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Star Wars 1313 Looks Real, Real Good

Just talking graphics here, but it's a safe bet you haven't seen many games operating on this sort of technical level before.

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The game that seems to be getting the most buzz here at E3 all of a sudden is Star Wars 1313, and there's a good reason it's grabbing a bunch of headlines: it looks absolutely goddamn amazing. I'm not blowing hyperbolic smoke, just making a quantitative statement about the kind of raw visual fidelity LucasArts is achieving by adapting a bunch of Industrial Light and Magic's film-industry rendering techniques and throwing them at the best PC hardware you can get right now. Lucas is being all cagey about when this game is coming out and what platforms it will actually sell on, but it's obvious that the demo on display at the show is targeted at machines a hell of a lot more powerful than the ones in your home right now.

Reading a lot of effusive language about nice video game graphics is kind of boring, right? Instead, here's a pretty good cross-section of the demo being shown at E3 so you can just get an idea for yourself how good the game looks. The craziest part about this footage is how much detail you can't see simply due to the compression in the video. Seeing this thing running in person, the natural look of the lighting, character skin and so on is pushing the graphical quality near the level of photorealism. It's absolutely something else to see when the camera goes in close and you can barely tell that the guy you're looking at is a video game character. (That has as much to do with the advanced performance capture LucasArts is doing in collaboration with ILM as it does with advanced pixel shaders and camera effects.)

Actually, forget the graphics. There's other stuff about 1313 to get excited about, primarily the fact that everything about its aesthetic and tone made it feel like the prequel trilogy doesn't exist, and that this is based directly on the original movies. It reminded me of that wonderful heyday of Star Wars PC games in the '90s that included stuff like X-Wing, TIE Fighter, and Dark Forces, purely due to things like classic-looking costume and spaceship design, and the focus on telling a unique story with new characters in some unknown corner of the Star Wars universe (in this case, the seedy criminal underworld of the city-planet Coruscant). The people making this game want to steep it in a moral grey area, rather than the black and white morality that goes along with the jedi in the movies. Come to think of it, the phrase "no jedi, no Force" was used in the demo I saw, and I'm perfectly fine with that. It's time for something else. Something with more blasters and more attitude!

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The playable demo of 1313 being shown here paints the game as Star Wars Uncharted, split as it is between cover-based third-person shooting against mercenaries boarding the player character's ship, and the sort of superhuman climbing and gymnastics that you see Nathan Drake engaging in on a regular basis. That might sound more reductive than it should--I'd be perfectly happy to play a well executed game like that, if the story is on point. Though, I do hope the full game has some more potential for exploration at some point.

In any case, LucasArts really stepped it up at what's honestly been a bland E3 overall, coming in with a demo that's extremely impressive largely because it's utterly different in at least one respect from everything else at the show. It's a tantalizing glimpse at what the next generation of hardware might offer, and it makes me hopeful that there might once again be a Star Wars game worth getting legitimately excited about in the not-so-faraway future.

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This looks amazing. Haven't played a Star Wars game in years, but I can't wait to get my hands on this!

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@Gyrosion said:

Is Jar Jar the final boss?

Do you know how they said there are no Jedis, sith, or force powers here? Wrong... Jar Jar is a force user and the final boss.

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From the gameplay, it looks like LucasArts should have made this another one of those games where you eventually become a Jedi, like in Jedi Knight. Hopefully they'll use this engine to do that with another game, since it sounds like 1313 is going to be another cover shooter. The gameplay just looks like it's so fluid and fast enough that it would lend itself a lot better than any previous attempts at visceral close combat like I personally have wanted forever from a Jedi game and still haven't gotten. The Force Unleashed games are the closest we've seen so far and were both slow as hell by comparison.

At least it looks like LucasArts are getting back into fighting form when it comes to the games they put out. The quality looks like it's there again from the brief demos they're showing. I'm going to jump on the bandwagon of being "cautiously optimistic" like some others have said. It would be nice to see LA put out good games again after years of mediocrity.

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dear lucasarts... please just make another dark forces game. thank you.

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Whoa look, a "dark" and "real" Star Wars game that bears an uncanny resemblance to Uncharted.

I have serious doubts about the quality, especially with all this strange hype, but as Brad pointed out I guess I'm in for a well executed Star Wars game. And the graphical fidelity definitely draws me in on top of that.

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I does look very good, indeed. But it doesn't look that good.

