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The slow burn shit of the '70s and '80s was the best. I much prefer the slow buildup to the onslaught of flashy images you get today. I actually find the pace to be fun and tense and not boring at all.

Posted by vikingdeath1

AWOOOOOOOO!

Posted by isomeri

I had a memory-card for the Xbox 360 and I'm not sure if I used it even once.

Posted by TournamentOfHate

Only a minute in, at least now we can see both of you at the same time.

Posted by LoktarOgar

Sony already has Everybody's Golf/Hot Shots Golf.

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@patrickklepek: I think you may have hit that point where when you shave that you're going to think you look weird without it.

...especially the 'stache. The 'stache'll get you.

Posted by crithon

I love that realization patrick has when alex says "I watched ghostbusters" which is really like "why am I watching this irredeemable crap when I could be watching something fun."

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So what Alex is saying, the WWE should hire bioware to write the wrastlin' story lines. Mite b cool.

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Yeah - Yaiba isn't for sensitive people. Looks pretty good, in a stupid sort of way.

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Got to say that im loving scoops and the wolf. Keep up the good work.

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@patrickklepek, Nintendoland also uses the dual-analog control scheme for two independent characters in the Animal Crossing minigame.

Posted by TournamentOfHate

What would the South Park guys move onto if no more South Park? Chances aren't very high of them doing another movie since they really don't like how the whole process works for that in Hollywood, it took them 7 years to make Book Of Mormon, and even this game has taken many years. The reason why they stick with South Park is because they think they have the best job in Hollywood, like Patrick said they can do whatever they want(the one exception being the 200th episode with the Muhammad stuff). I'm sure they'll do something other than the show at some point, but they love doing it.

Posted by happymeowmeow

I'm bummed about nintendo taking the spotpass feature out of swapnote, I used it all the time.

Not a huge wrestling fan, but I don't think it takes one to see that most of the appeal is the pageantry and drama. The actual grapplin and tossin take a back seat. Just look at how popular VGCW has gotten: no one is tuning in for the wrestling, which is usually borky AI spinning around in place or exiting and entering the ring for no reason. They really need to focus on the everything but the wrestling, and expand the creation tools.

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I think you guys took a pretty fair spot on it all, but seeing sites like Ars Technica come out and bitch about people considering the resolution difference important was just weird. That's a site that lives on weirdly specific technical benchmarking and reviewing differences in specs. It struck a lot of people as hypocritical all around.

To be honest, though, I have a difficult time blaming people for taking a frustrated attitude toward the games press. We were told Sony was going to have the same kind of DRM, and then they didn't. When people said Microsoft's weird multi-OS, TV, Kinect approach to their system was going to detract from what their games could look like, they were dismissed, and now seem to be correct. When everyone was freaking out over the severity of the Xbox One's DRM, people were told by the press to calm down and wait for the details because it probably wouldn't be as bad as we thought.. and then it was as bad as forumers thought.

And now after spending much of the year preaching about how the games will be equivalent and the hardware difference couldn't possibly be so wide, it turns out there are actual, substantial technical differences and all the hardware (ES Ram) problems rumor mongers were talking about with Microsoft have come to light afterall. At every stage when people were told by the press that these unconventional notions and rumors wouldn't be true, the press has moved the goalposts and pleaded for everyone to wait for more details. The press seems to believe that it's better to be conventionally wrong, than unconventionally right.

I have never seen the press and their respective audiences be so widely and consistently off base from one another. It's like they're speaking in completely different languages to one another. It's that sort of unfortunate stuff that leads to this sort of resentment and anger.

Posted by Krakn3Dfx

@marokai: I'd like to be able to peak into our mirror universe where MS put the time in and came out ahead of Sony by a substantial margin while Sony put more time into gimmicks than developing the hardware to push the envelope in console gaming. I'm pretty sure it would be a different tune about how Sony came up short yet again and MS have redefined gaming.

Sony spent the last 7 year scratching their way back from the point of obsolescence to a position where they can compete in the console market, and they deserve to be recognized, but it's just easier for press who have spent the better part of a decade suckling on the 360 teat to dismiss their accomplishments. Disgusting.

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Disappointed to hear Titanfall is a permanent exclusive like that.

