
 
I agree since it would remove any reason for owning a PSP other than the portability.  While that is a nice feature, I tend to play even my portable games at home.  I doubt I am alone in this.  Still, how sweet would it be to play Persona and (eventually) Persona 3 Portable on the PS3?
Posted by FunExplosions

Nice. I had to re-purchase Super Stardust HD and PAIN awhile back. I don't know why I bought PAIN again...

Posted by Lilarcor

I don't own either of the Sony platforms right now, but I plan to buy a PS3 eventually, and it'd be nice to be able to buy the PSP games I've missed out on without having to shell out for that system too. So I hope they do this, but I don't know how likely it honestly is.

Posted by Pkshields

Being able to play the Minis on PS3 for some reason kinda justifies the complaints about a higher price point than iPhone for me. It will definitely make me even consider buying a mini now.

Posted by aurahack

Woo. FINALLY I can play Tetris.

Posted by jos1ah

Dunno what PSPminis are good, but I hope they do make full-fledged PSP games available on the PS3 as I have no intention of getting a PSP itself, but would like to play a couple of the games. Mainly, Chains of Olympus and the Loco Roco games.

Posted by Mushir

This is the first time I hear about PSPminis. Frankly, the name sounds kinda stupid.

Posted by brocool

Yeah i remember that rant you had on the bombcast about this issue.. glad to see its fixed,

Edited by radion_null

Aww. beat me to the punch kind Sir. I wonder if that is a good move from Sony to allow for PSP games to play on PS3. It may allow for an increase in software sales but won't that impact hardware sales?

Posted by Th3_James

sounds like a sweet feature, considering that i am gonna buy a ps3 slim for my living room soon, got my fat one in my bedroom

Posted by Bucketdeth

Awesome, I hope this is set to come out before christmas.

Posted by kagekage

Then the only use of a PSP would be portability. And I don't think that the PSP needs anything that'll hurt its sales any further.

Posted by CrazedJoker
@kagekage:  Play-Station-PORTABLE! That's its purpose.
Posted by Sparky_Buzzsaw

I'd love full-on PSP emulation software.  Man, there are some great games for that system I'd like to get caught up on - Joanne d'Arc and Final Fantasy VII Crisis Core come immediately to mind.
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Posted by EvangelBlue

This is great. Though i'm still waiting for the private ingame chat function....

Edited by niall077

psp emulation on ps3? 
 
well isnt the psp a portable ps2?    
 
 

PS2 EMULATION COMING TO PS3 CONFIRMED!!!1!

    
 
someone get kotaku on the phone
Posted by KinjiroSSD

At what point do you ask yourself why you bought a portable system

Posted by EPGPX

"Does this mean that PS3s are now executing PSP code? If they're just emulating the PSP on the PS3, I hope this leads to full-on PSP emulation  " 
 
Me too but it'll never happen because if it would then nobody would buy a PSP. Developers wouldn't need to make games for PSP anymore when they can just make games for the PS3 PSN. Basically, if it were to happen, this would seriously hurt the PSP profitably.
Posted by MetalGearSunny

Yet another update that doesn't appeal to me. 

Posted by Keeng

I imagine if that ever happened they would somehow make it so that you needed a PSP to do it. But, more than anything, I imagine that won't ever happen, regardless of the fact that I really want it to.

Posted by Spike94

Yes. I hope they do the full PSP thing, that'd be way amazing. 
Other than that, yeah that's cool. I'm sure I'll find a Mini I'll enjoy. Won't buy anything soon, but I'm sure something will come up, or is already there that I don't know about. Anyways, sweet.
Posted by Brackynews
@Jeff: Somehow I don't think "eradicating the PSP hardware entirely" will turn up in a future firmware readme.  :D

I'm sure this move is purely to appease PSP Mini developers by giving them a larger customer base.  They are charging more for their Mini applets than they can get away with on the iPhone platform, because of the audience size and paying big for ESRB cert.  A more expensive version of the same game will take longer to recoup the "admission" fee on a portable install base measured in fractions by comparison.... I don't imagine the PSP sales alone will justify the dev kit.
 
If the ESRB ever gets claim over the App Store games, I think we'll see most of the crap disappear overnight.  
(Feel free to replace "crap" with "unsung innovation" if you wish. ;)
Posted by Duckbutter
@Metal_Gear_Sunny said:
" Yet another update that doesn't appeal to me.  "
true dat, but ya can't deny that its impressive for Sony to upgrade the PS3 damn near every month. 
its like a free repair man visiting every month and saying "yea i made you hear a little bit better and i made your cock a little bigger. i'll be back next month and work on your smell."
those other 2 consoles upgrade like what? 6 months to a year? lame.
Posted by animateria
 "Can playing full-fledged PSP games on a PS3 be far behind? "
 
 
This. I want this!
Posted by RisingRaiden

AWESOME!!!!! I might still have a chance to play MGS Peace Walker!!!!!!

Posted by TheHT

Removing PSP exclusivity would be a bizarre move, albeit one that many PS3 owners would be happy though essentially removing any need to get a psp, unless they want to play games on the go. :\

Posted by Killroycantkill

I would like it is they made it so that putting in an old hard drive into a new PS3 dosen't automatically reformat it. That way I  could get all my old save files back from my broken 60 gig. I wonder if there is a way to hook it us to a comp using an external rig or something. I really want my 100% Prototype file back and all my PS2 saves.

Posted by Kilnik

Finally I'll be able to play Kenka Bancho: Badass Rumble on the PS3!
...Maybe.

Posted by squidracerX

 will this still work with a "backup" on an old drive external though? what if my current ps3 breaks, that whole transfer from an OLD one to a NEW one doesn't help unless i had that old data somewhere else... really why else would i  buy a new ps3? unless this way you could have 2 ps3's in your house and have the same data on both, but i highly doubt that.....  anyway id put my data on an external now if it would work that way....
 
anyone who knows message me please! 

Posted by squidracerX
@niall077 said:
"
psp emulation on ps3? 
 
well isnt the psp a portable ps2?    
 
 

PS2 EMULATION COMING TO PS3 CONFIRMED!!!1!

     someone get kotaku on the phone "
I'd like that myself (i have a 60gb so i have the ps2 on my ps3 anyway), but it doesn't sound like psp emulation yet unfortunately, it sounds like ps3 versions of the mini's... they haven't mentioned any games. i bet it will get there one day though. I loved my gba player on my gamecube! Lets cross our fingers!
Posted by ch13696

Or better yet. Port the PSP games to PS2 like they did with some games. Thats how I got Jak & Daxter The Lost Frontier.

Posted by SHADOWINFINITE

I'm getting the New PS3 250gb system 

Posted by Milkman

What's the point of the PSP even existing anymore?

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