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Posted by BasketSnake

Einstein?

Posted by Chuncho_Munos

To me cosplay is just,another genre of softcore porn.....and for that, I am ashamed :(

Posted by Homelessbird

To me cosplay is just,another genre of softcore porn.....and for that, I am ashamed :(

COVER YOUR SHAME SON

Edited by ILikePopCans

Thats a sweet bow

Also, I'm already sick of people saying "spoiler" throwaway-able in a sentences.

Posted by WalkmanBoy

Really interesting listen, thanks Scoops and Maddy!

Posted by Video_Game_King

To me cosplay is just,another genre of softcore porn.....

This is getting me all kinds of sort of aroused.

Posted by Roxxy

As someone who just went to the Second largest furry convention in the US, This is very interesting c=

Edited by EXTomar

Fun discussion!

Posted by Rustafur

This is exactly why they shouldn't bring back quests.

First?

Bring back quests! :)

Posted by Yummylee

@chuncho_munos said:

To me cosplay is just,another genre of softcore porn.....

This is getting me all kinds of sort of aroused.

While I'm sure you're joking, you may (or not) be surprised to learn that Pyramid Head has grown into something of a cult sex icon. Of course, you could probably say that about a lot of fictional characters...

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Posted by lightsoda

That was great, good interview.

Posted by Video_Game_King

@yummylee said:

While I'm sure you're joking, you may (or not) be surprised to learn that Pyramid Head has grown into something of a cult sex icon. Of course, you could probably say that about a lot of fictional characters...

Edited by AMyggen

Great interview, learnt alot about a subject I knew very little about. An interesting sub culture of gaming/anime for sure.

Edited by Brodehouse

The desire to gain other people's attention and be seen as attractive.

The drive behind almost all human interaction.

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Edited by Three0neFive
@brodehouse said:

The desire to gain other people's attention and be seen as attractive.

The drive behind almost all human interaction.

Some would say this is kind of a reductive way of looking at it, but yeah.

I just don't understand why people get so offended when you point this out. It's a mutually beneficial relationship - you put yourself out there in the public sphere wearing cool outfits that generally showcase your body, you get validation while having fun and we get some eyecandy (that isn't necessarily sexual in nature.)

People like to say that it's wrong to objectify cosplayers, but that is literally the entire point. You are using your body as an object to showcase your costume and skills (though that shouldn't and doesn't preclude you from deserving the same basic respect others get.)

Edited by Nakirendral

This is really interesting, as someone who has learned to really love his trip to DragonCon every year, I am starting to really get intrigued by the idea of cosplay. The "biggest" cosplay I have done involve zombification, which I think is just lazy. This really has gotten the bug back into me to try and create something interesting for next DragonCon. Thanks, Patrick!

Edited by Shaanyboi

Interesting talk.

My girlfriend dressed up as Tali from Mass Effect recently. We've been to other conventions here in the city, with her usually as far less complicated stuff like Black Cat etc. But the entire process of her working on her Tali costume has been an interesting experience to see up close. Whether it's for "attention" or not, it's well deserved at times considering how fucking hard some of this shit is to make and what lengths people go to to get these outfits to work.

Edited by Brodehouse

@three0nefive: People take a negative reaction towards admitting it because it requires one to be honest about their vanity and their desire to have others like them. Parents don't teach children that looks aren't everything, they teach them that 'looks don't matter'. So when presented with situations in which looks very clearly are all that matters, everyone fights against their own repression. Admitting that you dressed this way in order to get your preferred response is seen as an admission of a character flaw; vanity, dependence, narcissism.

This is also where 'slutshaming' comes from. Rather than be told that sexual value is ethically neutral, they're told that sexual value is unethical. So they see people demonstrating their sexual value to be abhorrent, because how dare they?

I want others to think of me as intelligent. I intentionally dress to foster this. Nothing would change if I wanted to be seen as sexy. Or rich. Or nerdy. Or tough.

