All you really had to do was say:

The price (games and hardware both LAST and cost far less)

The quality

The freedom

Anyways, the first comment I read was about how people on this site wont say stupid crap and the next was that "it was nice to see this". Seriously folks, if you are on a website like GB.com to get your pc news you are just not a pc gamer. There isn't rules on this, there isn't some unwritten guide, there is nothing wrong with being a pc gamer on giantbomb, but the community just isn't behind the idea and majority of people on here hardly have any experience with PC. Even Geoff had his rig built for him and brad only plays starcraft. Dave and vinny hell yes, but in all honsesty they dont make enough content to justify posting this here. Go over and post a vid on youtube and spam it everywhere or something, but posting this here means only other pc people see it because there is no cross contamination of console/pc it seems.

anyways: http://www.ingamechat.net (best podcast for pc/console/anything)

also, serious sam 3!

@FluxWaveZ said:

@risingphoenix said:

but for most of you, you will look at this and say something like "What an idiot Sony/Xbox is way better!!!!!!!!!!" and for those people I am sorry because you are missing out on the longest lasting gaming platform that has been around generation after generation and can play games faster and sexier than any current-gen console ever will be able to. PC gaming FTW!!

No one on this website will come here and say this.

Maybe 8 months ago.

It is AMAZING to me that this guy things games based to run on an xbox 360 don't support a 360 pad. You need something called a driver, genius. Hell, so many games have abxy as the main buttons when they come from the shit60 it's rediculous. Fallout anyone!

@nabokovfan87: I'm appalled that you spelled Jeff's name like that. Shame on you, duder.

It is AMAZING to me that this guy things games based to run on an xbox 360 don't support a 360 pad. You need something called a driver, genius.

Now that I finally have a laptop that can run a fair share of games I think I might be straying away from consoles. I have all of the current gen consoles, I highly doubt I'll by the next gen. I'm tired of having to pay $60 for live annually, having stacks of discs gets annoying, and they take up to much space on my shelf. I'm thinking about building a nice gaming rig when I have some extra cash and selling them all. That way I'd be able to play my games at home on my desktop and I'll have them on my laptop when I travel.

@Icemael said:

But what if all I want to play is Uncharted? The PC can't do that.

...yet. Emulation always negates that argument in the long-run.

@Icemael said:

But what if all I want to play is Uncharted? The PC can't do that.

...yet. Emulation always negates that argument in the long-run.

@SeriouslyNow said:

@Icemael said:

But what if all I want to play is Uncharted? The PC can't do that.

...yet. Emulation always negates that argument in the long-run.

The great argument for PC gaming, "you can steal stuff easier."

:p

@Icemael:You said 'never' and I pointed out that wasn't true. The rest is a matter of personal taste and choice.

@Meowshi said:

@SeriouslyNow said:

@Icemael said:

But what if all I want to play is Uncharted? The PC can't do that.

...yet. Emulation always negates that argument in the long-run.

The great argument for PC gaming, "you can steal stuff easier."

:p

That you immediately associate emulation with piracy says more about you than it does emulation.

The great argument for PC gaming, "you can steal stuff easier."

That you immediately associate emulation with piracy says more about you than it does emulation.

I'll admit I'm confused as to how you would play Uncharted on the PC through means other than stealing.

I don't know much about emulation.

@Grumbel said:

@nabokovfan87 said:

It is AMAZING to me that this guy things games based to run on an xbox 360 don't support a 360 pad. You need something called a driver, genius.

You need something called "actual experience". in Bioshock2 they deliberatly ripped out the gamepad support that was present in Bioshock1 in the name of "better mouse support" (which however sucked as well). In Assassins Creed 2 its just a plain old bug that they never bothered to fix, it works perfectly fine with the wired one, just not the wireless one (unless you plug in a secondary wired gamepad, yeah, weird bug). And there are plenty more games where they didn't bother to include gamepad support, such as Mass Effect. Also try to properly quote, it's hard to guess what you are referring to.

I can quote, It's called not doing it because stupidity doesn't deserve repetition.

I played AC1 and 2 with a wireless 360 pad. Hmmmmmmm I wonder how... THATS RIGHT! I TYPED WORDS INTO GOOGLE AND FOUND OUT WHY!!! YOU REPLEACE A CONFIG FILE AND IT WORKS OR YOU INSTALL THE FRIGGIN DRIVER!

Oh hey it's this thread again. Boy I sure do love me some console war, it's really productive!

Wait, no I don't, it's fucking dumb. Just go enjoy gaming in whatever form you choose.

@risingphoenix: I am starting to agree with you: http://www.giantbomb.com/profile/technohermit/a-man-can-change/30-86630/

I can quote, It's called not doing it because stupidity doesn't deserve repetition.

I played AC1 and 2 with a wireless 360 pad. Hmmmmmmm I wonder how... THATS RIGHT! I TYPED WORDS INTO GOOGLE AND FOUND OUT WHY!!! YOU REPLEACE A CONFIG FILE AND IT WORKS OR YOU INSTALL THE FRIGGIN DRIVER!

@Grumbel said:

@nabokovfan87 said:

I can quote, It's called not doing it because stupidity doesn't deserve repetition.

