#1 Edited by TheDudeOfGaming (6078 posts) -

Or should it be general discussion? I'll leave it in off-topic just to be safe, and I apologize if this has already been posted...I'm too dumb to use the search function.

Anyway, fucked up. Just a really fucked up murder. An 18 year old decides to kill his father with the help of a 20 year old he met playing CoD, for the 50 million euro inheritance. First they tried to kill him by offering him cake filled with sleeping pills. That failed so they killed him using a spiked baseball bat and a speaker. It's reported that the victim has been hit 40 times with the spiked baseball bat. After they staged it to look like a break-in gone wrong.

Unfortunately for the suspects investigators found blood on their clothes and they are now in custody.

http://kotaku.com/spiked-bat-inspired-by-dead-rising-2-used-in-gruesome-s-786804341?utm_campaign=Socialflow_Kotaku_Facebook&utm_source=Kotaku_Facebook&utm_medium=Socialflow

http://www.polygon.com/2013/7/15/4525578/spanish-teen-dead-rising-2-bat-murder-weapon

Nothing to do with gaming, apart from the murder weapon(s). The real blame lies with the sociopath/psychopath teens that decided to off the father using a rather brutal method.

And fuck Rich (or whatever his name is) for saying he likes Kotaku. But not really. Anyway, discuss.

PS. Fox will have a field day covering this...should they choose to.

#2 Posted by Humanity (9062 posts) -

Yah, young people are pretty fucking stupid.

#3 Posted by ll_Exile_ll (1630 posts) -

Dead Rising didn't invent improvised weaponry. Spiked bats have existed long before video games ever did. Even if they did get the idea for the weapon from the game, they obviously were intent on killing him anyway, since it was their second attempt. They would have found something to use as a weapon with or without the game. Anyone trying to tie this to games is either looking for a scapegoat or already has an anti video game agenda.

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#4 Posted by TheDudeOfGaming (6078 posts) -

Dead Rising didn't invent improvised weaponry. Spiked bats have existed long before video games ever did. Even if they did get the idea for the weapon from the game, they obviously were intent on killing him anyway, since it was their second attempt. They would have found something to use as a weapon with or without the game. Anyone trying to tie this to games is either looking for a scapegoat or already has an anti video game agenda.

Isn't that the case anytime someone tries to link real world violence with fictional video game violence?

#5 Posted by falserelic (5413 posts) -

I wonder why he hated him so badly, and went so far to meet someone online to assist him. Hmmm can't say that this stuff surprises me, feels like it happens alot. Especially with spoiled ungrateful kids..

#6 Posted by doejonathan (172 posts) -

People get murdered with kitchen knives yet nobody blames cooking. It's odd a game site would run this story (I'm looking at you Polygon. Kotaku.. not so much).

#7 Edited by TheDudeOfGaming (6078 posts) -

@falserelic said:

I wonder why he hated him so badly, and went so far to meet someone online to assist him. Hmmm can't say that this stuff surprises me, feels like it happens alot. Especially with spoiled ungrateful kids..

50 million euros is a lot of fucking money. But if the kid wasn't such a dense fucker he could have just waited. The youth of today has the patience of a man who hasn't been laid for 10 years and had just popped a viagra pill. So I can only assume that the kid is either really impatient or there are other underlying motives.

@doejonathan said:

People get murdered with kitchen knives yet nobody blames cooking. It's odd a game site would run this story (I'm looking at you Polygon. Kotaku.. not so much).

It's news worthy. And it is kind of related to gaming, despite the motive having nothing to do with it. Besides, better Polygon and Kotaku than Fox news.

#8 Posted by ll_Exile_ll (1630 posts) -

@ll_exile_ll said:

Dead Rising didn't invent improvised weaponry. Spiked bats have existed long before video games ever did. Even if they did get the idea for the weapon from the game, they obviously were intent on killing him anyway, since it was their second attempt. They would have found something to use as a weapon with or without the game. Anyone trying to tie this to games is either looking for a scapegoat or already has an anti video game agenda.

Isn't that the case anytime someone tries to link real world violence with fictional video game violence?