I propose the Trylks' test for photorealism: graphics pass this test when you can't tell whether a character is a real person or CGI when looking at its eyes, in normal conditions of light, movement, etc. No static images, no dark or blurry images, etc.

(This is inspired by the Turing test)

This is not the case for this game, they are CGI in an obvious way, but I do agree this may be close to the standard to expect for next generation. After checking the tech demos of Unreal Engine 4 and the 3rd version of the crytek engine, next gen may look even better than this. IMHO.

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@tennmuerti: exactly. Better to temper our expectations until we've seen more or have tried out the game ourselves.

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@synthesis_landale: i have to disagree with you completely. They've shown this game in a playable, albeit very brief, form whereas the final fantasy video is pretty much a tech demo. Until they actually turn that into a game -which at this point they are still seeking fan feedback so we have yet to see this being green lit or if it actually does become a game- then we can actually start comparing or talking about it in the context of it being a game. As a tech demo its somewhat underwhelming but as a concept in terms of setting and character/s, it is very intriguing considering if you are a fan of the FF mythos and its various universes. Its good to know though that Square Enix has began considering or has something cooked up for their next generation of games but as of now we can't compare it to SW 1313 or Watch Dogs until we see even a small amount of gameplay and not just a cutscene.

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@GaspoweR:

Watch Dogs has been stated to be for current gen, 360, PS3, PC. The demo however was most likely a PC showing.

I would not hold out high hopes for 1313 as a game (not talking graphics) the demo that was game-play was just third person boilerplate plate cover shooting and some Unchartedy scripted jumping climbing. So better to keep expectations for that in check.

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We've kinda seen this thing happen before and in a way I'm still very much cautious as to how the devs are actually going to pull this off. Considering that they are showing this now in a time wherein no new consoles with far advanced hardware has been confirmed yet and with only one other game (Watch Dogs) so far has been shown to be a next gen title, Lucasarts must be extremely confident that this game will be able to succeed wherein The Force Unleashed failed. This is an extremely risky gamble on the part of Lucasarts and showing this game so early only puts added pressure and even extremely high expectations for this game as we approached c,oser and closer to its launch day. Hopefully this doesn't turn out to be like The Force Unleashed, Alan Wake -even though I love this game-, or Killzone, wherein at some point the game looked very promising yet it wasn't able to live up to expectations.

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@synthesis_landale said:

@Tennmuerti: SW:1313 was barely gameplay though. Other than a few seconds of 'climbing', which looks as uninteractive as the most 'quicktime but not' sections of Uncharted. What people has been raving about is the level of detail and facial features, and thats's all about the realtime cutscenes at the start. That makes them comparable IMO.

Doesn't matter how much game play is there. It being there is already a huge difference. Perception difference between 0 game play and actually seeing great graphics paired with gameplay is on an entirely different playing field, both technologically and in peoples minds. The close up on the faces does just that because it's paired to game play afterwards and them talking later, it cant be dismissed by people to the same degree as a simple cutscene, that's what their faces look like ingame. They are already showing a game, not a vague tech demo. "IMO" doesn't matter here. Public perception and technical showing does.

A technical demo graphical showing is not comparable to a gameplay showing, not on any level, in any way you cut it. Again "IMO" doesn't play here. One is here, now being played. The other just a clip with no interaction, in some far off future maybe or maybe not. Even the Samaritan demo looks more concrete then the FF tech demo, because at least the first one is from an engine dev who's previous engine version is everywhere and people have a better point of reference and relate-ability.

You will note I earlier criticized 1313 graphics in this thread, this has nothing to do with my opinion in regards to 1313 or FF as games or graphically wise. Simply to do with delivery and how people perceive it. This very article and the rest of the thread is proof of the public perception of the 2 showings. Average perception is just as blind to just how extremely limited the 1313 demo is in environmental scope (a point far in favor of the FF tech demo if we could actually compare them)

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@synthesis_landale: And yes, I ignored the corridor part, because well, if people really are raving about THAT section... then Sony and MS might as well just release the same consoles with a little more ram in it and claim they're the future.

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@Tennmuerti: SW:1313 was barely gameplay though. Other than a few seconds of 'climbing', which looks as uninteractive as the most 'quicktime but not' sections of Uncharted. What people has been raving about is the level of detail and facial features, and thats's all about the realtime cutscenes at the start. That makes them comparable IMO.

