The fine folks over at the Dustloop forums were granted some hands-on time with the game at the Atlus offices and have provided us with a few tidbits on the finer mechanics of the fighting engine. Some of these details are probably only going to be meaningful to you if you know what terms like Okizeme mean but if you have any questions I can do my best to try and break it down for you. Here's what was learned:
- You cannot wake up backdash, there is a small window where you simply won't backdash at all. This is similar to BB's cant-backdash-immediately on landing introduced in CS1 onwards. You can still use roll, B+D, wakeup super, etc just fine.
- There is no manual quick getup. The only ground option is to neutral tech or wait for your character to automatically quick getup.
- The quick getup animation is cancelable into ANYTHING, including blocking. So you can't punish this at all, you either hit them while theyre knocked down, or you let them get back up.
Counter Hit Properties
- CH with normals, throws, and specials adds 10% more damage to the first attack, but it's not consistently so. It seems that some multi hitting attacks (such as yukiko's 5C or mitsuru's ground throw) do get 10% bonus damage on all hits, while others (such as Kanji's command throw) do not. only the first hit of kanji's command throw (where he tosses you to the wall and does 250ish damage) gets the 10% bonus.
- CH with supers add 20% more damage. Similar inconsistencies found as above.
- CH with throw adds more untech time
- Fatals follow the same rules for damage bonus. Forgot to test things regarding wallstick/bounce and fatals
Jumping, Air Options
- You can not block for the first 5 or so frames once you are airborne. This makes 5As good for anti-chicken block. Double jumps do not suffer this penalty.
- You regain all your air options (air dashes, double jumps) after you air normal block, air instant block, air ukemi, or break air throws
- You can hold the button to air ukemi asap. This means you can stop piano-ing buttons during opponents combos
- Like GG, you can not Superjump > double jump. You can only air dash after a super jump. (unless you regain your air options as described above
- Short hop appears to have Foot attribute invul on Frame 1.
- You can not jump or air dash during short hop, even if you RC an attack.
- You can not block during short hop at all.
- Short hop has landing recovery.
- forgot to test if throw invul in Frame 1
- like BB, you can input things during super freeze and they execute immediately afterwards
- No negative edging of specials
- We could not tell if there was a hold-button-to-repeat-input thing like BB or if you could input dashes early like BB. It's pretty hard to test given that we aren't familiar with character's combos or frame data.
- You need to input 22 to do 22 motions. Mikey (the soCal carl player) described it to me that carls use some special 32 input to summon nirvana during combos, but that doesn't seem to be an option ehre. In either case, I don't understand it well enough to explain it any better haha. Ask a carl player what he's talking about!
- mashing 4A will not give you the auto combo. Your character will simply do 5A and not cancel into anything. Mashing 6A will do the auto combo. Exception: Mitsuru can mash 4A for the auto combo (likely so she can charge a drill).
- the super armor on A+B attacks will not guard against super attacks
- Minimum Damage on supers appears to be 30% for most, but iirc we found a few that were 20%
- Damage scaling will push damage of things down to 0, just like BB
- some persona attacks will auto correct to attack in the direction of the opponent, even if you jump and air turn to face away from the opponent such as Teddie's j.C.
- Teddie can hold down the item throw button to throw 2 items at once.
- Teddie's persona wind up animation for item throwing has a hitbox haha. hits multiple times
- No super cancel on whiff
- No TRM
- the last normal of an auto combo (5AAA for most chars) gives you 12 or 13 meter and refil a part of your burst gauge (1/8th?)
- forgot to test how long SP gauge cooldown lasts.