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Edited by Trogd0r2

This just makes me want a Warcraft 4.

Posted by geirr

Orcs!

Edited by gallilee

Between this and Dans brave attempts at WoW makes me kinda want to install this again.

Posted by Zirilius

Man I can't be more pumped for this. Say what you want about the quality of the game but I still love WoW and I'm really like some of the changes they are implementing. I'm super depressed it so close to Dragon Age: Inquisition but I've definitely got a full winter ahead of me.

Posted by Gunder

That was cool.

Posted by TheAcidSkull

Haven't played WOW in a very, very long time but man you gotta love these Cinematic trailers. And I think I even killed that Giant demon with a two man army back in Burning Crusade.

Posted by HammondofTexas

@trogd0r2 said:

This just makes me want a Warcraft 4.

This.

Posted by dethmunky

My copy of Warcraft 3 is disappearing just like Marty McFly's family in the photo.

Posted by Peakborn

Yup, that was pretty neat.

Posted by MariachiMacabre

Yep. That was legitimately pretty awesome.

I'll probably end up checking this out.

Edited by heatDrive88

Orcs are still the coolest race, jussayin'.

Anyways, I'm a little confused by this lore - assuming that is indeed Grom Hellscream, Gul'Dan, and Mannoroth - wasn't the whole basis of WC3 based on Grom accepting and drinking the Blood of Mannoroth? Is this looking at like a canonical revision if Grom turned it down instead or something for the expansion?

Also, is that other orc at the end that pushed Grom out of the way Garrosh? Or someone else?

I'm confused... but goddamn do I still love the lore.

Edited by Gaff

My copy of Warcraft 3 is disappearing just like Marty McFly's family in the photo.

Does this mean I get back 6 years of my life?!

Posted by dethmunky
@gaff said:

@dethmunky said:

My copy of Warcraft 3 is disappearing just like Marty McFly's family in the photo.

Does this mean I get back 6 years of my life?!

It means you have to start those 6 years all over again!!!

Posted by Giefcookie

Orcs are still the coolest race, jussayin'.

Anyways, I'm a little confused by this lore - assuming that is indeed Grom Hellscream, Gul'Dan, and Mannoroth - wasn't the whole basis of WC3 based on Grom accepting and drinking the Blood of Mannoroth? Is this looking at like a canonical revision if Grom turned it down instead or something for the expansion?

I'm confused... but goddamn do I still love the lore.

From what I understand, it's time travel. At the end of the current Pandaria storyline Garrosh Hellscream is defeated by the players and imprisoned. A Bronze Dragon however frees him and using the dark portal transports him through time to the Draenor of 35(ish) years ago, before his father and the other orc leaders accept Mannoroths Blood (as depicted in the cinematic). Instead of the demonic blood, they use Garrosh's knowledge of tactics and advanced military technology to form the Iron Horde, imprison both Gul'Dan and Mannoroth under the Dark Portal to power it.

Posted by vikingdeath1

That's an Orc alright.

Posted by Glottery

Wellp, Blizzard still crushes any competition with their cinematics. Great throwbacks in it as well.

Edited by Dezinus

Cool visual callback to the Warcraft 3 cinematic there!

Posted by SpaceCouncil

goodbye next decade of my life

Posted by sephirm87

Alternate timelines and time travel stories are simultaneously the best and the worst.

Posted by SWD

@heatdrive88: It's time travel. Garrosh Hellscream has gone back in time and stopped the orcs from drinking the blood.

Posted by vulshock

I would rather have a Warcraft movie like this instead of one with real actors.

Posted by perilator666

@heatdrive88 said:

Orcs are still the coolest race, jussayin'.

Anyways, I'm a little confused by this lore - assuming that is indeed Grom Hellscream, Gul'Dan, and Mannoroth - wasn't the whole basis of WC3 based on Grom accepting and drinking the Blood of Mannoroth? Is this looking at like a canonical revision if Grom turned it down instead or something for the expansion?

I'm confused... but goddamn do I still love the lore.