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Posted by Atwa

Cosplay is so dumb

Edited by phantom_3d

cosplaying to me just attention seeking but do appreciate time put into craft and items they create just wish did it for other reasons other then attention seeking. world needs more problem solvers.

will admit to sometimes guessing people's costumes wrong with really old or bizarre answer to annoy them but if didn't come up to me i would leave them be there too obsessed with getting attention.

Posted by Enns

If you guys enjoyed this give Robert's a shot.

Posted by GaspoweR

@yummylee said:

While I'm sure you're joking, you may (or not) be surprised to learn that Pyramid Head has grown into something of a cult sex icon. Of course, you could probably say that about a lot of fictional characters...

Should have added Cult Sex Icon as a caption

Posted by Yummylee

@yummylee said:

While I'm sure you're joking, you may (or not) be surprised to learn that Pyramid Head has grown into something of a cult sex icon. Of course, you could probably say that about a lot of fictional characters...

Pun intended.

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Posted by Video_Game_King
Edited by Brodehouse

@video_game_king: Because people are capable of pretending at all times. If all you want to do is dress up, you would dress up and that would be that. Sitting at home with your Cammy leotard. These people are dressing up and attending large shows not just to dress up, but to be seen. Even if they only like playing the character, they like playing the character in public. They wouldn't do it if there was no one to interact with.

Human beings crave the attention of other human beings. This isn't the terrible condemnation people take it as. Even self-expression requires an audience, by definition.

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Posted by Video_Game_King

If all you want to do is dress up, you would dress up and that would be that. Sitting at home with your Cammy leotard.

I have the most depressing image in my mind right now. I hope you're happy.

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Posted by DeadpanCakes

Haven't listened to this yet, as today is rather busy, but this's a topic I'm interested in hearing about without all the internet involved.

I own a set of Chie's buttons. I wear them around the house, sometimes. That's about as close as I've gotten to this subject.

Also, to the person who ironically posted a picture of Pyramid head, I stumbled upon a softcore erotic picture of Pyramid head once. It was weird.

Posted by DickSocrates

Have only just started playing this episode, but for some reason I'm predicting tales of misery and heartache. "I dress like this because my entire family was killed in a fire when I was 3".

Edited by pingolobo

I strongly disagree with the idea that female characters are over-sexualised compared to the male ones. I think that, in a generalization, women like to be and feel sexy as men like to be or feel strong.

I will acknowledge that Japan does its own thing but that aside, Lara Croft looks like someone that would be on the cover of Cosmopolitan; I doubt many men read that magazine since it's aimed at women. Kratos or Conan, for example, are super powerful and muscular (and both are more naked than most females anywhere) just like many men like to feel.

The Gears of War guys are covered in armor but still are built like roided up freaks.

Posted by Shaanyboi

I strongly disagree with the idea that female characters are over-sexualised compared to the male ones. I think that, in a generalization, women like to be and feel sexy as men like to be or feel strong.

I will acknowledge that Japan does its own thing but that aside, Lara Croft looks like someone that would be on the cover of Cosmopolitan; I doubt many men read that magazine since it's aimed at women. Kratos or Conan, for example, are super powerful and muscular (and both are more naked than most females anywhere) just like many men like to feel.

The Gears of War guys are covered in armor but still are built like roided up freaks.

Except male characters are more or less given different body types, different shapes, different features. Yeah, there's the bald space marine stigma, but generally speaking, male characters have far more diversity, and they certainly doesn't lean on that character's sexuality nearly as heavily. Most female characters boil down to the same slim, sexy look, probably busty, and probably half-dressed (or often revealing as much cleavage as possible). Yeah, there are exceptions, but they are certainly not the norm.

Edited by EvilKatarn

Cosplay is great. Didn't think much of it before, but when I went to my first con this year I realized it's a ton of fun and work. I'll definitely try my hand at it in the future.

@shaanyboi said:

Except male characters are more or less given different body types, different shapes, different features. Yeah, there's the bald space marine stigma, but generally speaking, male characters have far more diversity, and they certainly doesn't lean on that character's sexuality nearly as heavily. Most female characters boil down to the same slim, sexy look, probably busty, and probably half-dressed (or often revealing as much cleavage as possible). Yeah, there are exceptions, but they are certainly not the norm.

