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Giant Bombcast 11/19/2013

"Scoops" of the popular morning show, Scoops & The Wolf, joins the team for a special video-game-themed episode, where we discuss current generation video game devices, like the Sony PlayStation 4, Microsoft Xbox One, and Nintendo Wii U.

The Giant Bombcast is the world's most beloved video game podcast, and now it's available in video form.

Nov. 19 2013

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Finally the next generation of podcast has arrived.

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I think the more important question to ask during the part where they were talking about the unforeseen problems with people streaming games before release, should have been "or maybe they should have made a better game?" Say what you want, but it's not like the guy doctored up a video to somehow discredit the game, the game is what it is, and streaming tends to show that, minus the slightly lower image quality that twitch puts out, of course.

NBA Live 14 has already been called out in reviews as the incredibly mediocre game that it is, especially compared to 2k14, the only difference is that the guy on twitch didn't have to hold back because of any type of embargo. To be honest, I think the only people having paranoid meetings about this type of stuff are the people getting ready to push out the next "Aliens: Colonial Marines" and are worried about how this type of easier and more accessible streaming, might make it harder for them to trick people into boosting their day one sales and preorder numbers. Especially if game sites have their hands tied by embargoes or just aren't sent a copy for review so they can tell people that a game is hot garbage.

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Brothers is fucking boring and just because it says something towards the end doesn't make it a fun and interesting experience.

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Bombcast: Sickest drops.

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Xbox! CUT MY VIDEO! IN TWO PIECES!

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@chose said:

Brothers is fucking boring and just because it says something towards the end doesn't make it a fun and interesting experience.

THIS.

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I get the sense that Jeff must have gotten some hardcore shit from Nintendo fans for his Majora's Mask review based on the way he talks about that game now. Obviously he's exaggerating for effect but he seems to actually not like the game despite reviewing it pretty well at the time.

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@dreamtheateropeth said:

I thought we got rid of Patrick ''SJW'' Kleptok and Alex ''nothing useful to say'' Navarro. Such a shame ,another podcast ruined.

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i laughed so hard. go get 'em, scoops!

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@gaftra said:

I was so glad to hear Jeff call out old KI's as the hot garbage that it was. I don't get how people loved that game.

New game looks super great though!

It's like, opinions man..

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@patrickklepek Great to have you back on the bombcast even if it is only for one episode. Keep up the good work with Bombin' you and Alex have been doing a solid job with it.

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Wonderful 101 -- better than Brothers and just about everything else this year

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Thank you Jeff for being the voice of reason with the Brothers not so awesome after all talk. I'm looking forward to the GoTY throw down in a month. But fuck Brothers, that game was boring as hell.

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Thank you Jeff for being the voice of reason with the Brothers not so awesome after all talk. I'm looking forward to the GoTY throw down in a month. But fuck Brothers, that game was boring as hell.

Yeah, he who hasn't played through the majority of an overall very short game and ridicules it truly is the voice of reason in this discussion.
What did Brad ever do to deserve any form of bashing for liking Brothers? He didn't call any other games bad, just found Brothers to be extremely good. Fuck him, I guess.

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So much cynicism. Jeff, dude - what the hell.

I don't care much for the games that he talked about, but holy crap - is he trying to troll people with the exaggerations? Cause I know he's funnier than this.

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The Appleization of all that Xbox stuff sounds like my worst nightmare. I get why that's what their core audience would want, and I don't necessarily think it's a bad thing, but it's not for me at all. We'll see where all this stuff is at in a couple of years, but the Xbox One might have just moved from "buy in a couple years" to "buy never" for me. Also, since I wouldn't be using voice commands, it's kind of irrelevant how great all of that stuff is, especially when it sounds like the UI is crappy for controllers.

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Yeah, he who hasn't played through the majority of a (overall very short) game and ridicules it truly is the voice of reason in this discussion.

Brad has done the exact same thing on several occasions in the past, then proceeds to shutdown and whine when he is challenged or corrected on said subject. eg. The bet that Brad won't finish AC:Brotherhood (after completely slandering it) based on his feelings of AC1, after Ryan repeatedly stated that the former was a vast improvement over its predecessors.

What did Brad ever do to deserve any form of bashing for liking Brothers? He didn't call any other games bad, just found Brothers to be extremely good.

It's more Brad being trolled for making quite an outlandish set of claims, and then continuing to praise the gospel known as Brothers on multiple live streams and social media for an extended period of time while shooting down people that didn't enjoy it as much as he did than hate for the game. The fact that he likes it is fine but don't shove it down people throats.

I wanted to like Brothers but found it difficult to get past how depressingly boring it was, on several occasions I combated unconsciousness while playing and was forced to use the credit reel as motivation to complete it.

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@neox said:

Yeah, he who hasn't played through the majority of a (overall very short) game and ridicules it truly is the voice of reason in this discussion.

Brad has done the exact same thing on several occasions in the past, then proceeds to shutdown and whine when he is challenged or corrected on said subject. eg. The bet that Brad won't finish AC:Brotherhood (after completely slandering it) based on his feelings of AC1, after Ryan repeatedly stated that the former was a vast improvement over its predecessors.

