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ALBUMMER! 07: Judas Priests' "Juggulator"

This week on Albummer! we're talking about the first album made by British metal pioneers Judas Priest after they replaced their legendary frontman Rob Halford with a rando from Akron, Ohio. What's a Juggulator? You'll find out!

The crew behind Two Minutes to Late Night are here to re-review some of the most critically reviled albums out there!

Sep. 15 2021

Posted by: Jan

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I have tickets to see Priest in November... super excited. IMO that three album run in the 70s of Sad Wings, Sin After Sin, and Stained Class is about as remarkable as any band's career in metal ever got.

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That album was dark times for Judas Priest. Looking forward to this episode.

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thats some good in this episode wiki abuse right there

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@demigodraven: You love to see it.

Show remains good.

Video games. o7

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Googly  Online

Pippen!

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man i haven´t listened to this album in at least 15 years, i think i´ll throw the cd in my car for the next few days. i bought it when it came out, and i think it was actually my first priest album that i owned.

the album was okay but ofcourse nowhere near the level of the halford albums. and priest live with owens were really good.

but the first thing that always comes to mind for this album is that they, for some reason, used a really zoomed in and thus highley pixelated version of a picture, that is used inside the cdcase, as cover.

it looks weirdly cheap. maybe they fixed that in later prints but i remember thinking that it was a bootleg at the time.

ps: also i really enjoy the show :)

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Yeah Priest! I bought two Judas Priest cassettes at a Garden Ridge as a teenager and listened to them back to back for like a year while driving in my Jeep Cherokee. Yes, MP3s and iPods were a thing at that point.

Anyway, great show. Also Paul Di'Anno Maiden is better than Bruce Dickinson Maiden.

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I, for one, only play Sonic the Hedgehog so this video tracks.

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You know, I was initially in the “this show is too negative/punching down/blah blah blah camp for the first few episodes of the show, but I made myself stick with it because I could sense that there was good here. And then I liked this show! And then they made some shitty comments about the giant Bomb audience at the beginning of this episode which are fair, granted, but now I’m mad at them again.

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Ah, time to play my favorite game: Whose house is Jeremy in this week?

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Another fun episode.

I love video games.

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I finally enjoyed an episode of this show.. I find it funny they feel put off by their audience.

Duh, we're metal fans..

I love Video Games...

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I have yet to watch this, but I know this one is going to hurt. I am a massive JP fan and have a huge amount of respect Tim Owen as a singer. What's funny is this is the album that got me into JP and at 13 i thought this was amazing album and one of their best albums. Now at 37 it's embarrassing trying to go back to this.

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heavy metal parking lot is canon

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@mrgreenman: Let us know what you think when you get around to watching!

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You guys should listen to Demolition, the other album they did with Owens. It's much better.

I used to be a big fan of him and followed him to Iced Earth and his various attempts at being in original bands (including times when he tried to write lyrics and failed miserably). Not all great musically, but I loved his voice.

Then I found out he's a racist asshat. So pretty appropriate they got Wahlberg in for the film.

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Also worth mentioning in the discussion is that Owens is the lead singer now for KK's Priest, KK Downings new group after leaving Judas Priest on apparently not great terms.

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Judas Priest rules.

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this is the best show on giant bomb

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I never listened to this, as I always heard it's a disappointing follow up to Painkiller (which I never listened to until I heard Death cover Painkiller). And I've always appreciated Ripper Owens.

Turns out I should just listen to Judas Priest more. This was a pleasant surprise today.

Still one of the coolest live shows I've ever been to. At that Ozzfest show where they played with Sabbath and Slayer. What a trifecta, man

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This episode was super fun, and yeah, Lemmy's being really into history WOULD be weird if he wasn't Lemmy.

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Great ep. I really needed the positive vibes. Judas Priest!

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i'll be honest, i havent watched a single episode of this series because its filled with a bunch or random people i dont know or care about

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@donpureevil: yes! The graphic design is so bad and so…digital! Can’t believe it was a major release but a lot of stuff though the 2000s was just Photoshopped atrocities left and right.

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@strijd: well the good news is that there is still time for you to watch and fall in love with us <3

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@empanic: its really nice of you mentioning me, i probably shouldnt have said what i did earlier. i still dont think im going to watch any of the episodes tilll i see something i like,. im willing to try atleast one ep based maybe on your recommendation thou . im 85-90 born if that helps. im a still a little weird about seeing strangers on this site :(

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Man, I really like Jugulator. Demolition is the album I can barely stand to listen to.

