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The Daily Dota: 08/15/2013

Internet roleplayer JP McDaniel joins us to find out exactly how bad Wisp needs to be nerfed.

Dota 2. Every day.*

Aug. 15 2013

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Dota everyday!

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Ban Wisp.

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Tony is a dick

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ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ raise your bradleys ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ

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What? You mean you can actually PLAY dota? I thought all people do is watch.

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Ah, good ol' drunken State of the Game memories. Thanks for those, JP.

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You guys should play Captain's Mode more often. No wisp!

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The wisp wasn't even the reason they lost that game.

That level 1 rosh gave early game momentum to one of the best early game lineups possible. It allowed ursa to dive for that first kill to get an even bigger advantage, and then the snowball was truly rolling downhill. By the time the wisp TPs were coming, they already had a huge deficit and they compounded that fact by doing the exact wrong thing in response to a wisp game. Against wisp you must play 5 man dota, but they played split push the whole game. I realize your hand is kind of forced when you have a tinker, but them's the breaks when you hit that random button.

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Wisp time?

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@iamblades: I actually think that we could have had that game if they didn't have a Silencer. Silencer made it too hard to team fight (especially as a Tinker); we ended up losing early rax because we couldn't take a fight. By the end of that game, we could have easily taken out Ursa (with perma-sheep) if not for the Silencer.

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The wisp wasn't even the reason they lost that game.

That level 1 rosh gave early game momentum to one of the best early game lineups possible. It allowed ursa to dive for that first kill to get an even bigger advantage, and then the snowball was truly rolling downhill. By the time the wisp TPs were coming, they already had a huge deficit and they compounded that fact by doing the exact wrong thing in response to a wisp game. Against wisp you must play 5 man dota, but they played split push the whole game. I realize your hand is kind of forced when you have a tinker, but them's the breaks when you hit that random button.

I didn't watch the game. But the idea that Wisp needs some super nerfs is just off. Sure maybe some teensy tinkering, I just have no idea what. For me after watching almost every game of the International... Naga Siren is the one that needs some work.

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Man that first game was really fun.

Ursa tha gawd tho

Also, does anyone remember that Bassett Hound courier thing? what was it's name and is it still coming?

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Kessler LOOOOOVVVVVESSS them balls.

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You guys should just ignore people being dicks. Engaging them just makes it worse.

That first game was great, though, you guys.

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This second game seems like bullshit but then they did random in an all pick match so you can't blame the other team for picking who they've picked.

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Great job on the sound levels, they are pretty good now!

Except for Crispy yells! :P

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Didn't even know it was possible to do Roshan that early.

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Live by the rando, die by the rando.

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@iodine said:

Man that first game was really fun.

Ursa tha gawd tho

Also, does anyone remember that Bassett Hound courier thing? what was it's name and is it still coming?

If you mean the Wuldi the Faithful dachshund courier, yes I believe so, the steam workshop page has a ton of people pushing for it to get in.

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Wisp didn't have much to do with that game.

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dat brad body block

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Man those games were crazy!! RANDOM!

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DOTA, Son!

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That last game showed me just how little I know about answering unusal strategies. The problem is getting experience in any other line-up than straight passive 2-1-2 at my level.

But props to the team for not giving up, I would have laid down and cry at the 2 min mark.

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@crispy: Yeah, silencer is a bad matchup for Tinker considering how skill dependent he is and global silence just shut's him down during a team fight compunded with all the other skills Silencer has.

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Can we get another POV, love listening to them, but it's painful watching brad :S

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Was fun seeing how upset they got at the Ursa wisp combo, its just a game guys.

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Oh man Brad was panicky when trying to save Kessler hahaha! It happens though. Also I think Brad should have gotten force staff instead of blink in order to get out of sticky team fights. Also Brad, you really should've bought back anyway JUST TO REALLY SEAL THE DEAL...SEALEST THE DEALEST. :p

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Great job on the sound levels, they are pretty good now!

Except for Crispy yells! :P

Agreed!

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Live by the Rando, Die by the Rando.

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Live by the random pick, die by the random pick.

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I watched too much TI3 in-client. I keep wanting to click around the map.

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So I take it Ursa-Wisp is the 3S Chun of DOTA2 atm?

Edit: Yun/Chun :P

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why doesn't Brad harass? you're range he is melee right click that bitch!

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P4 ER reference aaaand I'm in love. A+

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I think that everything Brad typed into allchat in that 2nd game was a poor choice. Everything he typed just emphasized that the enemy team had a bigger audience than they realized, so it just encouraged them to be dicks even more.

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Also, hey @mrpibb, I'll throw this your way: is this video in the proper category? I had a hard time finding it, because it's not in the premium/subscriber video category, nor is it misfiled in any other video category. I had to find the video by going to the "latest videos" section.

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gg

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@bisonhero: might be improperly filed, i'll check w/ brad and make sure it's categorized.

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@mrpibb: i can never find these videos through search. i have no idea about the filing mechanic on the site. Would all of them be attached to Dota 2 Wiki?

I always go to latest videos. Cant gb add a Daily Dota in the Videos menu pop up? Its a persistent series.

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I think that everything Brad typed into allchat in that 2nd game was a poor choice. Everything he typed just emphasized that the enemy team had a bigger audience than they realized, so it just encouraged them to be dicks even more.

Yup. It was a really stupid thing to do.

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@firebirdinf: they are not attached to the dota 2 wiki, i'll take a look at hooking them up. These VODs are subscriber only, so they show up in the subscriber category.