@theacidskull said:
@n7: Interesting stuff you got there, but I have some questions about what you just said. If Kidman is supposed to have let Ruvik out, why was she so determined to killed leslie? Her goal was to keep Ruvki as far away as possible from the poor dude so I'm not quite sure where she exactly decided to let Ruvki off the hook. It just doesn't add up. Clearly she entered the STEM world through other means too, since in the end it was shown that she wasn't really hooked up to anything.
It's possible that she looked at Ruvik at the end of the game but it's just as possible that she looked at Sebastian and told him to be quite. Either ways, it'a hard to tell. Though If I'm being honest, the Ruvik theory, while possible, doesn't seem to add up with Kidmans initial motivations. Plus, Kidman seemed to have some respect for Sebastian as she tells him that he's indeed a good man so again, it's hard to determine her stance based on what we've seen so far, since there are just too many variables. But like you said, Kidman has a two part DLC campaign so hopefully it'll elucidate some things.
She didn't let him(Ruvik) out, she let Sebastian out. See, the problem here lies with the old issue of "Are collectibles in video games something the character themselves reads through and understands, or is it just narrative salt and pepper for the player and only the player?" because there are quite a few documents you pick up that could lead Sebastian to a couple of conclusions that he never comes to. So while Kiddman eventually learns that Ruvik wants Leslie so he can transfer into him and escape into the real world, Sebastian doesn't get that.
Also, I should totally warn you, this next thing I'm going to talk about might sound completely idiotic and stupid, but bare with me, I promise I will make my point.
At the beginning of the game you find a document, one of the first collectibles. It gives you the first taste of what this "STEM" is. It's called "Boiler room note" and in it, it explains that they were doing a STEM system operation test. Then it goes on to say "Anomaly occurs. Not with the subject; the stenographer claimed they weren't feeling well and then fell into a coma for reasons unknown. Doctors order the STEM system terminated." they then go on to say "Staff begin complaining of nausea and falling unconscious one after another. Those who can still move plan their escape from the hospital but for unknown reasons are unable to. Though the STEM system should have been deactivated, subjects maintained brain wave synchronization with the host." and finally "He... that man appeared."
Something went wrong and the STEM began affecting people... uh, wirelessly. They weren't hooked up, but they were pulled in regardless. So, my original theory, while long and drawn out(And almost immediately disproven) was that this was going to be some sort of weapon, and it accidentally went out and just so happened to connect to the mind of a madman. That was not what ended up happening though.
Now, again, bare with me, I'm making my way to a point. For the sake of argument, let's say that while active, the STEM can affect people wirelessly, that it somehow sends signals to people, knocks them into a coma but maintains the brain wave sync with the system(I mean, I say "let's say", but the document just confirmed that this is a thing that can happen). With that information, let us go over what Nolan North's character said later on in the game(This time I'm paraphrasing because it's not a cutscene so I've got no idea where to look). He explains that Ruvik must have been desperate to destroy a STEM terminal. Point here, "a STEM terminal". That implies, to me, that there are more of them. So this could easily explain how Leslie was able to get out of the hospital underneath Kiddman and the Organization's noise.
I know, that's a dumb answer "Oh, he was just somewhere else". But really, it was either that or he wasn't at a terminal, but rather somewhere else in the hospital and he just broke out once he woke up in Leslie's body. Now, that also sounds kind of dumb and a little anticlimactic, but there is evidence to this: Leslie not only has broken out of the STEM machine before, but he has also escaped the hospital before. With Ruvik's cruel intentions and Leslie's memories, it's easy to think that he could have just, simply put, found a backdoor and gone through it.
Perhaps when Sebastian saw Leslie(Who is now completely under the control of Ruvik) walking away, it was Ruvik's way of taunting him. "You can't keep me here". The implication of course, as he simply then disappears, is pretty much confirmation that he's somehow taken control of the STEM system and brought his powers into the real world. Some sort of Freddy Kruger type deal.
And to a final point, since Ruvik was the one who created STEM, and is the heir to a magnitude of wealth, it's entirely possible that he will continue his research and continue to build STEM machines. That's all conjecture, mind you, but we can only unravel this stuff by talking it out, and apparently I have a lot to say.
Personally I find it really fun to talk about this stuff. Everywhere you look, there's more stuff to find.
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