Except female characters are more or less given different ages, varied designs and interesting characterizations. Yeah, there's the blonde bombshell stigma, but generally speaking, female characters have far more diversity, and they certainly don't lean on that character's dull machoness as heavily. Most male characters boil down to the same wide-shouldered, defined, bald look. Yeah, there are exceptions, but they are certainly not the norm.

Posted by Shaanyboi

@shaanyboi said:

Except male characters are more or less given different body types, different shapes, different features. Yeah, there's the bald space marine stigma, but generally speaking, male characters have far more diversity, and they certainly doesn't lean on that character's sexuality nearly as heavily. Most female characters boil down to the same slim, sexy look, probably busty, and probably half-dressed (or often revealing as much cleavage as possible). Yeah, there are exceptions, but they are certainly not the norm.

Except female characters are more or less given different ages, varied designs and interesting characterizations. Yeah, there's the blonde bombshell stigma, but generally speaking, female characters have far more diversity, and they certainly don't lean on that character's dull machoness as heavily. Most male characters boil down to the same wide-shouldered, defined, bald look. Yeah, there are exceptions, but they are certainly not the norm.

This is the equivalent of a child repeating back everything his/her parent says in an attempt to get under their skin. It doesn't contribute to any form of discussion and it's flat out ignoring the reality of the points being made. In fact it ignores the entire issue about gender representation.

Posted by Hobotalk

@shaanyboi:

I think @evilkatarn was making the point that the same could be said about female characters (and I would largely agree). You lacked any evidence for your claim and you have tried to discard his argument as invalid and not contributing to the discussion but it's his opinion as the previous post is yours.

Posted by EvilKatarn

This is the equivalent of a child repeating back everything his/her parent says in an attempt to get under their skin. It doesn't contribute to any form of discussion and it's flat out ignoring the reality of the points being made. In fact it ignores the entire issue about gender representation.

No, this is the equivalent of me replying to a boring cookie cutter 'me too' statement that has been regurgitated a million times. Also it is my honest opinion, it contributes an opposing viewpoint to the discussion and you most definitely do not get the freedom to state that what you said is a reality of anything.

I don't even know why I'm being so confrontational about this. Maybe because I rolled down to the comments dreading to see a discussion about this fucking thing again and then boom, there it was. People just couldn't have talked about costumes and conventions and shit.

Posted by HellknightLeon

I hate the internet.

Posted by Jedted

@kaincarver said:

The only good thing about Cosplay are the hot chicks; and they're far and few between.

Either you're not going to the right conventions or you have really high standards. You got a thing against chubby cosplay girls or something?

Edited by Khann

@jedted said:

@kaincarver said:

The only good thing about Cosplay are the hot chicks; and they're far and few between.

Either you're not going to the right conventions or you have really high standards. You got a thing against chubby cosplay girls or something?

Out of curiosity.. would not finding overweight people attractive make him a terrible person?

e: this sounds a lot more snarky than I intended

Posted by Strangestories

That is not how a bow should be drawn.

Posted by AMyggen

This has evolved into a really classy comment section. Congrats to everyone involved.

Edited by golguin

Sounds super interesting so far. I'm going to listen to this while I punch people in the face for Black Friday deals.

Edited by kippers

This is really, really interesting. That's coming from someone who knows nothing about cosplay.

Posted by Benny

I hate the internet.

And this comments section is rife with it.

Posted by IrishCoffee

While it's a very interesting interview I have to disagree on a few points. Her claims that "it's not for you it's for us" is the same bullshit that actors spew. While yes you probably take a lot from it personally you wouldn't do it if it wasn't for the attention it garners. Even if it's not your primary goal you are definitely putting yourself out there in hopes that people will notice you regardless of what you tell yourself.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with that, people want to be noticed, but don't pretend like that isn't what you are doing.

Edited by AssInAss

Huh, never clicked before that cosplay could be similar to theater.

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