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Breaking Brad

Breaking Brad: Breaking Brad: Demon's Souls: Part 01

A new hero rises and seeks to test his iron against the world of Souls. And this time, it's Brad!

Can we break Brad Shoemaker's will and send him packing? We put him up against some difficult video games to find out.

Jan. 15 2014

Cast: Brad, Vinny

Posted by: Vinny

In This Episode:

Demon's Souls

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(Brad throws himself into encounters and doesn't see all of the angles)

COMMENTERS: Brad sucks at games, he should pay more attention. This is so frustrating, I hate watching Brad play.

(Brad hangs back and thinks things through before he acts)

COMMENTERS: Why won't Brad just move? Why doesn't he just run at that crowd of enemies? Brad sucks at games, I hate watching him play.

Seriously guys, he just started blind-running a Souls game live on a stream. Cut the guy a break, he just doesn't want to seem brash or arrogant.

This. This so much. The chat was so freakin annoying. Also the whole "Meh, Brad isn't playing it right, he shouldn't use the thing the game gave him. He has to make it harder for him. I can't stand to watch Brad not dying instantly. Also I would complain if Brad would die instantly. Fucking Noooob class Baby Souls!" Urgh....

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My only problem with this feature is that I'll have to wait a week until the next episode.

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My new favorite feature

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HOOOOOOLY SHIT YES

MORE DARK SOULS
MORE BROKEN BRAD

I AM SO EXCITED I AM SWEATING SEROTONIN

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So this actually is happening. Wouldn't have really thought it possible, but that just makes it even better.

Keep up the good work, Brad (and Vinny).

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I can't believe I missed this live, and I think it's absolutely hilarious that he decided to play Demon's Souls, rather than Dark souls.

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I'm glad that @brad is warming up to this. One tip, when you read the message left by other Demon's Souls player, there's a rating value around the corner of the message window. Use that to decide your actions.

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Watching Brad tear through this first level is awesome. I remember so many areas here where I would die. And with Vinny trolling Brad the whole way.

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50 mins in and he's still freaking rolling about at the start of the game, play it stop fannying around.

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I really enjoyed this Breaking Brad Our Last Souls!

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Brad selected Royalist: turned off stream.

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@dprotp said:

@carac: i wholeheartedly agree--when Dark Souls came out, i was slightly put off by the art direction and UI design.

i feel that demon's souls just has better art direction and design in general, and feels so much nicer to play

I think Dark Souls looks ugly as fuck. I have friends who say it looks fantastic, and I just don't understand it. The UI looks like it's from a PC RPG released in 1991. The character models all look TERRIBLE. The environments have a grainy, muddy, poorly lit look to them - at least all of the ones I've seen. Never played Demon's Souls, so can't comment on it.

On top of that, the voice acting seems kind of poor, and the story seems borderline incomprehensible. I dunno. I bought this game during the last Steam sale, and I'm going to try and figure out what the hell people are talking about.

Also, can I just say I'm a little disappointed that our new premium stream is another run through of a Souls game, a week after we finished with Dark Souls?

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@lackingsaint said:

(Brad throws himself into encounters and doesn't see all of the angles)

COMMENTERS: Brad sucks at games, he should pay more attention. This is so frustrating, I hate watching Brad play.

(Brad hangs back and thinks things through before he acts)

COMMENTERS: Why won't Brad just move? Why doesn't he just run at that crowd of enemies? Brad sucks at games, I hate watching him play.

Seriously guys, he just started blind-running a Souls game live on a stream. Cut the guy a break, he just doesn't want to seem brash or arrogant.

This. This so much. The chat was so freakin annoying. Also the whole "Meh, Brad isn't playing it right, he shouldn't use the thing the game gave him. He has to make it harder for him. I can't stand to watch Brad not dying instantly. Also I would complain if Brad would die instantly. Fucking Noooob class Baby Souls!" Urgh....

The chat is just part of the experience. The one thing I will defend though is that playing as royal really will rob you of the experience in a way. That first level is there to beat a certain playstyle into the player. To struggle a little and get comfortable with the idea of earning and losing souls. The blue eyed knights are really challenging for beginner melee characters. Playing Royal let's you cakewalk through all of this. Yes it's there, and yes you can use it, but for me Royal is a class you might choose for a second playthrough just to see how much easier it can be. As a pure melee character I really struggled to get as far as Brad got to yesterday with relative ease. That struggle prepared me for other fights down the road.

Either way it will make it more amusing when soul arrow won't be as useful and melee will be the only option left.

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Can't tell you how long I have wanted to see the crew explore this one deeper

Agreed. This is fantastic! Hopefully now i never have to play Demon Souls.