From what I understand, it's time travel. At the end of the current Pandaria storyline Garrosh Hellscream is defeated by the players and imprisoned. A Bronze Dragon however frees him and using the dark portal transports him through time to the Draenor of 35(ish) years ago, before his father and the other orc leaders accept Mannoroths Blood (as depicted in the cinematic). Instead of the demonic blood, they use Garrosh's knowledge of tactics and advanced military technology to form the Iron Horde, imprison both Gul'Dan and Mannoroth under the Dark Portal to power it.

you just saved my brain from meltdown. thanks!

Posted by ViciousBearMauling

Grom Hellscream is radical. Too bad his son ended up being a huge ass.

Posted by Rorie

This pleases me.

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Posted by LiquidPrince

If the games looked 0.0000000001% as good as the trailers, I might be interested in playing them. Seeing the game now however, it just looks so bad visually, it really sucks any and all will from me to even attempt it. That and there are a ton of other great MMO's out there now which are free. The Star Wars one was pretty fun, and Guild Wars 2 was pretty great as well.

Edited by grillzz88

you pleases me.

Posted by Veektarius

They've cannibalized the lore set up in WC I-III that they have legitimately no loose threads left to build upon, I think - no surprise they've gone back in time.

Edited by heatDrive88

@heatdrive88 said:

Orcs are still the coolest race, jussayin'.

Anyways, I'm a little confused by this lore - assuming that is indeed Grom Hellscream, Gul'Dan, and Mannoroth - wasn't the whole basis of WC3 based on Grom accepting and drinking the Blood of Mannoroth? Is this looking at like a canonical revision if Grom turned it down instead or something for the expansion?

I'm confused... but goddamn do I still love the lore.

From what I understand, it's time travel. At the end of the current Pandaria storyline Garrosh Hellscream is defeated by the players and imprisoned. A Bronze Dragon however frees him and using the dark portal transports him through time to the Draenor of 35(ish) years ago, before his father and the other orc leaders accept Mannoroths Blood (as depicted in the cinematic). Instead of the demonic blood, they use Garrosh's knowledge of tactics and advanced military technology to form the Iron Horde, imprison both Gul'Dan and Mannoroth under the Dark Portal to power it.

Cripes. That's practically all I can say.

Thanks for the update, by the way. I've been out of the game since Burning Crusade - I had no idea Garrosh turned into such a dickhead.

Posted by Pepipopa

Grom looks like a fucking hobo. What the hell? He looks better in the Warcraft 3 Cinematic.

Posted by CaptainInvictus
@rorie said:

This pleases me.

Were you ever a Warcraft 1-3 follower, or did you start with WoW? As someone who grew up with 2 and a bit of 3 before moving into WoW, this is way cooler than it has any right to be, and makes me sad this isn't A: the movie, and B: it's WoW, which after Blizzard fucked me over with account restoration after it got hijacked during ~2 years I wasn't playing, I've vowed never to play again. Or at least pay Blizzard for the privilege to.

Posted by MythDarK

@heatdrive88 said:

Orcs are still the coolest race, jussayin'.

Anyways, I'm a little confused by this lore - assuming that is indeed Grom Hellscream, Gul'Dan, and Mannoroth - wasn't the whole basis of WC3 based on Grom accepting and drinking the Blood of Mannoroth? Is this looking at like a canonical revision if Grom turned it down instead or something for the expansion?

I'm confused... but goddamn do I still love the lore.

From what I understand, it's time travel. At the end of the current Pandaria storyline Garrosh Hellscream is defeated by the players and imprisoned. A Bronze Dragon however frees him and using the dark portal transports him through time to the Draenor of 35(ish) years ago, before his father and the other orc leaders accept Mannoroths Blood (as depicted in the cinematic). Instead of the demonic blood, they use Garrosh's knowledge of tactics and advanced military technology to form the Iron Horde, imprison both Gul'Dan and Mannoroth under the Dark Portal to power it.

But this must be way further back in time than Warcraft 3 (as referred to in the first post in this quote), at the time of Warcraft 2 lore?

In Warcraft 3, though, the orcs under Grom Hellscream's command, are offered to drink from the cursed demon blood again, if I remember correctly.

