Any idea when 1.8 Firmware is coming out (gives us PS1 Classics?)

#1 Posted by Vrikk (893 posts) -

Title says it all. All I've heard is "summer".

Also, are they going to release the game compatibility in groups? I hope not... that was infuriating when the 360 did it with Xbox original games.

#2 Posted by Jimi (1126 posts) -

Nope. they haven't said when it will be coming out.

I heard they are using a group system, this is an unverified source but I remember a guy at e3 asked one of the guys at the sony booth a lot of questions about this and he said they would be doing staggered releases. Take that for what you will.

#3 Posted by wilsouk (34 posts) -

PS1 classics I'm looking forward to as I missed out on most of them, but not adding PS2 catalogue is really a missed opportunity especially seen as they are coming to PS3

#4 Posted by Vrikk (893 posts) -

The Vita, I imagine, is not strong enough to emulate PS2 games.

#5 Posted by wilsouk (34 posts) -

I might be wrong, but didn't Sony initially say the Vita was going to emulate PS2 games?

#6 Posted by LethalKi11ler (1406 posts) -

@wilsouk: Sadly wrong :( They've come out a few times saying it won't emulate PS2 and (duh!) PS3 games.

#7 Posted by mtcantor (947 posts) -

@Vrikk said:

The Vita, I imagine, is not strong enough to emulate PS2 games.

It has enough power. Whether they want to bother setting up the software to do it is another matter.

#8 Posted by Hizang (8533 posts) -

How about you just go and buy a PS1 and play it, problem solved.

#9 Posted by Zacagawea (1587 posts) -

@Hizang said:

How about you just go and buy a PS1 and play it, problem solved.

Way to miss the entire point of a portable system.

And also how inconvenient and more expensive to have to track down a PS and the games you want. Not to mention a waste of space.

#10 Posted by Hizang (8533 posts) -

@Zacagawea: I think the majority of people would be better off with buying a PS1 instead of a Vita, easily.

#11 Posted by OwnlyUzinWonHan (1478 posts) -

I just want to be able to get Playstation Plus for my Vita, is that coming with the 1.8 update too?

#12 Posted by GooieGreen (453 posts) -

@Hizang: if you only want to play your old disc copies of PS1 games and their associated memory cards, then yeah. But that isn't the case with a lot of users. I didn't have that big of a PS1 collection to begin with so I've picked up a few digital games along the way (and another copy of FF9 because it is a boss-ass game). Sure I can play it on my PSPgo <insertcriticismhere> but why be limited to that?

#13 Posted by Vrikk (893 posts) -

@Hizang said:

How about you just go and buy a PS1 and play it, problem solved.

You missed the entire point of portability, as has been stated.

I can't lug my PS2 slim around with me on the car, or on a family trip when I have a few hours to myself. But thanks for playing.

#14 Posted by LiquidPrince (15896 posts) -

@Vrikk said:

The Vita, I imagine, is not strong enough to emulate PS2 games.

This is false... I think.

#15 Posted by Vrikk (893 posts) -

@LiquidPrince: The problem is that for GOOD emulation the system that is hosting it needs to be exponentially stronger than the original system.

#16 Posted by RustySanderke (117 posts) -

@mtcantor said:

@Vrikk said:

The Vita, I imagine, is not strong enough to emulate PS2 games.

It has enough power. Whether they want to bother setting up the software to do it is another matter.

It could definetely handle PS2 ports. Emulation, however, requires the Vita to emulate the emotion engine chip at full speed while simultaneously running the game.

#17 Posted by BlackLagoon (1403 posts) -

@mtcantor said:

@Vrikk said:

The Vita, I imagine, is not strong enough to emulate PS2 games.

It has enough power. Whether they want to bother setting up the software to do it is another matter.

We don't know that exactly - even though it's much more powerful than a PS2, emulation requires a lot of power, especially for exotic hardware like the Graphics Synthesizer (which had better specs in some areas than current gen GPUs). Heck, emulating PS2 games on the PS3 was thought to be impossible until recently, and nobody's quite figured out what kind of crazy magic Sony's been working to make the games run. It could happen, but with the Gaikai deal, I'm sure they're also looking at streaming as a way to get non-native games onto the Vita.

#18 Posted by Brodehouse (9760 posts) -

Thanks to this thread I realized I can force my PS3 to play PS1 games in full screen by forcing it into 480p resolution before I load up the game. I was playing Tony Hawk 2 on my Goddamn PS2 because I didn't want to play in a small box.

#19 Posted by Dagbiker (6956 posts) -
#20 Posted by Shakezula84 (443 posts) -

I liked playing PS One classics on my PSP, and playing them on my Vita was a feature I was looking forward too. This whole releasing them only a few at a time is lame. I have PS One games I already own and I'm ready to play, plus a couple I didn't buy because I didn't want to play the game on a system missing an analog stick and two shoulder buttons (when remote play was first shown off with Killzone, they said the back touch would emulate R2 and L2).

#21 Posted by gunslingerNZ (1901 posts) -

So will this update allow us to play PS1 classics that we've purchased on the Vita? I bought MGS1 a while back but never got around to playing it on my PS3 since it looks kinda rubbish blown up on a big screen. It would be the perfect handheld experience though and a great follow up to playing Peacewalker.

#22 Posted by VaddixBell (236 posts) -

Does anyone know how PS One games got from Playstation Plus will work on Vita? Will it just not work or will there be a system where it will authenticate before it launches to ensure you're still a PS+ member?

#23 Posted by Gerhabio (1977 posts) -

I seriously can't think of a single PS One game I'd like to play.

PS2 is another matter...

#24 Posted by BlackLagoon (1403 posts) -

@VaddixBell said:

Does anyone know how PS One games got from Playstation Plus will work on Vita? Will it just not work or will there be a system where it will authenticate before it launches to ensure you're still a PS+ member?

Minis gotten from Plus work fine as long as they've been certified as Vita compatible by Sony, I would assume the same would be true for PSOne titles.

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