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@humanity said:

@abendlaender said:

@lackingsaint said:

(Brad throws himself into encounters and doesn't see all of the angles)

COMMENTERS: Brad sucks at games, he should pay more attention. This is so frustrating, I hate watching Brad play.

(Brad hangs back and thinks things through before he acts)

COMMENTERS: Why won't Brad just move? Why doesn't he just run at that crowd of enemies? Brad sucks at games, I hate watching him play.

Seriously guys, he just started blind-running a Souls game live on a stream. Cut the guy a break, he just doesn't want to seem brash or arrogant.

This. This so much. The chat was so freakin annoying. Also the whole "Meh, Brad isn't playing it right, he shouldn't use the thing the game gave him. He has to make it harder for him. I can't stand to watch Brad not dying instantly. Also I would complain if Brad would die instantly. Fucking Noooob class Baby Souls!" Urgh....

The chat is just part of the experience. The one thing I will defend though is that playing as royal really will rob you of the experience in a way. That first level is there to beat a certain playstyle into the player. To struggle a little and get comfortable with the idea of earning and losing souls. The blue eyed knights are really challenging for beginner melee characters. Playing Royal let's you cakewalk through all of this. Yes it's there, and yes you can use it, but for me Royal is a class you might choose for a second playthrough just to see how much easier it can be. As a pure melee character I really struggled to get as far as Brad got to yesterday with relative ease. That struggle prepared me for other fights down the road.

Either way it will make it more amusing when soul arrow won't be as useful and melee will be the only option left.

It's not like Brad knew how easy it would be with the magic. He choose a class cause he heard it's an easier class to beginn with. If he wasn't using the magic the chat would scream at him for dying cause he didn't use the magic. There are more than one ways to experience Demon's Souls, not everybody needs to do the same. Also as everybody said, it wont last long.

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WHAT. Finally, playing the Superior Game. Now this I can get into.

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@abendlaender said:

@lackingsaint said:

(Brad throws himself into encounters and doesn't see all of the angles)

COMMENTERS: Brad sucks at games, he should pay more attention. This is so frustrating, I hate watching Brad play.

(Brad hangs back and thinks things through before he acts)

COMMENTERS: Why won't Brad just move? Why doesn't he just run at that crowd of enemies? Brad sucks at games, I hate watching him play.

Seriously guys, he just started blind-running a Souls game live on a stream. Cut the guy a break, he just doesn't want to seem brash or arrogant.

This. This so much. The chat was so freakin annoying. Also the whole "Meh, Brad isn't playing it right, he shouldn't use the thing the game gave him. He has to make it harder for him. I can't stand to watch Brad not dying instantly. Also I would complain if Brad would die instantly. Fucking Noooob class Baby Souls!" Urgh....

x3

Reading the chat and seeing everyone's reactions can be fun as hell, and Live is always the best way to watch these features. However if you're someone paying for GB content, I would expect them to be of some level of maturity when it comes to accepting playing styles and choices. Some people go too far and need to stop being such massive babies.

We all know Brad's play style by now, and they're more than aware of our reactions to it and how much him and Vinny clash in that area. It's great that they're embracing that and turning over good, funny content as a result!

There's a line between some fun jabbing at a particular quirk and it becoming genuine ridicule towards a man's character. I'm not saying it has become that, but reading people say he's bad at video games just isn't funny anymore, dudes.

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The way he plays this is really off putting and uninteresting, being so timid and running 10 steps forward and 30 back is really infuriating.

The whole reason Load our Last Souls was fun is because Vinny was like f*** it constantly just running in there and dying.

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@humanity said:

@abendlaender said:

@lackingsaint said:

(Brad throws himself into encounters and doesn't see all of the angles)

COMMENTERS: Brad sucks at games, he should pay more attention. This is so frustrating, I hate watching Brad play.

(Brad hangs back and thinks things through before he acts)

COMMENTERS: Why won't Brad just move? Why doesn't he just run at that crowd of enemies? Brad sucks at games, I hate watching him play.

Seriously guys, he just started blind-running a Souls game live on a stream. Cut the guy a break, he just doesn't want to seem brash or arrogant.

This. This so much. The chat was so freakin annoying. Also the whole "Meh, Brad isn't playing it right, he shouldn't use the thing the game gave him. He has to make it harder for him. I can't stand to watch Brad not dying instantly. Also I would complain if Brad would die instantly. Fucking Noooob class Baby Souls!" Urgh....

