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Treyarch Says You Should Think Twice Before You Glitch In Black Ops

Treyarch's multiplayer director bristles when discussing how the studio will treat glitchers and exploiters.

Call of Duty, if you didn't know, is popular. So is  Call of Duty: Black Ops. Last night, 2.9 million dudes (and dudettes) were online in the Xbox 360 version alone. With this kind of massive draw, it's no surprise that some glitches and exploits have been discovered and reported. And while developer Treyarch could simply opt to ride the wave of these initial reports before speaking to these discoveries, it isn't. On the game's official message board, multiplayer director David Vonderhaar has been saying some headline-worthy words of warning to those who are currently abusing the game and its systems.

"What many of these people want is to be Internet nerd famous," Vonderhaar wrote, according to 1UP. "I'm not going to make them famous and you shouldn't either ... "

"Given the opportunity, I'd personally wield the ban hammer for anyone who thinks he is clever by abusing any glitches. Good thing I don't have the opportunity that often and we actually have a constructive, measured, and well-managed live ops team," he said. 
 


"We said we would support the game. We are going to support it," Vonderhaar continued. "We are disinterested in making mini-celebrities out of douche-bags. You better think twice before you glitch. You never know who in your game doesn't like glitchers who reports you and saves the game in their File Share and tells us about it."

Wow. Hey, guys, don't cheat in Black Ops. If you do, Vonderhaar sounds like he's on the verge of paying you a personal visit of the least pleasant variety. But, in all seriousness, you might want to keep it clean. It sounds like Treyarch has its hands over the Ban Button. Plus, you don't want to be that guy. You know, the guy that launches himself at another person just to blow himself up with a Javelin? That guy. 
  
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Posted by BradNicholson
Call of Duty, if you didn't know, is popular. So is  Call of Duty: Black Ops. Last night, 2.9 million dudes (and dudettes) were online in the Xbox 360 version alone. With this kind of massive draw, it's no surprise that some glitches and exploits have been discovered and reported. And while developer Treyarch could simply opt to ride the wave of these initial reports before speaking to these discoveries, it isn't. On the game's official message board, multiplayer director David Vonderhaar has been saying some headline-worthy words of warning to those who are currently abusing the game and its systems.

"What many of these people want is to be Internet nerd famous," Vonderhaar wrote, according to 1UP. "I'm not going to make them famous and you shouldn't either ... "

"Given the opportunity, I'd personally wield the ban hammer for anyone who thinks he is clever by abusing any glitches. Good thing I don't have the opportunity that often and we actually have a constructive, measured, and well-managed live ops team," he said. 
 


"We said we would support the game. We are going to support it," Vonderhaar continued. "We are disinterested in making mini-celebrities out of douche-bags. You better think twice before you glitch. You never know who in your game doesn't like glitchers who reports you and saves the game in their File Share and tells us about it."

Wow. Hey, guys, don't cheat in Black Ops. If you do, Vonderhaar sounds like he's on the verge of paying you a personal visit of the least pleasant variety. But, in all seriousness, you might want to keep it clean. It sounds like Treyarch has its hands over the Ban Button. Plus, you don't want to be that guy. You know, the guy that launches himself at another person just to blow himself up with a Javelin? That guy. 
  
Posted by JoeGJ

Good.

Posted by mammo

This isn't going to stop anybody

Posted by Undeadpool

Vonderhaar knows where you live and has seen where you sleep. Just sayin.

Edited by xMrSunshine

Not gonna glitch mom I swear

Posted by EmuLeader

Great to hear.  The video system from halo seems to be very useful in deterring a HUGE problem from MW2.  Also, just the way he phrased it, avoiding formal speak and calling out douche bags, is just hilarious.

Posted by BraveToaster

Hide your kids, hide your wives, and hide your husbands, cuz they banning err-body out here.

Posted by Brodehouse

This is a Blizzard style threat, one you can only make when you're King Shit.  One less fucker, or even ten thousand less fuckers, is a drop in the ocean of Call of Duty.

Posted by nutta27

good!

Posted by Jayzz

Hell yes.

Posted by 234r2we232

Sounds awesome. But we'll see.

Posted by madroxcide

I really think that is a cool side effect of systems to record data to watch matches and stuff over again that was added. You can use it as evidence of problems. Trying to describe some glitches or describe how to do them can be confusing, just flat out going hey take 20 seconds and watch this and you are done is a whole different ballgame. Glad to see they want to be all over this though.

Edited by zameer

It's funny how he declined comment on the issues plaguing the PC version because he was "out of the office on a business trip" but found time for e-dick waving. Get your shit together Treyarch.

Posted by Afroman269

Dude is gonna beat some asses. Physically and electronically.

Posted by jonnyboy

You won't be fucking laughing when you wake up in a basement with a cue ball in your mouth. Or get banned for 30 days. Either way, it's pretty life changing.

Posted by AgentMOO

Think twice before exploiting the floating apple glitch!

