Both Kinect and Move unimpressive to me. (Question)

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#1  Edited By rdav1109

As of right now, both Kinect and Move are very unimpressive. Basically, what I see is this: 
 
Microsoft doing something cool but ruining it by making it extremely expensive, limiting it to basic Kinect-only games, and forcing non-360S gamers to have another god awful power brick.  
 
Sony making a 100% wii-rip off controller complete with a remote and 'nunchuk' but in Sony fashion, and making it usable on most games. Then again, I saw it used on Socom 4 and it looked terrible. You simply can't use Move for an FPS. That's why Wii does not do well in the shooter area. You get a much better response with a couple analog sticks and a button layout. 
 
Basically, what I want to know, is, do I have anything surprising to look forward to based on my current opinion, or is this basically exactly what they are?

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#2  Edited By AhmadMetallic

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#3  Edited By MancombSeepgood

Microsoft would have you believe that Kinect is the absoloute future of gaming, but all they're showing is casual nonsense. Until they can prove there's something there that their current fan-base wants to play, then they're not going to do that well, really. 
 
Move looks like it has a bit more potential, but it still seems, as you said, like a Wii rip off, and it isn't even original enough to try something different like Microsoft, so... Yeah.
 
I don't think many people are impressed with the motion stuff just yet.

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#4  Edited By Joshakazam
@Ahmad_Metallic said:
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#5  Edited By Semition
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#6  Edited By Monkeygb21

 

I hate to admit it but Leigh Alexander made a good point on the Bombcast.   Anyone who would be into this crap already bought the Wii.  

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#7  Edited By MancombSeepgood
@Monkeygb21 said:
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I hate to admit it but Leigh Alexander made a good point on the Bombcast.   Anyone who would be into this crap already bought the Wii.  

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I missed that, but it's a great point.
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#8  Edited By voodooterror
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#9  Edited By Mrskidders
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#10  Edited By thechriseverson
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#11  Edited By Quacktastic

I was almost ready to buy the Move, but the more I think about it the less I care.
I don't see how they can make hardcore games with Kinect if you can't move your character everything has to be on rails right?  So that seems dumb.
 
So I guess,
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#12  Edited By Meowayne

 That's why Wii does not do well in the shooter area.

 
 You have never played WaW or MW or Red Steel 2 on the Wii, have you?
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#13  Edited By Tireyo

I feel a creation of a Giant bomb coming on!

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#14  Edited By BestUsernameEver
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#15  Edited By rdav1109
@Meowayne said:
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 That's why Wii does not do well in the shooter area.

  You have never played WaW or MW or Red Steel 2 on the Wii, have you? "
Yes, they suck. End of story.
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#16  Edited By RobotHamster
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#17  Edited By LegalBagel
@Monkeygb21 said:
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I hate to admit it but Leigh Alexander made a good point on the Bombcast.   Anyone who would be into this crap already bought the Wii.  

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I feel that way about the Move at least.  Theoretically it has different capabilities - and of course the PS3 is inherently a more powerful system - but don't really see why I would spend that much to basically buy an HD Wii. 
 
Kinect is at least different.  Right now I'm excited about Kinect + Just Dance.  Just think of it like when you had to buy the full set of Rock Band equipment with the first game.  Beyond that, the rest of the crap they showed with Kinect looked terrible, but if I limit it to Just Dance and anything else that might pop up I'm fine with it.
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#19  Edited By emkeighcameron
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" http://www.pcauthority.com.au/News/218829,opinion-is-pc-gaming-set-for-a-comeback.aspx   I think it's time to jump ship.  Consoles are "absolutely over" to paraphrase Prince. "
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#20  Edited By rdav1109
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#21  Edited By apoptosis61

yeah maybe sony and microsoft fans dont like it, but they will buy it and praise these products at forums.You know why?  cause they want to 'finish' the wii madness

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#22  Edited By toowalrus
@Meowayne said:
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 That's why Wii does not do well in the shooter area.

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I have, they're like the xbox versions, if they got kicked in the balls.The Wii's strengths are elsewhere, I'd rather play Wario Ware than Modern Warfare.
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#23  Edited By rdav1109
@TooWalrus said:
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 That's why Wii does not do well in the shooter area.

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I have, they're like the xbox versions, if they got kicked in the balls.The Wii's strengths are elsewhere, I'd rather play Wario Ware than Modern Warfare. "
I agree with the first part, though I also think WarioWare sucks. (Sorry I really hate Nintendo, I only like Mario Kart)
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#24  Edited By luce
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#25  Edited By AlwaysAngry
@rdav1109: I do not approve of your avatar T.T
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#26  Edited By meteora
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#27  Edited By Akeldama
@Monkeygb21 said:
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I hate to admit it but Leigh Alexander made a good point on the Bombcast.   Anyone who would be into this crap already bought the Wii.  

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She was saying that about Kinect. She agreed with me in that Sony is at least using the controller for games we care about. MS has shown nothing but wii like games thus far. At least Sony is doing what we all wished the wii did back when it launched.
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#28  Edited By rdav1109
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My boobies are better than your boobies.
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#29  Edited By ProfessorEss

I have no interest in either, but my wife was very intrigued by Kinect.
 
I wouldn't be surprised if she drops the 200 bucks just for Dance Central.

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#30  Edited By CptBedlam
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#31  Edited By Xtrememuffinman

The Move is a Wii HD, so people who want to play a better Wii without Nintendo games can hop ship. But Wii without Nintendo is kinda useless...
 
As for Kinect...I think if they let you sit down and use a 360 controller or some kind of nunchuk, it could work for somethings. Moving with the analog stick and moving your body while necessary. And sitting, can't forget sitting.

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#32  Edited By AlwaysAngry
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My boobies are better than your boobies. "
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#33  Edited By RetroIce4
@AlwaysAngry said:
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My boobies are better than your boobies. "
Yours look fake. Also, to stay on topic - 
 
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#34  Edited By Azteck
@TooWalrus said:
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 That's why Wii does not do well in the shooter area.

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I have, they're like the xbox versions, if they got kicked in the balls.The Wii's strengths are elsewhere, I'd rather play Wario Ware than Modern Warfare. "
Nice rhyme, son.
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#35  Edited By rdav1109
@RetroIce4 said:
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My boobies are better than your boobies. "
Yours look fake.
 
Psssshhhh you know you can tell they're real? One's bigger than the other! HA!