The chat is just part of the experience. The one thing I will defend though is that playing as royal really will rob you of the experience in a way. That first level is there to beat a certain playstyle into the player. To struggle a little and get comfortable with the idea of earning and losing souls. The blue eyed knights are really challenging for beginner melee characters. Playing Royal let's you cakewalk through all of this. Yes it's there, and yes you can use it, but for me Royal is a class you might choose for a second playthrough just to see how much easier it can be. As a pure melee character I really struggled to get as far as Brad got to yesterday with relative ease. That struggle prepared me for other fights down the road.

Either way it will make it more amusing when soul arrow won't be as useful and melee will be the only option left.

It's not like Brad knew how easy it would be with the magic. He choose a class cause he heard it's an easier class to beginn with. If he wasn't using the magic the chat would scream at him for dying cause he didn't use the magic. There are more than one ways to experience Demon's Souls, not everybody needs to do the same. Also as everybody said, it wont last long.

Sure sure I mean I'm not saying otherwise. It's just a shame sorta. Personally I would have liked to see him struggle a bit, Brad is funny when he gets incredibly frustrated. Like I said, those times still await him with some bosses ahead, Maneater is a complete fucker of a boss. Valley of Defilement is one huge middle finger to the player, but in terms of atmosphere it's a real cool area.

Personally can't wait for him to visit the Tower of Latria because that is my favorite area of both games. As a fledgling noobie Demons Souls player when I first warped in there, so the Cthulhu guards and the constant rattling of prison bars and pained moaning I was literally scared to leave the beginning cell.

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Oh yes! This will be good, brads will be broken.

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Simply the Best!

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Just a matter of time before a Monster Hunter endurance run appear.

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I am so happy about this. Everything about this. Brad choosing Royal, Vinny playing on his paranoia, the misinformation.

Boletaria 1-1 is probably one of the best levels in videogames history, but I can't wait to see him in the Valley of Defilement or the terror when he enters the Tower of Latria and one of the squidmen one shots him within 10 seconds. The anguish.

What joy.

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I'm so happy this is happening!

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Brad is playing expertly: with caution.

Also, I remember the feeling of mad euphoria I got when I rolled my second character as a Royal and just breezed my way through the early game and utterly trolled PVP. People didn't know how to defend against magic in those days (homing soul arrow = 1000+ dmg)!

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Did not expect Demon Soul to be the next Endurance run. Nor for the next ER to be labeled a different name so they lock it behind the pay wall.

You do realize Endurance runs are every day right? These aren't every day...

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Brad has come to save Giant Bomb 2014!

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@counterclockwork87 said:

@crusader8463 said:

Did not expect Demon Soul to be the next Endurance run. Nor for the next ER to be labeled a different name so they lock it behind the pay wall.

You do realize Endurance runs are every day right? These aren't every day...

They were posted Monday to Friday, but they weren't always recorded on those days.

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"Oh man, that guy has a giant shield." made me laugh. I've never played Demon's Souls and I knew exactly what was going to happen there. Mostly because they did that in Dark Souls. Three times.

This is going to be pretty great. Dark Lord Vinny is the best navigator for this job.

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This should be interesting...

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sweet! i missed it yesterday. i know what i'm doing while having dinner!

also.. the predictions were right hehe

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What a great surprise! This is gonna be grand

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The second I heard Vinnys voice as the copilot, I giggled like a little girl, lol.

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Some of these boss fights should be great.

Flamelurker?

The Maneaters?

The Penetrator?

This Breaking Brad might last 6 months.

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@shtinky said:
@counterclockwork87 said:

@crusader8463 said:

Did not expect Demon Soul to be the next Endurance run. Nor for the next ER to be labeled a different name so they lock it behind the pay wall.

You do realize Endurance runs are every day right? These aren't every day...

They were posted Monday to Friday, but they weren't always recorded on those days.

Yeah, on certain weeks where it would be impossible to do it daily, they would instead do a longer playthrough on a day and then split it. They do however try to make it a daily run as much as possible.

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Did not expect Demon Soul to be the next Endurance run. Nor for the next ER to be labeled a different name so they lock it behind the pay wall.

Except it's not an ER. YAY TROLLS!

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@gaspower said:

@shtinky said:
@counterclockwork87 said:

@crusader8463 said:

Did not expect Demon Soul to be the next Endurance run. Nor for the next ER to be labeled a different name so they lock it behind the pay wall.

You do realize Endurance runs are every day right? These aren't every day...

They were posted Monday to Friday, but they weren't always recorded on those days.

Yeah, on certain weeks where it would be impossible to do it daily, they would instead do a longer playthrough on a day and then split it. They do however try to make it a daily run as much as possible.

The basic rules of an endurance are: nothing stops the endurance run. I bet a lot of things will delay or even stop this breaking brad, therefore, it is not an endurance run.