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@synthesis_landale said:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVX0OUO9ptU

Be sure to watch it in 1080p.

I'm surprised no one has brought this up in the conversation... SW:1313 looks good, but only in relation to current gen games... THIS tech demo however blows it away, easily. Shame everyone will dismiss it because it's Final Fantasy and therefore teh sux0r because Final Fantasy has been crap for a while. THIS is they kind of graphical fidelity we should be expecting from 'Next Gen' games, not a slight step up from what we already have.

People are even more dismissive of that then the 1313 visuals mostly because it's a tech demo, nothing more. You can do some incredible stuff for a tech demo and optimize it all to hell, plus is looks like just a cut scene, making it more forgettable. It's different when people are shown in game graphics on that level working in the actual game play.

If you start judging stuff by tech demos, well the Samaritan Unreal 4 tech demo has been out for a while now, tech demos gotta be compared vs. other tech demos. :/ It's all about how it actually looks in the game, when you are playing it, now. Not something nebulous years down the line devoid of game play. It's a nature of a tech demo, nothing against FF.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVX0OUO9ptU

Be sure to watch it in 1080p.

I'm surprised no one has brought this up in the conversation... SW:1313 looks good, but only in relation to current gen games... THIS tech demo however blows it away, easily. Shame everyone will dismiss it because it's Final Fantasy and therefore teh sux0r because Final Fantasy has been crap for a while. THIS is they kind of graphical fidelity we should be expecting from 'Next Gen' games, not a slight step up from what we already have.

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@Cubical said:

Starwars 1313 is only running unreal engine 3.5 and this is what unreal engine 3 stuff looks like on non console noob hardware when it is not held back. it looks like ass on consoles. you ask people at e3 and they will tell you what the engine is for star wars 1313 epics booth is only to happy to tell people it is unreal engine 3.5 and update that uses dx11 code.

and the sparks cloth and other effects is done with nvidas hardware physx AKA the effects console noobs do not get they are on the PC versions not the console noob versions.

Oh and all the old ass pc hardware they are throwing in these next console is ATI and they are working close with nvida.

simple as that it will look like ass even on a new xbox or the ps4 since they just use old ass cheep pc hardware throw it in a box and call it a console.

There is no magic engine and unreal 4 looks even better than this and it was shown on the geforce 680gtx and is a PC engine. then again unreal engine 3 was a pc engine until they neutered it to work on consoles kinda like the crysis engine.

OH and PC people can download those unreal engine 3 tech demos and the UDK and run them if they want works just fine on my PC and my slow ass pc from 4 years ago that I use as a paper weight now.

http://www.nowgamer.com/news/1401272/epic_unreal_engine_4_platforms_unconfirmed_beyond_pc.html

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Dat walking animation. I could watch this guy and the guy from Watch_Dogs walk all day.

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Oh, a cover based shooter with jumping sections, but this time, with better visuals! How exciting and amazing!

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Is Jar Jar the final boss?

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yeah, this game looks really cool and I'm looking forward to it and all... but I think its pretty crazy to say this is the best looking game ever. Uncharted has looked better than this and The Last Of Us looks miles better. Not to mention Watch Dogs. I mean the animations were kinda jenky (actually, sorta like uncharted, where it just looks...gamey) and that dudes face looked real mediocre up close.

People seem to be focusing so much on the graphics instead of "holy shit a great star wars game idea!", and i dot see the reason

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i dont know, it looks really nice, but mostly polygonal shapes and flat surfaces. i think the last of us looks better environment-wise and animation-wise.

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It is an approach to the Star Wars universe I could cope with. And it does look nice.

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In addition to graphics, I hope there are improvements to artificial intelligence.

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@Cubical I'm real sorry but as soon as you used the term "console noob" I had to immediately stop reading.
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What's this!.....it can't be.....I actually feel excited about a star wars game.........wow!

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I think it looks really, really good.

Not mind blowing I admit, seeing Witcher 2 & Metro 2033 cranked to the max can look just as nice, but what 1313 seems to have is budget and a flashier scope. While the smaller teams of Witcher and Metro may have amazing looking parts, other bits are lacking, plus this has crazy explosions and stuff.

I don't think you can really tell though until you're seeing it in motion yourself. I always thought Gears 3 looks average, until I was playing it and for some reason the impressiveness of the graphics just clicked.

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I wish there was more then 2 minutes of footage.

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Uncharted in space?