What did Brad ever do to deserve any form of bashing for liking Brothers? He didn't call any other games bad, just found Brothers to be extremely good.

It's more Brad being trolled for making quite an outlandish set of claims, and then continuing to praise the gospel known as Brothers on multiple live streams and social media for an extended period of time while shooting down people that didn't enjoy it as much as he did than hate for the game. The fact that he likes it is fine but don't shove it down people throats.

I wanted to like Brothers but found it difficult to get past how depressingly boring it was, on several occasions I combated unconsciousness while playing and was forced to use the credit reel as motivation to complete it.

You're totally overreacting here. Brad was definitely not shoving Brothers down people's throat as much as you think he is. Don't let your dislike of Brothers cloud your vision here man.

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Little worried that Brad and Jeff were going to duel at 30 minutes.

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The Last of Us is better than Brothers! I hope Brad and Jeff give that game a fair chance before game of the year deliberations

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I understand that KI and KI2 were bad fighting games, but as a kid they were both mind blowing, especially the arcade versions. Jeff was old enough to understand fighting game balance and see it was bad digitized bullshit, but I was about 11 at the time, so they were the best games ever. Mostly because any arcade game that had audio set up to loud as fuck was the best ever.

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@winsord said:

The Appleization of all that Xbox stuff sounds like my worst nightmare. I get why that's what their core audience would want, and I don't necessarily think it's a bad thing, but it's not for me at all. We'll see where all this stuff is at in a couple of years, but the Xbox One might have just moved from "buy in a couple years" to "buy never" for me. Also, since I wouldn't be using voice commands, it's kind of irrelevant how great all of that stuff is, especially when it sounds like the UI is crappy for controllers.

But it's so futuristic.

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Guacamelee!

better than Brothers?

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@neox said:

I wanted to like Brothers but found it difficult to get past how depressingly boring it was, on several occasions I combated unconsciousness while playing and was forced to use the credit reel as motivation to complete it.

You're totally overreacting here. Brad was definitely not shoving Brothers down people's throat as much as you think he is. Don't let your dislike of Brothers cloud your vision here man.

Brads over-hype of Brothers is what clouded my vision duder, don't get me wrong I value Brad's opinion along with the others on whether a game is worth buying or not as with like many i do not have an unlimited amount of funds to throw at dem Vidyo Geams. It's incredibly frustrating tho being recommended a game that's being touted effectivly GOTY and it turns out to be nothing more than a sack of rocks. Way she goes i guess.

In the mean time.....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKffm2uI4dk

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@winsord said:

The Appleization of all that Xbox stuff sounds like my worst nightmare. I get why that's what their core audience would want, and I don't necessarily think it's a bad thing, but it's not for me at all. We'll see where all this stuff is at in a couple of years, but the Xbox One might have just moved from "buy in a couple years" to "buy never" for me. Also, since I wouldn't be using voice commands, it's kind of irrelevant how great all of that stuff is, especially when it sounds like the UI is crappy for controllers.

I know what you mean. On one level I think it's probably the smart approach, differentiating consoles even more as the "it just works" system for your living room, and I think for a pretty large majority it's probably going to be more enjoyable to use than it would have been with a more traditional, detail and option rich approach like the PS4, with its vast amount of room for clutter and poor organisation....

But HOLY HELL do I never want to use an XB1 in the state they described it

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It's gonna be a bummer for me when they do their game of the year deliberations and Brad and Jeff have both still only played an hour of The Last Of Us. Oh well.

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Not a big deal about the new Zelda game, but I kinda wish I would have just stumbled across the Majora's Mask thing during play, instead of having it forcefully yelled at me in this podcast.

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The part where they are talking about how "great" the new Kinect voice commands are has to be the dumbest conversation in any bombcast this year. Now all of the sudden they don't know how to find anything on an Xbox One without voice command? Fucking ridiculous.

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Am I the only one that enjoyed the original Killer Instinct on the SNES? I played the shit out of that.

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Am I the only one that enjoyed the original Killer Instinct on the SNES? I played the shit out of that.

I also played the shit out of that. Fulgore's shit was the worst.

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Majora's Mask had no story or thematic intent? Sorry Jeff, not everything is Tokyo Drift.

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@cale said:

Salt tastes like butt and sugar is what makes things taste sweet. I don't know why people would prefer the taste of salt over sugar. Maybe my tongue is weird, but salt is bad.

I'm sorry you have the food palate of a child.

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Amazon shipped PS4s very poorly in many cases. In the case of one customer, his PS4 shared a box with a heavy dumbbell he requested and was promised would be shipped separately. His PS4 worked but the chassis has been cracked and broken as a result.

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@krabboss said:

@cale said:

Salt tastes like butt and sugar is what makes things taste sweet. I don't know why people would prefer the taste of salt over sugar. Maybe my tongue is weird, but salt is bad.

I'm sorry you have the food palate of a child.