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:( come on GiantBomb guys. First a run of videos with Spelunky(only the 151st site to have one) now another 'Souls' game video series. I don't know if its a January thing or a lack of trying thing but sadface none-the-less.

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I love Dark Souls so much. Never got into Demon's Souls though, thinking hard about going back now. Thanks Giant Bomb!

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Unexpected live show last night, I stayed up way to long.... but the entertainment was well worth it. Though the whole "Brads bad at games" was a bit over the top in the chat. He does die a lot a in quick looks and so, but he's not bad at all games. I remember him talking about playing the new Devil May Cry on Hard and enjoying it, and completing The Arkham games on hard, including the challenge rooms, which can be quite hard. Just look at all the Breaking Brad videos.

When Brad truly immerses himself in a game he's very good at them. I mostly interpret the giantbomb "meme" as more of a joke than a complaint when being expressed by the community, but sometimes we've pushed it a bit too far after my liking.

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This was great! With all Dark Souls content, this is a great choice to mix it up a little.

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@benspyda said:

@driftspace: Difficulty is a personal thing really. SL1 runs is (sic) a very specific way to play the game and I don't think works as the best way to judge the difficulty.

I don't disagree with you that difficulty has a personal element, but I made other points as well; what about the plethora of healing and mana-restoring items which can be used per area in DS? There is no hard cap on them, whereas Dark Souls caps the amount of times a player can heal and cast between areas/rests. I think those items are a huge game-changer in DS. Example: it's quite possible to finish the first boss of DS with 30+ grass, which is 6 times the amount of healing available to players during the first part of DkS. You can easily farm healing items in DS -- amassing hundreds in the first few levels -- but DkS gives you no option to do so. How does the potential for nearly unlimited healing not affect the difficulty of the game?

What about the built-in boss safe-zones featured in Demon's Souls? How about the fact that Demon's Souls also has a built-in mechanic (World Tendency) which actually makes the game easier as you progress (White World Tendency) by reducing enemy health, increasing player attack and player health, all while spawning upper-tier items into the world which aid the player greatly?

I think PVP in DkS Souls makes it harder, too; the P2P is less player-friendly, and there are mechanics in DkS which allow players of any level to invade players of any other level: Darkmoon invades infinitely down; Darkwraith invades infinitely up; Forest Covenant has no level restrictions. DS invasions are always within 10% and +/-10 the host's Soul Level.

I appreciate that Demon's Souls is harder for you personally, but I presented (and contrasted) in-game mechanics which affect everyone's experience. What makes Demon's Souls more difficult for you personally, and why don't you feel like the rest of these mechanics make it more "objectively" easier?

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@gaspower said:

@shtinky said:
@counterclockwork87 said:

@crusader8463 said:

Did not expect Demon Soul to be the next Endurance run. Nor for the next ER to be labeled a different name so they lock it behind the pay wall.

You do realize Endurance runs are every day right? These aren't every day...

They were posted Monday to Friday, but they weren't always recorded on those days.

Yeah, on certain weeks where it would be impossible to do it daily, they would instead do a longer playthrough on a day and then split it. They do however try to make it a daily run as much as possible.

The basic rules of an endurance are: nothing stops the endurance run. I bet a lot of things will delay or even stop this breaking brad, therefore, it is not an endurance run.

THIS COMMENT PYRAMID HAS NOW GOTTEN TO THE POINT WHERE I WILL NOT LET THIS END!!!!

NOTHING STOPS THE COMMENT PYRAMID!!!

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Kudos to Brad for picking up Demon's Souls, I much prefer the design and atmosphere of this to Dark Souls.

I'm glad he picked a starting class that meshes with his playstyle. It was satisfying seeing him display caution while moving through the level, and pick up on parrying etc despite not needing to use it with soul arrow. No sense making the game harder than it has to be (though it looks like Vinny's working on that!)

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I love you Brad.

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Oh man...beating Dark Souls is one thing, but Demon's Souls is another. Patrick is right - Dark Souls' difficulty level is largely overblown. It's tough, but it's fair and manageable. When I went back and played Demon's Souls, it felt like it spiked fairly randomly and had some really cheap, super hard stuff. But then most of the bosses were stupid easy with a sorcerer. There's enough cool stuff in there worth seeing to push through the dumb crap though.

Best of luck, Brad. I gave up on my NG+ playthrough...also because I just didn't like most of the levels in Demon's Souls enough to want to replay it. As opposed to my 1000 achievement points and six playthroughs of Dark Souls over the past few years.

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Yeah, I don't think I'm going to watch this anymore...I'm on a blind playthrough of darksouls and I'm not even moving this slow through the game....

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FUUUUUUUUCCCCKKKK YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!