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It looks interesting. I do like traversal shooter games, I like Uncharted for sure, but do we need another game like that? I LIKE those types of games, but by the time I see SW 1313 will I be sick of them?

That what it comes down to can the development studio "add something" to make it fresh? I would say their best bet is to take dialogues trees and choices from Mass Effect and then place that in a traversable environment like and Uncharted game. Part of "Original" star wars to me, was always the negotiations people had. People in Star Wars are always 'bargaining' and 'playing each other' to get where and what they want.

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@Humanity Facts? Eh? Your facts are that you think Witcher 2 looks better. I think 1313 looks better. Sorry.

I posted a video and pointed out graphical elements in it which are on par if not superior to the 1313 video. You just said it doesn't look good. You put zero effort into proving your point and it's increasingly apparent are a waste of time to try to talk to.

You said you think Witcher 2 looks better. I think 1313 looks better. A lot better. Sorry.
As much as I love Witcher 2 and it looks gorgeous, I gotta agree that 1313 looks better graphically, quite a bit better.
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That is some stuff not even my glorious PC computer wouldn't run at those frames per second. Damn, so good.

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@Humanity Facts? Eh? Your facts are that you think Witcher 2 looks better. I think 1313 looks better. Sorry.

I posted a video and pointed out graphical elements in it which are on par if not superior to the 1313 video. You just said it doesn't look good. You put zero effort into proving your point and it's increasingly apparent are a waste of time to try to talk to.

You said you think Witcher 2 looks better. I think 1313 looks better. A lot better. Sorry.
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@Cubical said:

I find it hilarous when the console noobs think there fucking new xbox or ps4 is going to look like as good as a PC game when the new consoles already run old ass pc hardware that is what they have been doing since 2001 stuffing old ass pc hardware into a box and calling it a console.

Besides it will play like ass with a analog stick anyway

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@Fjordson said:

@Humanity Facts? Eh? Your facts are that you think Witcher 2 looks better. I think 1313 looks better. Sorry.

I posted a video and pointed out graphical elements in it which are on par if not superior to the 1313 video. You just said it doesn't look good. You put zero effort into proving your point and it's increasingly apparent are a waste of time to try to talk to.

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@Cubical: No one gives a shit, shut the fuck up.

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As much as I respect Brad as a person/professional and especially a great interviewer. His opinion on graphics are not something I would place much stock in (personally) atm. For 2 main reasons: hailing Uncharted 2 as the best looking game he has ever seen (at one point), which was super surprising having then played it I could only shake my head in disbelief. And not participating in last years best graphics disgussion much, at least not when 2 heavyweights of the gfx area came up, namely BF3 and Witcher 2 for the PC.

As far as 1313 itself goes it's graphically impressive and looks very good. However there is a very good reason most people who have been gaming on high end PCs are simply not blown away, we have already experienced a very similar level of quality (whether or not you consider them better graphically is a bit irrelevant). Add Metro 2033 to those 2 for good measure.

BUT what makes 1313 less impressive to a trained eye is scope. Scope of exactly how much detail vs. number of objects is on screen is hugely important. I will freely admit that 1313 probably looks better in detail (like faces) compared to the BF3/Witcher2/Metro2033. However all of the action and events occur either in a deliberate facial closeup, then in an extremely tight and sparse corridor and then a singular ship (a wing at that). Cramming more detail when you have to only render a tiny area is not hard. It's the same tricks used by God of War 3 or Uncharteds 2-3 for example, making actual areas tiny, and ocasionally using basic tricks to show huge scope when in actuallity there is almost nothing going on in that scope outside a very limited tiny area. Same reason martial games can have much mroe detailed dudes, there is less shit, so you can make it more detailed. It's a basic graphical principle.

The scope and freedom of say BF3 and Witcher 2 playing areas (as well as the number of dynamic shadows having to be processed due to vegetation) make their graphical achievements far more impressive then making 2 dudes look really detailed closeup, a corridor, and a wing of a burning ship. And honestly when I first played Witcher 2 and saw the beautifull trebuches flinging rocks at a castle while several highly detailed actors were having a convo nearby, that's when I was wow'd, and then once more during a dusk in the forest and then a burning town at night. The beautifull interplay of light and shadow on a truly complex highly detailed and dynamic environment was at the time mind boggling. A tiny area with a few objects and a limited scope doesn't have quite the effect.