Posted by TheHBK

isn't banning up to microsoft?  Or Sony?  Also, while I hate people who use glitches, is that against the terms of use on xbox live?  Your not manipulating or changing the code or hardware....

Posted by Andheez
@JoeGJ said:
" Good. "
Amen.  While I didnt really like MW2 very much anyway ( TERRIBLE map design) , glitching basically had me not playing at all.
Posted by porr
 @jonnyboy:  
 
LOLOLOLOLOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLOOLLOLOLOLOLOLO
Posted by 41d3n

Is it just me or does it sound like Vonderhaar is a 14-year-old girl?  "The game's not broken!  You're broken!"  It's almost like he doesn't understand that glitching - unlike hacking - is something that it is the developer's responsibility to patch out.  Not to call it's consumer base "douche-bags" and make threats like a middle-schooler suddenly becoming aware that his macaroni art "painting" of an elephant looks all-too-much like a penis to his friends.

Posted by TheJuda

 Stupid. Ban people because they exploit a glitch? How about you fix your shit instead of banning people. Players make videos to show people how to do it so that the devs get off their asses and fix it. If only a handful of people know about it, then who cares. 
 
I wouldn't like people making videos of how my product wasn't up to par either, but I wouldn't say "oh you paid for it and found a bug? Well I'm not gonna let you play it anymore." Customers are doing your job for you, assbag.  Be thankful they are making it public and there isn't just a group of dickheads out there keeping it to themselves and ruining it for everyone without telling anybody.

Games being released glitchy are becoming an epidemic and the ridiculous "oh we'll fix it after launch" mentality that companies have nowadays is bullshit. How about I pay you half of the $70 now and half when the game is working properly? Don't like that idea? Well I don't like paying full price for a game I can't play properly because you didn't QA it well enough.

Posted by Kombat

Excellent. I'm glad to see that we're unlikely to have a repeat of the extreme sort of situation that the Javelin glitch promoted during Modern Warfare 2's release last year. The game was effectively unplayable with all of the assholes running around and doing their part to break the game. And I didn't really think of the utilizing the file-sharing system as a means to oust cheaters. It seems like a no-brainer now.

Posted by 41d3n
@TheJuda:  My brother.
Posted by ch13696

Sooooo... maybe they should fix the glitches instead of threatening people. It's only going to push the cheaters into finding more glitches and exploits.

Posted by Moloney

Guuuu on Vonderhaar    
Posted by Nephrahim

Oh quit riding them, ALL games have bugs.  It's not an epedimic, it's how it's always been.  I remember when I was 10 being able to make 99 Rare candies to level up my Bulbsaur by fighting Missingno.  They are going to fix it, and this, admittedly awesome message, is to tell people not to cheat. 
 
If you find a glitch, you can just email it to them, instead of posting it on Youtube.

Posted by ch13696
@zameer said:
" It's funny how he declined comment on the issues plaguing the PC version because he was "out of the office on a business trip" but found time for e-dick waving. Get your shit together Treyarch. "
WTF? You're kidding right? This just goes to show how much they care about the PC and are easily in Microsoft's wallet.
Posted by Glak

Throw down the law buddy, good job 
Although I have no idea why people are saying this is going to stop cheaters from this game, it's just going to slightly reduce it

Posted by ThePhenomenal1

god bless you treyarch

Posted by EdTwo

dude, is that McNamara in that video, in the limo?

Posted by kenya24

Ban cheaters... and keep banning them. 
 
I always wish I could get an email or something saying "The D-bag you reported last week has been suspended/banned".

Posted by ArbitraryWater

If Treyarch can wield the banhammer more effectively than Infinity Ward, they will have earned my respect as a developer. The Javelin Glitch ruined MW2's online for almost a week before it was fixed.

Posted by Joeybagad0nutz
@EdTwo said:
"dude, is that McNamara in that video, in the limo? "

Yes.
Posted by George_Hukas
@kenya24 said:
" Ban cheaters... and keep banning them.  I always wish I could get an email or something saying "The D-bag you reported last week has been suspended/banned". "
I'm so happy they are making this clear to everybody since glitchers don't usually think they are "cheating"
 
It almost seems stupid to even try considering every move they just made in the match they just played is accessible by everyone they just played with.
 
Ban em all
Posted by President_Barackbar

Is the glitch "ops team" made of former Black Ops guys who sneak into glitchers houses and water board them?

