But sometimes it seems like the only way I can win anything!   In PvZ, i am absolutely horrible late game.  PvT is probably my best match up.  PvP, its either 4gate or get 4gated.
 
And when I choose to 4gate, I feel bad, but then when I get 4gated, I get pissed.

I think I've actually 4 gated like 5 times, and only when I saw my opponent getting really greedy incredibly early.
 
But yeah, PvP is a pain in the ass. I hate it cause I never 4 gate but I los to it almost all the time. I'm now experimenting with the 3 stalker build but had no chance to use it yet.
 
Especially after the last tournament I found out how boring PvP can get...

I don't know what the actual numbers are, but it seems like 2/3rds of the games i play are against Protoss.  People I know that were playing Zerg or Terran have switched to Protoss.  All the while, nobody that I have talked to likes PvP at all.  If PvP sucks so much you'd think more people would stop playing Protoss.  

Just enjoy it while you can. Over time people will learn how to counter it. It can be held off easily if you know what to look for and what to do. And that's coming from a Zerg player.
 
Also, with the new quick 3 Stalker build Pvp can also evolve beyond the 4Gate as a matchup.

You should!
 
Yeah I kinda do too, when I first started playing Toss that's what I did as I got used to everything but I rarely do now. It's just boring. I probably lose more then I would if I used it but meh. 3gate robo, or 2gate FE is a lot more fun.

" I don't know what the actual numbers are, but it seems like 2/3rds of the games i play are against Protoss.  People I know that were playing Zerg or Terran have switched to Protoss.  All the while, nobody that I have talked to likes PvP at all.  If PvP sucks so much you'd think more people would stop playing Protoss.   "

" You should!  Yeah I kinda do too, when I first started playing Toss that's what I did as I got used to everything but I rarely do now. It's just boring. I probably lose more then I would if I used it but meh. 3gate robo, or 2gate FE is a lot more fun. "

" But sometimes it seems like the only way I can win anything!   In PvZ, i am absolutely horrible late game.  PvT is probably my best match up.  PvP, its either 4gate or get 4gated.  And when I choose to 4gate, I feel bad, but then when I get 4gated, I get pissed. "

When toss goes 4 gate i find it fun to hold off the attack n defend my early expo i prefer it over the late game collusus ball of death that i always have trouble dealing with

i am just glad to know protoss have as much trouble with zerg as i, a zerg, have with protoss.

" @Chubbaluphigous said:

" I don't know what the actual numbers are, but it seems like 2/3rds of the games i play are against Protoss.  People I know that were playing Zerg or Terran have switched to Protoss.  All the while, nobody that I have talked to likes PvP at all.  If PvP sucks so much you'd think more people would stop playing Protoss.   "

I switched from Terran when people where using 5rax reaper to Toss.  I stopped playing for a few months, and now I come back and everyone is protoss!
 

@audiosnag

said:

" You should!  Yeah I kinda do too, when I first started playing Toss that's what I did as I got used to everything but I rarely do now. It's just boring. I probably lose more then I would if I used it but meh. 3gate robo, or 2gate FE is a lot more fun. "

I like 3gate expand mostly, but if I am getting 4gated, it is tough to hold without pulling probes, and even then it is a bit tough.  Right now I am watching ROOTminigun on Team Liquid, the last 3 games either he has 4gated, or has been 4 gated. "

" @Cataphract1014 said:

" @Chubbaluphigous said:

" I don't know what the actual numbers are, but it seems like 2/3rds of the games i play are against Protoss.  People I know that were playing Zerg or Terran have switched to Protoss.  All the while, nobody that I have talked to likes PvP at all.  If PvP sucks so much you'd think more people would stop playing Protoss.   "

I switched from Terran when people where using 5rax reaper to Toss.  I stopped playing for a few months, and now I come back and everyone is protoss!
 

@audiosnag

said:

" You should!  Yeah I kinda do too, when I first started playing Toss that's what I did as I got used to everything but I rarely do now. It's just boring. I probably lose more then I would if I used it but meh. 3gate robo, or 2gate FE is a lot more fun. "

I like 3gate expand mostly, but if I am getting 4gated, it is tough to hold without pulling probes, and even then it is a bit tough.  Right now I am watching ROOTminigun on Team Liquid, the last 3 games either he has 4gated, or has been 4 gated. "

Yeah I know what you're saying. It's tough to hold and so many Toss loooove it. Did you see that build Artosis just put up on his youtube recently? Using three fast stalkers to hold it. I haven't tried it but it seems pretty cool I wanna practice it and give it a shot.
  

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