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I love this show! This was the first time I had actually heard the album referenced and that made it even better, though I really do want to hear Danzig sing Elvis. At first I was worried because I love Juggulator but everything turned out fine. I laughed out loud and yelled at my computer several times. This cast is wonderful, if you haven't watched but are somehow reading this, watch the show. It is good, they are good. Jordan Olds' impressions of Rob Halford are amazing. Thank you to all involved.

(Oh I guess I did hear all of Ste. Anger probably.. I forgot.)

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this episode was really fun and it was cool to see every one so positive on a controversial (?) record.

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I look forward to this show every week now and it's only been getting better and better. Doesn't matter to me if they love the albums or hate them, it's just a good time.

I blew through all the Two Minutes to Late Night stuff too, excellent stuff. Very glad GB put these guys on my radar!

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I really love the added clips to this episode. This one of the things keeping me coming back to giantbomb every week now.

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I, for one, welcome our weekly Albummer content! Love the show, love that it's on GB.

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Jugulator is my favourite Priest album, no joke. Ripper is the best.

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@strijd: Neither have I. it could be any random YouTube video, except I have the privilege of paying for it because I was suckered into renewing my sub in January before they announced the departures.

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very good show, y'all rule!

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Love this series. I love when “bad albums” that aren’t that bad get reappraisal. And I also love it when albums that are justifiably bad get ripped into. I don’t really get how people think this series is punching down when Giant Bomb has always ripped into abysmal video games, with incredible results. Sometimes punching down on something that’s genuinely awful is fun.

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I really enjoy this series, although I haven't heard any of the records (which must speak volumes for my musical taste *ahem* LOL). It's cool to hear how really bad they are or more info on the fallout from their release such as that Apple/U2 debacle. I read about that one briefly but this series kinda zeroes in on it nicely.

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Good episode. I really like this show.

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@strijd: Neither have I. it could be any random YouTube video, except I have the privilege of paying for it because I was suckered into renewing my sub in January before they announced the departures.

I just really don't understand how many people feel the need to pop into the comments of this show and drop lines like this. It's the same people who say "I can't believe my taxes are paying for [thing I don't like here]!" Sure dude, all $50 of your dollars are paying for exactly the thing you aren't watching because that's how corporate accounting works.

Also, why not give the show a chance? @strijd basically calls out stranger danger as a reason to not watch a video on a website. Yeah, you may not have heard of any of these people before, but now you have a chance to become familiar with them! People you do know from this website have ventured out onto the internet, curated some new shows for you, and brought them here. Trying new things isn't going to hurt you. The worst that will happen is you won't like it, and you can just move on with life. It really isn't that hard.

Anyway, shout out to the 2M2LN crew. I've really enjoyed all the episodes of this show. I definitely think it was a fun surprise to hit on an album everyone actually liked!

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Everyone like this one! What a week!

Also Jan (I assume) with the "In This Episode" tags. Perfect.

It actually kind of bums me out that it seems like the crew's main take-away is that the audience reaction has been largely negative it seems. I hope they keep doing this because I really enjoy the exposure to music that, for the most part, I've never listened to.

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I like this show and video games and there's nothing you can do about it.

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Another person that always listens but never comments here. This is my favorite GB premium podcast thank you very much. Never heard of anyone on it before and was immediately into you.

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@scientifictional said:
@curufinwe said:

@strijd: Neither have I. it could be any random YouTube video, except I have the privilege of paying for it because I was suckered into renewing my sub in January before they announced the departures.

I just really don't understand how many people feel the need to pop into the comments of this show and drop lines like this. It's the same people who say "I can't believe my taxes are paying for [thing I don't like here]!" Sure dude, all $50 of your dollars are paying for exactly the thing you aren't watching because that's how corporate accounting works.

This is a ridiculous argument. No, a service you pay directly for is not the same as taxes which go to public goods. A tax is something we give up for a public good to help all others in our communities.

This is a service we are directly paying for and it is absolutely valid to criticize it if the value being offered no longer matches the $50/year i put in at the beginning of this year because I trusted the crew to make things that would be worth it to me.

