Rogue/ assassin/ thief Build.

#1 Posted by DoubleKR (102 posts) -

Now I'm about level 25 and my Wood Elf is constantly getting rocked in battle. I'm really really tired of reloading saves every time I see a god damn bear or some shit. Question how do you deal with this shit!? People, should I double up with mage perks? Should I just focus on bow work? Should i ditch the dual wield and grab a shield? What do I need to do to have fun and not die? Help me.

#2 Posted by Codeacious (960 posts) -

Once I hit level 25 I had 100 Sneak, and Shadow Warrior is your best friend. You can get away easily by just spamming crouch and running a bit each time, or actually get a sneak attack when you're detected by attacking JUST after you crouch.

Failing that, I did put some perks into Light Armor to increase my survivability. You do end up having to play keep-away with some of the enemies, but usually it's not much of an issue.

#3 Edited by Adamsons (873 posts) -

Get the bow perk that staggers things whenever you shoot them and tunnel them with arrows, and sneak attack more.
Enchanting is probably the best tree though, rings with +40% archery and one handed are insane. 
I can sympathise though, running with low armor there are some fights that you are going to get absolutely trucked. My mage is around 27 and there was a drauger ranger boss with some stupid paralyze shout that would one shot me from full hp with a single arrow, so I pretty much had to stagger him to death.

#4 Edited by CaLe (4072 posts) -
@DoubleKR said:

What do I need to do to have fun and not die? Help me.

This is how I'm playing and I rarely ever die. Not only that, I can also switch to being a stealth character at any point with just a change of armour and some +damage archery necklace/ring. I really enjoy playing stealthily but when things become hard I throw on the Dragon Armor and go to town. Best of both worlds really.. I just can't use magic much^^
#5 Posted by Joeyoe31 (820 posts) -

Try a bow, it's a pretty good complement for a thief build.

#6 Edited by ki11tank (683 posts) -

stealth, bow, stagger, kite, i also put a put a few perks in resto and can heal while on the move quite well. If you're a stealth class you should avoid letting enemies attack you as much as possible, kinda goes with the territory.

#7 Posted by LordXavierBritish (6319 posts) -

Yo get some Alteration spells, +80 armor instantly.

#8 Posted by Ghost_Cat (1482 posts) -

I tackled this same class the Witcher way: plan ahead, keep moving, and use potions often (I specialize in alchemy).

#9 Posted by Evilsbane (4808 posts) -

If your dual wielding you have to use that dual power attack (Pull both triggers) it staggers almost everything every time and gives you an opening to get at least 2-3 regular hits in.

#10 Posted by Getz (3171 posts) -

Don't ignore the armor tree, getting that light armor bonus is crucial.

#11 Posted by DoubleKR (102 posts) -

Thank you everyone all are very good.

#12 Posted by MaFoLu (1859 posts) -

I just focus on Archery and Sneak, my Light Armor skill isn't even that high since dudes almost never get close enough to hit me. 
If you are dual-wielding, I guess you just have to increase your Armor and use the dual power attack, which I've heard can be pretty devastating.

#13 Posted by DoubleKR (102 posts) -

@Ghost_Cat: How well is the Alchemy have yet to try. How do I learn potions, is it trial and error?

@Getz: I'm hip on the armor. I'm starting to lean toward barbarian because of the frustration.

@slacker4life: Might try restoration.

@LordXavierBritish: hmm wouldn't i need more Magic?

I've been dumping points into stamina and health. Dual wield, bow, armor, sneak, and a little smithing. Thats basically my character.

#14 Posted by Vager (1654 posts) -

Smithy can give you a really large boost to your armour rating and damage and it's very easy to level. Just buy leather and iron from the blacksmith and craft iron daggers/leather bracers.

With 100 smithy, notched pickaxe and, a smithy necklace, ring, gloves and potion. I made a weapon with 72 damage go to 179 damage. I'm pretty much unstoppable now.

#15 Posted by LordXavierBritish (6319 posts) -

@DoubleKR: Oakflesh is a novice level spell that gives instant +40 armor. If you wanted to invest 2 skill points in the tree you could easily cast Stoneflesh for 60 armor.

Stonflesh is 160 Mana to cost normally but with the perk that reduces Apprentice level spells it brings it down to 80 Mana. You're still going to get rocked in close quaters if you aren't careful, but it will make you a lot more durable without having to invest in armor.

If you are wearing cloth there is a perk in the Alteration tree that doubles the spell's power if you aren't wearing armor.

#16 Posted by DoubleKR (102 posts) -

@Vager: I know that I can make my weapons (Superior), but if I actually invest to say Elven or some perk like it can I get it the weapon higher? I'm really only doing it to add to my enchanted Armor and weapons.(ie. Dark Brotherhood stuff)

#17 Posted by Vager (1654 posts) -

@DoubleKR: Ya, if you invest in the Elven perk, bonuses for upgrading Elven stuff will be significantly higher. Which is what I did the get that huge upgrade bonus.

I'm not sure what the dark bother hood armour gives you but the Thief Guild's final armour set is pretty good, especially the boots and gloves. Gloves give you 20% to one-hand and lock picking, boots greatly decreases the chance that enemies see you while sneaking.

#18 Posted by Ghost_Cat (1482 posts) -

@DoubleKR: Well think of it this way: if you use healing spells, you are using up game-world time AND real-world time. Going into your inventory and using potions gives you instant effects, but pauses the battle for you to better plan out your next attack. This way, you don't have to waste MP on healing, and use it for more offensive purposes (if you use offensive magic). I don't dable too much in that skill tree, but the more you create stuff, the more potent they become (but dumping points to raise effectiveness is good). You learn potions through recipe lists, trail and error, books, and your environment.

#19 Posted by DoubleKR (102 posts) -

Thanks again guys, so much knowledge was just dropped. I can now continue my stealthy assassin lifestyle without fear of death. I'll continue with the smithing and start alchemy. anything else I should know?

#20 Posted by FoxMulder (1714 posts) -

@DoubleKR said:

Thanks again guys, so much knowledge was just dropped. I can now continue my stealthy assassin lifestyle without fear of death. I'll continue with the smithing and start alchemy. anything else I should know?

I know this a while after the fact but did all of this work out for you? I started the game as a Battle Mage, but recently started a Rogue build too and am having the exact same problems you had at the start. So I was just wondering if all of this worked out well for you! I really wanna continue my Rogue, but it is getting pretty frustrating at times!

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