Granted, far more people will be playing that game on Xbox 360 than Xbox One anyway... so not showing up on PS4 will probably end up being less important than one might think.

But it still seems dumb.

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@Typing of the Dead PR: All the tut-tutting over anxiety over Atlus' fate under Sega's wing continues to make me wince.

@70s movies: It's called "good pacing for what movie they're making". It's called the era of directors for a reason and this era ain't, ya know? :P

@marokai said:

I think you guys took a pretty fair spot on it all, but seeing sites like Ars Technica come out and bitch about people considering the resolution difference important was just weird. That's a site that lives on weirdly specific technical benchmarking and reviewing differences in specs. It struck a lot of people as hypocritical all around.

To be honest, though, I have a difficult time blaming people for taking a frustrated attitude toward the games press. We were told Sony was going to have the same kind of DRM, and then they didn't. When people said Microsoft's weird multi-OS, TV, Kinect approach to their system was going to detract from what their games could look like, they were dismissed, and now seem to be correct. When everyone was freaking out over the severity of the Xbox One's DRM, people were told by the press to calm down and wait for the details because it probably wouldn't be as bad as we thought.. and then it was as bad as forumers thought.

And now after spending much of the year preaching about how the games will be equivalent and the hardware difference couldn't possibly be so wide, it turns out there are actual, substantial technical differences and all the hardware (ES Ram) problems rumor mongers were talking about with Microsoft have come to light afterall. At every stage when people were told by the press that these unconventional notions and rumors wouldn't be true, the press has moved the goalposts and pleaded for everyone to wait for more details. The press seems to believe that it's better to be conventionally wrong, than unconventionally right.

And it's the oddest thing. I keep pointing out that everyone save the most strident Sony fanboys at least admitted the PS3 was a bust for its first 2 years of life, but why does MS get this kind of buffer from so many? I still have not gotten the answer to this, and no one's ever tried beyond "M$ FANBOYS LOLZ". Is it the lack of being the driving force on this? Is it personal love for the 360? Feeling Sony's play in the hardware, the software, and the marketing being too good to be true? Secret yearnings for an all-digital, all-connected box?

This isnt' about 8 years out (PS3 sales > 360 sales and all that) it's about making peace about what we KNOW now, from Anandandandandandandtech, large 3rd parties working on launch games, and official Sony and MS output.

I'm seriously just flummoxed at this fearful, tearful naysaying of the rumors as they became news as they became official MS/3rd party PR. It is wierd.

Note also I myself isn't touching a Gen 8 console other than my trusty 3DS XL and a new monitor.

That said: Scoops, Brad's not defending your truly even assessment too well in other places. :\

Posted by spraynardtatum

I have to disagree with Alex wholeheartedly on South Park being disappointing this season. It's been great except the goth kids one. I think that show is at its peak right now. Some of the best comedy ever written.

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@krakn3dfx said:

@marokai: I'd like to be able to peak into our mirror universe where MS put the time in and came out ahead of Sony by a substantial margin while Sony put more time into gimmicks than developing the hardware to push the envelope in console gaming. I'm pretty sure it would be a different tune about how Sony came up short yet again and MS have redefined gaming.

Sony spent the last 7 year scratching their way back from the point of obsolescence to a position where they can compete in the console market, and they deserve to be recognized, but it's just easier for press who have spent the better part of a decade suckling on the 360 teat to dismiss their accomplishments. Disgusting.

The press would be saying "Microsoft once again has shown to be the definitive platform for multiplatform games" instead of saying "The difference doesn't matter". The difference in attitude from the press between the 360/PS3 generation and PS4/XB1 generation multiplatform games is some pretty hypocritical bullshit.

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@satelliteoflove: That's the thing, I'm not saying this as any kind of fanboy, I barely touched my Ps3 until the last few years, I own probably four or five times as many 360 games as Ps3 games, I've spent many times the amount of hours gaming on a 360 than a Ps3. It's just that all of this barely makes sense to me. When Sony fucks up, everyone rightly calls them out. The guys here still come down hard on Sony for stupid shit they pulled 7-8 years ago, but everything Microsoft has done this year has has been given the benefit of the doubt.