Also quite a lot of people here are assuming we are being cynical assholes and saying that 1313 looks like shit. We aren't (for the most part i assume i havent read the entire thread). There are some people just not impressed to the same degree. It looks great, but it's not mindblowing. And certainly not leaps and bounds beyond what is possible today on a high end PC with a great game.

If such an opinion is me being a jaded cynical asshole. Then i'll be one gladly.

Finally (and this is the most important part): for the love of god we need a 1080p feed to actually compare high quality gfx in any way. You can make a turd look like the most amazing shit ever if it is only has to be rendered out in 720p, is only ever shown in a tiny window not a full screen and compared only to other 720p stuff (which is what as far as I am aware all that is available on the game atm). The amount of processing power required is hugely dependent on the resolution. Currently if you expand the available 720p on a PC monitor it doesn't look good at all, downright bad in fact. And in no way even remotely comparable to the quality of the current lead PC games at 1080p. (all of the above i wrote is only even aplicable if the quality of 1313 gfx shown holds up at 1080p, if not then one can't even be remotly impresed in the first place). Seriously why are they not releasing 1080p feeds of this game, they want to show how great it looks right? This is one area in which Brad currently has a one up on all us armchair experts :P

EDIT: ofcourse the other disspointing reason has less to do with graphics and more to do with just how much of what is shown feels like Unchrated with a Star Wars coat on, shooting dudes from crate to crate has gottena bit stale for some.

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@Humanity Facts? Eh? Your facts are that you think Witcher 2 looks better. I think 1313 looks better. Sorry.
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@Fjordson said:

@Humanity said:

@doobie said:

@Humanity said:

@RVonE

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Really this is supposed to blow me away? I've seen games look about this good on my pc right now without it breaking a sweat.. I'm a bit disappointed.. though at least I know I'll be able to run "next gen" games no problem.

Name one of those games.



Well Witcher 2 for one. I'm not really saying HEY MAN pc games rock and you console kiddies ain't got a clue - but I do think this a case of unwarranted Brad obsession where he will champion this title to no end. I think it looks neat but it hasn't seemingly done anything we haven't seen before so I can't understand where Brad is coming from.

can you please post or link to a video of the witcher 2 that looks as good as that video.

If you say this doesn't look anywhere near as good as that Star Wars video then I dunno I'm not gonna argue with you about it but I think you're crazy. You can see every little rock in the road, all the chinks in his chainmail etc - it's extremely detailed and when you watch the 1313 video the ground has a texture but it's pretty flat. I'm not saying the Star Wars video looks BAD by any means just that yah it's good looking but nothing that took my breath away - I thought the gameplay, the whole 1 minute basically they showed of it, looked FUN to play though.

No, that doesn't look nearly as good as this 1313 demo.

Some people here saying they aren't impressed need to go see an optometrist.

If you think that doesn't look "nearly as good" then you're the one who needs to see an optometrist.

It's not a crime to admit that maybe someone has a point. How can you seriously look at that level of detail in the game and say it doesn't look nearly as good - can you point out what looks worse in it? Any details or are you just throwing down a blanket statement without any facts to back it up.

Unless of course you're saying it looks worse because it's not a scripted sequence with explosions and aren't judging the graphics on their own.

Once again, I'm not saying 1313 looks bad - it looks great - but it looks in the LEAST equally as good as that video I posted in terms of sheer graphics. If you're talking about scripting and action events then sure, it has Witcher 2 beat hands down, but those are two completely different games.

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@Cubical said:

Oh and all the old ass pc hardware they are throwing in these next console is ATI and they are working close with nvida.

simple as that it will look like ass even on a new xbox or the ps4 since they just use old ass cheep pc hardware throw it in a box and call it a console.

lol, what are you talking about? How is the future? And what color is the new Xbox? You seem to know a lot about unannounced platforms.

All the recent job listings at LucasArts for this and their other unannounced RPG project decribed them as "future gen" games. Hate to rain on your "old ass cheep pc hardware" rant, but this demo is their target for what you'll see on the next systems. Sorry mang.

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@Humanity said:

@doobie said:

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@RVonE

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Really this is supposed to blow me away? I've seen games look about this good on my pc right now without it breaking a sweat.. I'm a bit disappointed.. though at least I know I'll be able to run "next gen" games no problem.

Name one of those games.