Posted by Baconbot

gimme dat warlords

Posted by l4wd0g

Blizzard has a real cinematic talent. They are the best in the industry

Posted by Nime

@liquidprince: Thats really a shame - I've always felt it holds up amazingly well. They get so much mileage out of the art style and it may not be the shiniest, but none of it ever looks _bad_ to me. I've also tried many other MMOs both free and subscription and while most are always fun for a month or two, WoW is always miles ahead in terms of depth and content and sheer fun in my opinion and I never feel the cost is undeserved.

Edited by dekinblues

Ok, I liked the parallel there between the original cinematic where Grom dies and this time when Garrosh jumped in to save him.

Posted by MrMazz

I love these cinematics

Posted by winsol

@heatdrive88: It's an alternate time line, Garrosh goes back in time and warns his Father not to accept Gul'dans offer. The events of the original games and wow still happened, but there is now an alternate timeline.

Posted by Efesell

November is way longer than I would have thought considering the current content drought.

Can't wait though.

Edited by Giefcookie

@mythdark: Grom's forces are building a Horde settlement in Ashenvale when Cenarius comes to wreck them. In desperation they seek the corrupted spring without knowing that Mannoroth had spilt his blood into it to tempt them. In order to beat Cenarius Grom chooses to drink from it knowing it might be corrupted, and after they kill Cenarius Mannoroth comes to claim them.

Thrall then redeems his soul with the aid of Jaina in one of the most annoying RTS missions ever.

Posted by Anobix

@vulshock said:

I would rather have a Warcraft movie like this instead of one with real actors.

You and me both. I can't imagine how much money it would cost to make a 90 minute movie out of the art from these cinematics, but I'd watch it for sure.

Posted by Rorie

@rorie said:

This pleases me.

Were you ever a Warcraft 1-3 follower, or did you start with WoW? As someone who grew up with 2 and a bit of 3 before moving into WoW, this is way cooler than it has any right to be, and makes me sad this isn't A: the movie, and B: it's WoW, which after Blizzard fucked me over with account restoration after it got hijacked during ~2 years I wasn't playing, I've vowed never to play again. Or at least pay Blizzard for the privilege to.

I played them all and liked 3 a bunch. Haven't ever cared for the lore very much, but these cinematics are pretty great.

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Posted by perilator666

@anobix said:

@vulshock said:

I would rather have a Warcraft movie like this instead of one with real actors.

You and me both. I can't imagine how much money it would cost to make a 90 minute movie out of the art from these cinematics, but I'd watch it for sure.

im pretty sure 90 percent of that movie is going to be cg anyway.

Edited by GunsAreDrawn

Loved that shot that was referencing Warcraft 3 where Grom Hellscream gets killed by Manaroth exploding. I haven't played WoW since Wrath (and that was a free trial) but the story in this seems like something I want to experience for myself. It seems to be a bit fan service-y but Warcraft 3 was my first PC game and because they're tying the two stories together it seems like it will be a great expansion.

It's also nice that they brought back the old composer to do the music because the newer music hasn't been so hot. The only down side to this is that Grom isn't voiced by the original voice actor, all orcs seem to sound pretty generic now - with the exception of Thrall.

Posted by Nux

I wish WoW looked this good.

Posted by Efesell

@nux said:

I wish WoW looked this good.

So do I, but the new work they've been doing on the models at least means it will finally look better than the last..decade.

Posted by Ares42

Time travel.. seriously ? I guess it's always been there in the background, but damn.. what a "great" way to completely muddle up the lore.

But hey, I guess they gotta find some kinda way for people to get to fight and interact with all the characters they know and love. It's becoming a recurring theme though, I don't know how many times they've gone back to the roots at this point...

Posted by Irvandus

I love me some warcraft cheese.

Posted by Zirilius

Cripes. That's practically all I can say.

Thanks for the update, by the way. I've been out of the game since Burning Crusade - I had no idea Garrosh turned into such a dickhead.

He's quite possibly the biggest dickhead in all of WoW. I'm glad that we got the chance to crush him in Pandaria.

I'll be interested in Thrall's role in Draenor. I know its stupid to preorder this but I'd like that free level 90 boost to get a shaman ready.

Edited by Greenshoes

Nice callback.

Posted by cloudymusic

And when they get back to Azeroth, it's completely different and Murlocs run the world, thanks to all of this timeline muddling.

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