I played AC1 and 2 with a wireless 360 pad. Hmmmmmmm I wonder how... THATS RIGHT! I TYPED WORDS INTO GOOGLE AND FOUND OUT WHY!!! YOU REPLEACE A CONFIG FILE AND IT WORKS OR YOU INSTALL THE FRIGGIN DRIVER!

In other words: You installed a homebrew workaround for a bug that the developers never bothered to fix. So much for the whole plug&play, works out of the box thing. Just as I said. Is it so hard to realize that all this crap you do to get things to work on PC is *exactly* the reason why there are a lot of people that prefer consoles?

No I did not install a homebrew work around. I put a control configuration file from my AC1 game into AC2. As far as that is concerned, FINE it isn't something in the box. But as I said, a google search and 5 seconds later, everything works. Is it that hard for you to realize that things can be simple and fixing something isn't always as difficult as editing some crazy config file and going 5 deep into the game install.

AND DONT EVER SAY consoles are better because they are simple and just work. Tell me there isn't some dude pushing the living room table out of the way in order to play motion crap, someone going to play a game and having a dead controller, a save corrupt error, someone trying to navigate the xbox menu and being COMPLETELY lost at it, someone calling microsoft or sony and complainging that their console has some flashing red lights and it isn't their fault, someone complaining that their $65 dollar purchase didn't come with the special key that it was supposed to, someone complaining on a forum that the dont have cross game chat, somsone whining that they have to pay for online, someone replying to the last guy that it is better that way because things just work, someone complaining that the wireless isn't working, that their router needs ports opened but they have no idea what that is, someone complaining about how the picture on his friends game is better because the shadows are darker, someone telling you how to set the HDMI correctly and a 6000 page thread about how it isn't better that way, someone telling your that you suck because your tv isn't calibrated, another news story about how the console of your choice doesn't have enough memory for their game and that the disk is going to be one 50000000000000000 floppy discs, someone yelling that they started a game and have to update it, someone starting a game and it not working because "it was just released and there is a day 1 patch", someone yelling about how the dlc should have been on the disc, someone yelling on a forum about how the console is better because it just works, etc.

Well guess what, if you can't copy/paste a file or google something once in a while, THEN JUST PLAY YOUR STUPID GAME ON YOU HAPPY BOX MACHINE.

I don't care about PC vs Consoles.

I just like games. So who gives a fuck?

I don't care about PC vs Consoles.

I just like games. So who gives a fuck?

@kingzetta: I feel as though console gamers do the same thing, however. They justify their console gaming through excuses of money, time, or whatever else it may be. Really, no one is right in this argument. It is more that everyone that argues about dumb shit like this is completely wrong.

No I did not install a homebrew work around. I put a control configuration file from my AC1 game into AC2. As far as that is concerned, FINE it isn't something in the box. But as I said, a google search and 5 seconds later, everything works.

AND DONT EVER SAY consoles are better because they are simple and just work.  

Tell me there isn't some dude pushing the living room table out of the way in order to play motion crap, someone going to play a game and having a dead controller, a save corrupt error, someone trying to navigate the xbox menu and being COMPLETELY lost at it, someone calling microsoft or sony and complainging that their console has some flashing red lights and it isn't their fault, someone complaining that their [...]

Well guess what, if you can't copy/paste a file or google something once in a while, THEN JUST PLAY YOUR STUPID GAME ON YOU HAPPY BOX MACHINE.

@kingzetta: I feel as though console gamers do the same thing, however. They justify their console gaming through excuses of money, time, or whatever else it may be. Really, no one is right in this argument. It is more that everyone that argues about dumb shit like this is completely wrong.

• PC games are almost always $10 or $20 cheaper, Steam Sales are also cheaper then anything on consoles
  
• a three year old PC with a $100 graphic card upgrade can compete with or outperform a console graphically
• a console cost $300, a new entry level gaming PC is more in the $600 range
  
• consoles are easier to use and require almost no maintenance
• consoles are dedicated gaming devices, PC are not, with all the pros and cons that that implies (having a real web browser is great, having background virus scanner cause game stuttering, not no much)
• XboxLive cost around $50 a year, PC Internet and PSN don't
• there are platform exclusives for all of them, but most mainstream  games these days are are multiplatform
  

@Grumbel: I remember Gary Whitta saying on the Tested Podcast sometime ago, about his tenure at PC Gamer. He and his boss would get in arguments because Gary just wanted to play games, while his boss was somewhat of a PC elitist. I think we should all try to become more like Gary in this regard, because it doesn't really matter how we play games, just that we play them.

We should also become more like Gary Whitta because that dude is baller as shit.

300$ for a PC? Then you'd just be playing everything on lower settings than the consoles are. And at 640x800. It's still very very cost prohibitive. I payed 1500$ for a PC 4 months ago and it's chugging on the BF3 beta.

I respect your opinion tremendously. I was a dedicated PC gamer. I also work on PC's 24/7, so the idea of playing a game on one started getting bleh to me. Mine is nothing but media storage and some minor gaming these day's. With the execption of the sims and a few other games my wife and I plan on making a serious of video's out of. I sadly do not PC game anymore

Dude, all you needed to say was "mouse and keyboard".