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Communism is an economic and political ideology which (at least in theory), seeks to eventually achieve a classless society that promotes equality in gender, racial, and/or social terms. Despite this, most Communist regimes are often dictatorial rather than utopian.
Nothing to see here.
Okay, the last couple of days, there seems to have been several people trying to convert people to communism here on GiantBomb.
And I've had enough of it.
I don't care if you people think that countries like the Soviet Union or the People's Republic of China were/are not "true communist" countries. The fact of the matter is that they tried to be communist, and they failed miserably. And why is that?
Because communism is fundamentally broken. It relies on people being "equal," but by the very definition of what a government is, people can't be equal. Why? Because anything on a scale bigger than a village is going to wind up with people in charge of the government, be they mayors, governors, presidents, whatever. On a large scale, decisions cannot be made by the people as a whole, because nothing would ever get done, thus there has to be a group of people who make governmental decisions, and thus these people are not equal to those they rule over.
And really, do you honestly expect those people to make decisions that are going to be in the best interest of everyone? It didn't happen in the USSR, and it doesn't even happen in countries like the USA.
So please, for the love of Tesla, give it up. Communism is no better than what we have today. And in all honestly, I'd much rather have a system where most people are screwed, but if you work hard enough/get lucky you can rise to the upper classes, than a system where unless you're born into the governing class you're screwed.
God-damned mother-fraking commie pinko bastards.
Let me guess. You're one of those people who yell at "them dirty commy sumbitches" whenever there's an idea that's fundamentally different than yours?
I seriously doubt anyone was trying to convert anyone, it really didn't seem like it to me. Besides.. it was two threads, bro. Get over it.
You don't understand the concept of communism or the history behind it, ie. there has never been an actual communist society ever realised on Earth. People forget, or simply don't know, that despite the Soviet Russian regime disengaging from the first World War they were invaded by imperialist armies attempting to wipe the revolution off the face of the earth. The end result of this was a Stalinist hard-line deviation due to the hostile geopolitical situation. In other words, unless the revolution is global, Marxist countries have a difficult time surviving because countries like the US are unscrupulous in pursuing their aims. Both Cuba and Venezuela for instance have had to adopt increasingly authoritarian tactics in order to deal with outside capitalist pressure. In any case, Soviet Russia and China only paid/pay lip-service to Marxist ideology, whilst being authoritarian in practice. Although China has government-owned businesses, it has blatantly accomodated itself to the private sector, ie. capitalism, for god's sake. To call it communist is a misuse of language.
Converting on a forum xD
You're taking it all too serious, there's more to life then Giantbomb's forums (incoming smartass comments I'm sure).
@Snipzor:
@Azteck:
Hey guys, I guess I wasn't being clear enough, but this wasn't really meant to be taken seriously. I kind of thought that people would realize that being this over the top about communism would be a dead giveaway for it being a joke, but I guess not. Yes, part of it was being serious, but I don't actually think that two people constitute people trying to convert people to communism.
@owl_of_minerva:
Did you read what I wrote? "...by the very definition of what a government is, people can't be equal." " The fact of the matter is that they tried to be communist..." I thought that what I wrote was pretty clear about how communism can't work on a large scale, and that those countries weren't actually communist.
" @CaptainObvious said:What if it's a 3D 50 inch?" Communism is crime. YOU WOULDN'T STEAL A TV! "I totally would if I could get away with it. Well, depends on the tv. "
Долгосрочной службы великолепная социалистическая утопия. Капиталистическими клеветническими изменническими свиньями будут жертвовать за большую пользу.
Might you mean:
" Long-term service a magnificent socialist Utopia. Capitalist slanderous traitorous pigs will endow for greater advantage." ?
I'm hoping you're joking, or didn't think I would take the five seconds to find a translator online.
Вы будете первыми, чтобы упасть, когда коммунизм повышается снова как великолепный Финикс." @ninjakiller: Might you mean: " Long-term service a magnificent socialist Utopia. Capitalist slanderous traitorous pigs will endow for greater advantage." ? I'm hoping you're joking, or didn't think I would take the five seconds to find a translator online. "
I'm not a communist (socialist actually, though that'll probably scare you enough) and I have some friends that grew up in communist countries that are no longer communist, there is both good and bad things to say for it. Polish communism was pretty effective, as an example. There's some people now that miss the 'communist days', because at least then everyone would get a job, and unemployment was at an (obviously) all-time low, if not nonexistant. Are there tradeoffs? Of course, there was a lot less choice in what form that employment would take, or if you even wanted to be unemployed.
To paint every form of communism with the same brush, is being a bit overgeneralized. I wouldn't necessarily describe it as the best form of government, but if there IS a communist sect trying to convert people to communist way of thinking, then so what? You can argue against it, but you shouldn't be saying that they shouldn't be able to argue their point because you disagree with it.
Your last line kinda kills any reasoned argument you have by the way there McCarthy.
Я смеюсь над вашей глупостью. Когда-нибудь Вы должны видеть ошибку ваших путей, и приезжать в яркий свет капитализма." @MooseyMcMan said:
Вы будете первыми, чтобы упасть, когда коммунизм повышается снова как великолепный Финикс. "" @ninjakiller: Might you mean: " Long-term service a magnificent socialist Utopia. Capitalist slanderous traitorous pigs will endow for greater advantage." ? I'm hoping you're joking, or didn't think I would take the five seconds to find a translator online. "
" @Sjupp said:If I could get away with hauling such a big-ass thing back to my home; Most definitely!" @CaptainObvious said:What if it's a 3D 50 inch? "" Communism is crime. YOU WOULDN'T STEAL A TV! "I totally would if I could get away with it. Well, depends on the tv. "
Most people my age rarely understand much of anything very well, so that would explain the communist threads.
One word: Yugoslavia that country was great when Josip Tito ruled it everybody loved him. It was when he died when the country went to shit because of the Serbian and Croatian politicians because they made us hate each other with propaganda. But other then that the country was great, the economy, sports, tourism, culture, everything. The thing about commmunism is you have to have a good leader.
" One word: Yugoslavia that country was great when Josip Tito ruled it everybody loved him. It was when he died when the country went to shit because of the Serbian and Croatian politicians because they made us hate each other with propaganda. But other then that the country was great, the economy, sports, tourism, culture, everything. The thing about commmunism is you have to have a good leader. "thats the thing about every governmental system the people in charge need to be good effective leaders.
" Долгосрочной службы великолепная социалистическая утопия. Капиталистическими клеветническими изменническими свиньями будут жертвовать за большую пользу. "
" I'd much rather have a system where most people are screwed, but if you work hard enough/get lucky you can rise to the upper classes "Great I'm glad you feel that way. Yes communism isn't better. But Socialism is just an economic extension of Democracy in a government of the PEOPLE also runs an economy of the PEOPLE. People would have equal power in not only their policy-making, but also the running of their businesses. It prevents the scenario you describe in which rich people wield unlimited power to prevent others from improving their standing in society. If you think you can become as rich as the guys on Wall street by "working hard" you're kidding yourself. Yes it happens, but 99.99999% of the time (especially now, not previous generations) you will not be able to improve your situation that drastically. The poor get poorer, the rich get richer. Go Capitalism.
Thanks! All this communism talk has converted me." @TheSeductiveMoose: Haha I love your new avatar! :) "
Да здравствует коммунизм!
"Best national anthem ever. I'm not being sarcastic. Really, it's that great.
*Tears up* "
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