Giant Bomb Premium is not a charity donation or a tax. It's not something you pay no matter what with the trust that it will help others. It's a subscription service you pay in return for access to a service. If that service stops offering the value you expect it is absolutely valid to criticize it. You might as well say I can't complain if a restaurant gets my order wrong or when the PS+ or Humble Choice games for the month are all bad.

And, personally, I'm not seeing much value in the direction the site has been headed. Nothing against the Albummer crew personally—they seem like fine folks—but I came to Giant Bomb for 13 years because it had a central crew of charismatic and compelling buddies who created a slew of original content that played into their friendly rapport. I'm not interested in Giant Bomb becoming a podcast network that hosts a variety of shows from randos entirely disconnected from the core crew of the site.

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Another great episode - loved the clips giving a bit of background to the story too. It's always a risk bringing in a new show but always have a lot of fun listening, the enthusiasm is infectious!

P.s. Let me aboard the Iron Maiden school bus!

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@scientifictional said:
@curufinwe said:

@strijd: Neither have I. it could be any random YouTube video, except I have the privilege of paying for it because I was suckered into renewing my sub in January before they announced the departures.

I just really don't understand how many people feel the need to pop into the comments of this show and drop lines like this. It's the same people who say "I can't believe my taxes are paying for [thing I don't like here]!" Sure dude, all $50 of your dollars are paying for exactly the thing you aren't watching because that's how corporate accounting works.

This is a ridiculous argument. No, a service you pay directly for is not the same as taxes which go to public goods. A tax is something we give up for a public good to help all others in our communities.

This is a service we are directly paying for and it is absolutely valid to criticize it if the value being offered no longer matches the $50/year i put in at the beginning of this year because I trusted the crew to make things that would be worth it to me.

Giant Bomb Premium is not a charity donation or a tax. It's not something you pay no matter what with the trust that it will help others. It's a subscription service you pay in return for access to a service. If that service stops offering the value you expect it is absolutely valid to criticize it. You might as well say I can't complain if a restaurant gets my order wrong or when the PS+ or Humble Choice games for the month are all bad.

And, personally, I'm not seeing much value in the direction the site has been headed. Nothing against the Albummer crew personally—they seem like fine folks—but I came to Giant Bomb for 13 years because it had a central crew of charismatic and compelling buddies who created a slew of original content that played into their friendly rapport. I'm not interested in Giant Bomb becoming a podcast network that hosts a variety of shows from randos entirely disconnected from the core crew of the site.

So two things here.

First of all, of course a paid subscription to a video game website is not the same thing as taxes. It was just correlation the logic in people who make those types of arguments. "I don't like everything that this money is going toward, therefore this thing should not happen." Well, other people are also paying into that service (be it taxes, subscription services, membership fees to some sort of club, whatever.) Those other people might actually like that content! Diversity of content is what makes streaming services appealing in the first place.

This leads into my second point. From the standpoint of your average user, do you think they view every single livestream, video, and podcast? And do you think they like every single one? There have been members of the staff I don't like. There have been video series about subjects I'm not interested in. I didn't go into the video threads and tell Jan he should stop playing Pokemon games because I don't care about them. I just let him have his thing because other people on the site probably like that. I get this is a different sort of branching out, but the site is down on staff and experimenting. How many people do you think subscribe to Netflix, Hulu, or HBO Max and get mad when they add a new series that doesn't appeal to them? I understand Giant Bomb is a more personal website, but it's still a subscription service for video content. A lot of the outrage really seems to stem from a viewpoint of "I should like every video on this website, and also it should only contain the same five people on staff for everything they upload." It's just asking a lot of them right now.

My point was only that a lot of the new shows have had people lashing out at the creators, or people outright stating that they refuse to even TRY it because a member of the GB staff isn't on the video. I get it, it's a different time for the website. If you don't feel like your subscription is worth it anymore or you don't think you're onboard with the new direction of the site, you can hold that opinion. I just don't think it's fair for people to leave pointed statements in the feed for the new shows. They're just taking an opportunity to do something new and fun. Put that feedback back into the actual website staff, because that's who you want to be actually listening to it.

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I also watch and love this show every single week. There were multiple turns in this episode that I really liked. The whole buildup to the lead singer change was amazing, and then obviously the reveal of your opinions was great too.

I feel like this show is getting better!