I think they already have released the keys, so this is just Sony banging its chest and pretending it has some control over its customers.
Since when is doing what you want to something you own illegal? If I wanted to turn my toaster into a rakish hat, I'd be an idiot (or maybe a genius), but it'd be my legal right to do so if I wished. If Sony's business model can't deal with their customers doing what they want to their PS3s, that's a problem with their business model and not their customers.
I don't think Sony have a leg to stand on. Especially since the majority of the team members are not US citizens and jailbreaking is legal. And how naive does a company have to be in order for them to think they can stop the spread of this? It's the fucking internet.
ITs the 10NES chip all over again I guess. Sony owns the rights to the information, even if you buy the hardware. Still, this is silly given that the information is out there and PS3 software has been pirateable for more than 6 months already. Hurting these guys won't get Sony anywhere, because it isn't likely to be a deterrent.
I don't think it will do anything. Really it is just a press stunt to show Sony do not want people breaking into their systems and you'll be punished if you do. Which everyone knows already but taking legal action shows no tolerance. Very much like that poor Australian fellow who got sued millions for uploading a DS game.
I agree that Sony's actions are probably symbolic rather than expected to accomplish any significant reduction in hacking.
One thing about trademarks (and possibly patents, I'm not sure) is that a company/organization must actively defend their claim over a logo and/or brand or they risk losing the trademark. It could be that Sony is simply reacting to a threat to the brand in a way that demonstrates that the company is aware of the issue and does not condone it. This way, when future challenges come up, Sony can point to past actions of attempting to protect the brand. I think they are just covering all the bases, IMO.
I feel bad for Sony. The PSP is the best handheld ever made in my opinion but because of hackers and pirates the system essentially lost all support. Hopefully it won't happen to the PS3 but it looks like that's what's about to happen. The hackers claimed they did this cause Sony removed other OS but Sony did that because Geohot hacked the system through that in the first place.
" Stupid, suing the people that found your monumental fuckup. Nother reason not to own a ps3. "How was that a fuckup? It's been on the market 5 years and it took this long for it to be hacked. How also is in a reason to not buy a PS3? It really shouldn't affect you if you don't plan on pirating games.
" @Leptok said:It boils down to the fact that they used the same random number for all their encryption, which rendered it all useless. Just skip to 7 min in." Stupid, suing the people that found your monumental fuckup. Nother reason not to own a ps3. "How was that a fuckup? It's been on the market 5 years and it took this long for it to be hacked. How also is in a reason to not buy a PS3? It really shouldn't affect you if you don't plan on pirating games. "
" @mikey87144 said:It might not seem obvious to everyone here when you look at how it only got hacked after 5 years, but what actually happened here was monumentally stupid on Sony's part. There is no point in your security system if you do not use random numbers in the parameters where it actually requires a random number. Anyone with some passing knowledge in cryptography will tell you this, while experts will most likely murder you if you ask them about this basic fact." @Leptok said:It boils down to the fact that they used the same random number for all their encryption, which rendered it all useless. Just skip to 7 min in." Stupid, suing the people that found your monumental fuckup. Nother reason not to own a ps3. "How was that a fuckup? It's been on the market 5 years and it took this long for it to be hacked. How also is in a reason to not buy a PS3? It really shouldn't affect you if you don't plan on pirating games. "
" @Leptok: Yes, the fuck-up is well known, thanks for pointing that out. To re-iterate Mikey's points: 1. It has taken 5 years to crack; the fuck-up was not monumental. Can it even be implemented practically yet? 2. Why is it a reason to not own a PS3? "
1. It has taken 5 years to crack; the fuck-up was not monumental. Can it even be implemented practically yet?It is monumental, and completely practical. This allows you to sign absolutely anything; executables, firmware updates, you name it. Whatever uses these signatures can be used on any existing PS3. The only fix is to somehow invalidate all these exposed signatures, which isn't reasonable as that would make the millions of PS3 software out there useless.
Sony's under an obligation to it's shareholders and business partners to protect their interests, which involves going to court over pointless and silly shit sometimes. They can't just sit back and do nothing. I support the homebrew community and all that, but for them to release the keys all willy-nilly is like opening pandora's box. They might not condone piracy, but you can bet some asshole is working on a backup manager right now.
Also, for anyone considering hacking their PS3 I'd be incredibly hesitant. No one knows what kind of measures Sony has in place to ban your console or who knows what else. If you're going to do it, do yourself a favor and stay offline.
Because no one actually knows what kind of security measures Sony has in place for the PlayStation Network. I'm no expert on the subject matter, but it seems to be pretty likely that if you're using a custom firmware and connecting to the PlayStation Network there's a chance they'd be able to tell, and who knows what kind of things they're going to put in future firmware updates. If you're planning on running homebrew on your console, I'd highly suggest reading this piece by Digital Foundry which raises a lot of questions about what kind of power Sony does have in this situation.
" @benjaebe: But how would they know if you have a hacked system? This hack uses the code that Sony uses to make sure things are verified correctly - if I'm not mistaken, isn't it like using a Loader in an illegal copy of Windows? After using a Loader you're able to download all Windows updates and go online because they think you have a genuine copy. "
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