Well, yeah. But the connection here is even more tenuous than in most of these types of stories.

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#9 Posted by doejonathan (172 posts) -

@thedudeofgaming: I'm not saying it's not news worthy. A family tragedy like this is news worthy to either local, regional or (inter)national news outlets. However, when videogame sites report on this it might look like an admittance of guilt that there is a correlation between violence and games. I don't see it this way, but you know... Fox.

And like you said, the motive wasn't inspired by Dead Rising, just the means. I don't see MLB related sites covering any baseball bat related crimes.

#10 Edited by Dagbiker (6974 posts) -

When someone duct tapes a chainsaw to the end of a speir, or drives over a hundred people in a mall only to jump out an start hitting everyone with a sandwitch board. or starts shooting people with the mega buster. Then i might buy the Dead Rising relation. until then, im just going to say that this is a case of some reporter hearing something on the news and the first thing he thinks is

"Cool, its just like my favorite video game..."

( so really, I think this less shows that the murder has lost touch with reality, and more that the "Reporter" has, in that the closest relation he can draw to someone being killed is a video game)

#11 Posted by TheDudeOfGaming (6078 posts) -

@doejonathan: @dagbiker: Yep of course. But I still think it should be posted and discussed because I'm... bored right now. I'll probably go play some New Vegas. Anyway I should clarify that I don't think Dead Rising or any other game had any influence on the murderers suspects and the title is just click bait. Doesn't seem to be working :(

I should probably visit Kotaku more often.

#12 Posted by Dagbiker (6974 posts) -

@doejonathan: @dagbiker: Yep of course. But I still think it should be posted and discussed because I'm... bored right now. I'll probably go play some New Vegas. Anyway I should clarify that I don't think Dead Rising or any other game had any influence on the murderers suspects and the title is just click bait. Doesn't seem to be working :(

I should probably visit Kotaku more often.

I have no problem with you discussing it.

#13 Edited by ThunderSlash (1691 posts) -

Sounds like money inspired murder to me.

#14 Posted by Sonmi (21 posts) -

Spiked bat = Immediately video game inspired.

Yeah... no, I wouldn't blame video games or even mention Dead Rising at all, they were hardly the first to use spiked baseball bats.

#15 Posted by JasonR86 (9659 posts) -

I have a feeling everything has inspired murder. Also the murdering part of murder, and less what inspired it, is the fucked up part to me.

Not that I want to undermind this thread or anything. Just saying.

#16 Posted by mlarrabee (2927 posts) -

So far there doesn't seem to be any information regarding when the young man began planning the murder, but the spiked bat was made two months before as homemade Dead Rising 2 memorabilia.

If the decision and planning occurred after he made it, it appears its video game connections are coincidental.

Such a sick, little creep.

#17 Posted by EpicSteve (6483 posts) -

Even if the weapon of choice was inspired by a videogame I don't really think that matters. They would've just murdered him a different way if the game never existed.

#18 Posted by Wrighteous86 (3782 posts) -

@sonmi said:

Spiked bat = Immediately video game inspired.

Yeah... no, I wouldn't blame video games or even mention Dead Rising at all, they were hardly the first to use spiked baseball bats.

He said he got the idea from Dead Rising, so it was video game inspired.

But yes, other things have portrayed spike bats before Dead Rising.

#19 Posted by joshwent (2175 posts) -

Guys, his dad was a zombie right?

#20 Posted by Sooty (8082 posts) -

@joshwent said:

Guys, his dad was a zombie right?

He wasn't. But he might come back as one now. And eat the two that killed him.

Now that's a film worth making.

#21 Posted by PeasantAbuse (5138 posts) -

Forgotten Hope was the best mod.

#22 Edited by Chaser324 (6433 posts) -

People have been committing financially motivated murder since pretty much the beginning of time, long before video games ever existed. The means for committing that murder may have been inspired by a video game, but I don't think that really matters. It certainly doesn't provide any meaningful support for the Jack Thompson types that want to make a causal link between video games and violence (...not that things like logical fallacies have stopped them in the past).

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