Posted by sixghost
@41d3n said:
" Is it just me or does it sound like Vonderhaar is a 14-year-old girl?  "The game's not broken!  You're broken!"  It's almost like he doesn't understand that glitching - unlike hacking - is something that it is the developer's responsibility to patch out.  Not to call it's consumer base "douche-bags" and make threats like a middle-schooler suddenly becoming aware that his macaroni art "painting" of an elephant looks all-too-much like a penis to his friends. "
Agreed. He comes off as a complete idiot. How about you fix your game?
Posted by Duffyside
@sixghost said:
" @41d3n said:
" Is it just me or does it sound like Vonderhaar is a 14-year-old girl?  "The game's not broken!  You're broken!"  It's almost like he doesn't understand that glitching - unlike hacking - is something that it is the developer's responsibility to patch out.  Not to call it's consumer base "douche-bags" and make threats like a middle-schooler suddenly becoming aware that his macaroni art "painting" of an elephant looks all-too-much like a penis to his friends. "
Agreed. He comes off as a complete idiot. How about you fix your game? "
I think actual glitches is something developers/publishers should be blamed for, but I don't think it's unreasonable to also blame players (not entirely, but a bit at least) for exploiting these glitches. I don't think they should be banned for it, but I don't think people who are upset at them for using these glitches that break the competitive spirit of the game are wrong. 
 
However, what is totally unacceptable is ANYone from Treyarch or Activision make ANY statement about ANYthing pertaining to players exploiting their mess while the game on PS3 and PC is a complete fucking disaster. Not "not quite as good as the 360" or the same-old exploits, but games being dropped, lockups, freezes, framerate issues, launch issues, crashes, blahblahblah. 
 
What a joke. "You guys better not 'cheat'." Oh, don't worry, I won't... because I can barely play this broken game as is.
Posted by Jimbo

"You better think twice before you glitch. You never know who in your game doesn't like glitchers who reports you and saves the game in their File Share and tells us about it."
 
Oh my gosh, please don't get Treyarch on me!  They might get IW to beat me up and then copy them in a really derivative and substandard manner.
 
Srsly, what a fucking tool.  All this made me think twice about is buying their shitty, glitch-ridden game.

Edited by audiosnag
@sixghost said:

" @41d3n said:

" Is it just me or does it sound like Vonderhaar is a 14-year-old girl?  "The game's not broken!  You're broken!"  It's almost like he doesn't understand that glitching - unlike hacking - is something that it is the developer's responsibility to patch out.  Not to call it's consumer base "douche-bags" and make threats like a middle-schooler suddenly becoming aware that his macaroni art "painting" of an elephant looks all-too-much like a penis to his friends. "
Agreed. He comes off as a complete idiot. How about you fix your game? "
I don't think thats what he's saying to be honest, he said they were supporting the game, that kinda implies fixing it where needed. To me it just sounds like people who abuse glitches they find will be punished and i have zero problem with that.
Those people are douchebags. I'd much rather hear this from a dev then zero comment or a 'meh' when asked about it.
Posted by MrCynical
@ch13696 said:
WTF? You're kidding right? This just goes to show how much they care about the PC and are easily in Microsoft's wallet. "

Sure... because Microsoft have no financial interest in the sale of Microsoft Windows PCs.
Posted by Warchief
@TheJuda: ./highfive 
 
well said
Posted by SteamPunkJin
@SamDrugbringer said:
" Oh quit riding them, ALL games have bugs.  It's not an epedimic, it's how it's always been.  I remember when I was 10 being able to make 99 Rare candies to level up my Bulbsaur by fighting Missingno.  They are going to fix it, and this, admittedly awesome message, is to tell people not to cheat.  If you find a glitch, you can just email it to them, instead of posting it on Youtube. "
So fucking true...
Posted by Brendan

This article goes to show that even when the message is good, if someone says it in an agressive way than internet nerds will recoil and react negatively.   
Posted by Nomin
Posted by tourgen

hacking is one thing, but playing the code they put out there in a non-standard way should not be a ban-able offense.  It's the game.  As is.  Release good code next time douchebag.

Posted by Inf225
@TheJuda: Word.
Posted by Mmmslash

Hey, Treyarch, how about we make the PC version playable before talking about moderating anything?
 
That'd be fucking great, guys.

Posted by Pinworm45

Why don't you fix them, instead of banning people using them?

Posted by zameer
@ch13696: I really wish I was joking. His forum post before they 404ed got pasted here.
 
http://kotaku.com/5686079/black-ops-on-pc-suffering-from-mysterious-lag     
Posted by Brackynews
@ArbitraryWater said:

The Javelin Glitch ruined MW2's online for almost a week before it was fixed.

See, right there, you italicized ruined, when in reality the important words in that sentence are "almost a week" and "was fixed".  
 
The Javelin is the fastest I have ever seen Microsoft and a publisher collectively haul ass and present a unified front that says they don't much care for users pulling this shit. Lots of people were banned in spite of a big chunk of community arguing that glitchers aren't cheaters.  If they had rushed out a broken patch in under 48 hours, we'd be complaining about that.  

Something in a game gets exploited, and then it normally gets patched soon thereafter.  I don't know why gamers in particular insist on suffering through those events.  It's like during a power outage these folks are cranking a generator to get in a couple more hours, then go off screaming at the power company for interrupting their day.  Fuck it, just go and do something else with your time until it gets sorted out.  Or better yet, play with people you know.
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