Well Witcher 2 for one. I'm not really saying HEY MAN pc games rock and you console kiddies ain't got a clue - but I do think this a case of unwarranted Brad obsession where he will champion this title to no end. I think it looks neat but it hasn't seemingly done anything we haven't seen before so I can't understand where Brad is coming from.

can you please post or link to a video of the witcher 2 that looks as good as that video.

If you say this doesn't look anywhere near as good as that Star Wars video then I dunno I'm not gonna argue with you about it but I think you're crazy. You can see every little rock in the road, all the chinks in his chainmail etc - it's extremely detailed and when you watch the 1313 video the ground has a texture but it's pretty flat. I'm not saying the Star Wars video looks BAD by any means just that yah it's good looking but nothing that took my breath away - I thought the gameplay, the whole 1 minute basically they showed of it, looked FUN to play though.

No, that doesn't look nearly as good as this 1313 demo.

Some people here saying they aren't impressed need to go see an optometrist.

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Starwars 1313 is only running unreal engine 3.5 and this is what unreal engine 3 stuff looks like on non console noob hardware when it is not held back. it looks like ass on consoles. you ask people at e3 and they will tell you what the engine is for star wars 1313 epics booth is only to happy to tell people it is unreal engine 3.5 and update that uses dx11 code.

and the sparks cloth and other effects is done with nvidas hardware physx AKA the effects console noobs do not get they are on the PC versions not the console noob versions.

Oh and all the old ass pc hardware they are throwing in these next console is ATI and they are working close with nvida.

simple as that it will look like ass even on a new xbox or the ps4 since they just use old ass cheep pc hardware throw it in a box and call it a console.

There is no magic engine and unreal 4 looks even better than this and it was shown on the geforce 680gtx and is a PC engine. then again unreal engine 3 was a pc engine until they neutered it to work on consoles kinda like the crysis engine.

OH and PC people can download those unreal engine 3 tech demos and the UDK and run them if they want works just fine on my PC and my slow ass pc from 4 years ago that I use as a paper weight now.

http://www.nowgamer.com/news/1401272/epic_unreal_engine_4_platforms_unconfirmed_beyond_pc.html

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@ThePhantomStranger: What separates Star Wars from other Sci-Fi IPs is the fact that it can be hardly considered science fiction given most of the things that make up the core of Star Wars. It is a space opera/fantasy in the vein of fantasy fiction

On Topic - I love the fact that the article points out that this looks like something that would have come out before the prequels. I loved Dark Forces and initially lost interest in the series when they made Kyle a Jedi (granted Jedi Knight II is a sweet game).

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I honestly don't think this looks impressive, besides graphics set in space always look better, especially if they feature lots of neon.

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Am I the only one bummed by the fact that there won't be any Jedi? Frankly, I think a game where you play a simple bounty hunter, trying to outrun superhuman space monks with laser swords would be thrilling. They are so much more powerful than you, that the boss battles would be incredible. You take away the appeal of Jedi from Star Wars, and it just isn't that original of an idea. I'm a little worried.

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@Judge_Dredd: I'm holding onto the hope that they showed a shooting sequence because it's a trailer and its TO GET PEOPLE WAY PUMPED. There's a real chance that shooting won't be as important as this short video suggests.

It's a game about bounty hunters. Shooting will clearly be the main gameplay component.

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Uncharted in space! I'm down, but it's not nearly as groundbreaking as The Last of Us or Watch Dogs as far as being talked about as one of the best shows at E3.

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@Judge_Dredd: I'm holding onto the hope that they showed a shooting sequence because it's a trailer and its TO GET PEOPLE WAY PUMPED. There's a real chance that shooting won't be as important as this short video suggests.

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Anybody else bored of hiding behind a box and shooting at guys? I know Gears of War is popular, but sheesh, I prefer the third person shooters where moving is what's encouraged.

The aesthetic is great, the gameplay looks mindnumbing.

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@Nevi: because it is new and it is polished. Remember "new is always better"

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Star Wars is a boring IP that hasn't had novel content in years.

But people keep paying to see the same SW characters have the same fights over and over, so of course Lucas is going to keep making SW games till the end of time.

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@gladspooky said:

Science fiction is technically an offshoot of fantasy.

I suppose, if by that you mean in the same way that creationism is science.

Edit: I won't be deleting this comment, but I realize re-reading it a few minutes later that it contains a level of snark that was probably undeserved. I'd like to semi-retract it and instead say I disagree, and think there is a legitimate difference between fantasy and sci-fi, and saying one is an offshoot of the other is debatable.