Oh, because kids love sweets! Yeah, so that obviously means every person who prefers sweet to savory has the food palate of a child. I get it. Gold standard of logical deduction and reasoning right here.

Let me try: I see by your cutesy anime avatar that you must have the taste of a child when it comes to media and/or aesthetic preference.

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@cale said:

@krabboss said:

@cale said:

Salt tastes like butt and sugar is what makes things taste sweet. I don't know why people would prefer the taste of salt over sugar. Maybe my tongue is weird, but salt is bad.

I'm sorry you have the food palate of a child.

Oh, because kids love sweets! Yeah, so that obviously means every person who prefers sweet to savory has the food palate of a child. I get it. Gold standard of logical deduction and reasoning right here.

Let me try: I see by your cutesy anime avatar that you must have the taste of a child when it comes to media and/or aesthetic preference.

So you're telling me you've got garbage taste in food as well as video games? My avatar is from Mother 3, son. The greatest JRPG of all time. Get learned.

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@krabboss said:

@cale said:

@krabboss said:

@cale said:

Salt tastes like butt and sugar is what makes things taste sweet. I don't know why people would prefer the taste of salt over sugar. Maybe my tongue is weird, but salt is bad.

I'm sorry you have the food palate of a child.

Oh, because kids love sweets! Yeah, so that obviously means every person who prefers sweet to savory has the food palate of a child. I get it. Gold standard of logical deduction and reasoning right here.

Let me try: I see by your cutesy anime avatar that you must have the taste of a child when it comes to media and/or aesthetic preference.

So you're telling me you've got garbage taste in food as well as video games? My avatar is from Mother 3, son. The greatest JRPG of all time. Get learned.

Get learned? What? So people with a different preference in games to you have garbage taste. I see, you haven't grown out that stage yet. Good luck with the growing up and all that.

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The Last of Us is better than Brothers! I hope Brad and Jeff give that game a fair chance before game of the year deliberations

I hope Scoops and Alex are Skyped into these debates as they actually play games these days.

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@mrsmiley said:

@patrickklepek said:

@dreamtheateropeth said:

I thought we got rid of Patrick ''SJW'' Kleptok and Alex ''nothing useful to say'' Navarro. Such a shame ,another podcast ruined.

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i laughed so hard. go get 'em, scoops!

What the actual fuck does SJW mean? Also, when did we start hating Patrick again? He produces 2/3rds of the contents on this website these days.

Eyes of the Tiger, Kleppek!

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@krabboss said:

@cale said:

@krabboss said:

@cale said:

@krabboss said:

@cale said:

Salt tastes like butt and sugar is what makes things taste sweet. I don't know why people would prefer the taste of salt over sugar. Maybe my tongue is weird, but salt is bad.

I'm sorry you have the food palate of a child.

Oh, because kids love sweets! Yeah, so that obviously means every person who prefers sweet to savory has the food palate of a child. I get it. Gold standard of logical deduction and reasoning right here.

Let me try: I see by your cutesy anime avatar that you must have the taste of a child when it comes to media and/or aesthetic preference.

So you're telling me you've got garbage taste in food as well as video games? My avatar is from Mother 3, son. The greatest JRPG of all time. Get learned.

Get learned? What? So people with a different preference in games to you have garbage taste. I see, you haven't grown out that stage yet. Good luck with the growing up and all that.

Nothin' to do with preference, Sweet-tooth. You don't even know the game, which is much worse. Too busy consuming garbage, I'm sure. Video game as well as food garbage, that is.

I must have really struck a chord huh? So much hostility! It's quite amusing, but not as much as it is sad.

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Zelda Majora's Mask is the best. What is WRONG with Jeff? Zelda Majora's Mask and Yoshi's Island both?

I guess he just hates fun? Majora's Mask has problems, but it does so many great things that no other game ever has.

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YEAH JEFF STOP BEING SO CRITICAL. THAT'S NOT YOUR JOB.

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Okay, first off, Super Paper Mario had an awesome character line up. Second, that special power up Brad was talking about sounds like it was in Super Paper Mario and was way more amazing.

I know I am in the total minority here, but Galaxy was just Okay, but the best Mario game in the last decade has been Super Paper Mario. Play it and be in awe. Maybe this new one is okay.

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@videorob said:

Not a big deal about the new Zelda game, but I kinda wish I would have just stumbled across the Majora's Mask thing during play, instead of having it forcefully yelled at me in this podcast.

ITS NOT A SPOILER OKAY

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Repo bird?

Okay I'm in.

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@frostedminiwheats said:

Zelda Majora's Mask is the best. What is WRONG with Jeff? Zelda Majora's Mask and Yoshi's Island both?

I guess he just hates fun? Majora's Mask has problems, but it does so many great things that no other game ever has.

it also reminds me of a more riskier Nintendo to an extent. RE4 exclusive (which itself was risky) an FPS Metroid, that weird cel-shaded Zelda everyone hated, Majora's Mask being probably the weirdest thing they've done, Pikmin.... now they're just relying on old stuff