I'm not asking them to pick a side, I don't even think of this as "sides" and think people who think of this that way are creepy weirdos. And in comparison to most other places going crazy on this stuff, Alex and Patrick have been some of the most reasonable. I just wish we could agree on technical performance and agree on what the news actually is without all the "if"s "and"s and "but"s. Who even cares if you see the difference or not; what matters is that it exists.

Everyone here can agree that the fanboys are out of line and nuts, but why are they given so much power in this conversation that Brad and others are so defensive and careful about what they say because they don't want to be seen as agreeing with them, that we're now arguing over whether 1080p is better than 720p? Just call things as they are without trying to get the last word in or something. And how many rumors have to become true before we start accepting that "insiders" might know a thing or two?

Posted by Korwin

Man... I'd completely forgotten that the Pocketstation existed. Excuse me while I go train my Chocobo.

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There's no Animated Giff support, but there's definitely Animated Jiff support

Posted by dr_mantas

You're horribly offensive.

Online
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Damn you Google Hangout! I hate change!

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Rosemary's Baby is one of the best horror films ever.

Posted by VolPett

Patrick looks like an angel sent from heaven with his white hoodie and headset.

Posted by ninjalegend

I think it is grossly negligent when the games media downplays the difference that the better ram in the PS4 will make. If you are that technically challenged, don't comment on it at all. Of course third party companies that want to sell copies of their games for both systems will say it is negligible. If this is important to you, do your research.

Patrick had a very good point about the lack of a hard drive on all 360s crippling early third party games for both systems. Game worlds may be less detailed or the games might have the protagonist/car/whatever move slower to keep the frame rate/pop in more even on both systems because of the Xbox's inferior specs. Memory does not just effect screen resolution. That's kind of a bummer.

As much as I loved playing as Trever in GTA 5, there is just a gross factor in the Yabia game. Why I did not take offense to playing a a sociopathic walking rape threat that is Trever is exactly as the guys pointed out. Smart writing.

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Patrick pimpin the PS4. Awesome Baby! Big shocker. Would have never guessed.

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@marokai said:

I think you guys took a pretty fair spot on it all, but seeing sites like Ars Technica come out and bitch about people considering the resolution difference important was just weird. That's a site that lives on weirdly specific technical benchmarking and reviewing differences in specs. It struck a lot of people as hypocritical all around.

To be honest, though, I have a difficult time blaming people for taking a frustrated attitude toward the games press. We were told Sony was going to have the same kind of DRM, and then they didn't. When people said Microsoft's weird multi-OS, TV, Kinect approach to their system was going to detract from what their games could look like, they were dismissed, and now seem to be correct. When everyone was freaking out over the severity of the Xbox One's DRM, people were told by the press to calm down and wait for the details because it probably wouldn't be as bad as we thought.. and then it was as bad as forumers thought.

And now after spending much of the year preaching about how the games will be equivalent and the hardware difference couldn't possibly be so wide, it turns out there are actual, substantial technical differences and all the hardware (ES Ram) problems rumor mongers were talking about with Microsoft have come to light afterall. At every stage when people were told by the press that these unconventional notions and rumors wouldn't be true, the press has moved the goalposts and pleaded for everyone to wait for more details. The press seems to believe that it's better to be conventionally wrong, than unconventionally right.

I have never seen the press and their respective audiences be so widely and consistently off base from one another. It's like they're speaking in completely different languages to one another. It's that sort of unfortunate stuff that leads to this sort of resentment and anger.

This post is deservedly famous now. Well done. I just hope the Giant Bomb guys actually read it and take it on board.

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Really enjoying these podcasts but is there any way you could turn up the volume, yours is the only podcast I struggle to hear over city back noise on my commute even with it turned all the way up.

Edit: Sorry was referring to the audio versions.

Posted by Jaxley

How come the audio is so much better in the podcast version? It'd be cool if the videos sounded just as silky smooth.

Posted by Capsule667

This is my workout show. I stretch those pecs and lats to the your guys' delightful back and forth about the state of gaming. It's sharp and awake, the perfect thing you need in the morning.

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@jaxley said:

How come the audio is so much better in the podcast version? It'd be cool if the videos sounded just as silky smooth.

I believe the video is just what comes out of their live Google Hangout chat, and the podcast is locally recorded audio edited together by Patrick. So that's why it sounds better, with no internet getting in the way.