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Edited by Dan_CiTi

I'll get it.

Posted by magus213

Looks like a bootleg Puzzle Quest with Mario stamped over it.

Posted by VierasTalo

Heee-y Vinny

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Posted by LarryDavis

I'm with Max Temkin on the subject of Puzzles and Dragons.

Posted by Mr_Creeper
Posted by Naoiko

I'd give it a shot.

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Posted by AtomicEdge

So... I played P&D for a while, and it was pretty fun, but I always felt like I should spend money or *shudder* interact with people people to get the proper gameplay curve.

I assume this doesn't have Michael Transaction in it?

If so, I could be pretty excited about this!

Fingers crossed for a western release!

Edited by Lausebub

Nintendo investors definitely freaked out for a second there.

EDIT: @atomicedge P&D Z for the 3DS does not feature Michael, I think.

Posted by KaneRobot

Hey guys, it's a post from Vinny Caravella from giantbomb.com!

Posted by MjHealy

Vinny, I love you, but where is the capitalization? PATRICK KLEPEK IS SPINNING IN HIS GRAVE

Posted by Vinny

@mjhealy said:

Vinny, I love you, but where is the capitalization? PATRICK KLEPEK IS SPINNING IN HIS GRAVE

I fixed this. For you! And because of my love for Patrick and hate of spinning.

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Posted by Kayrack

bring it on !

Posted by Bicycle_Repairman
@vinny said:

@mjhealy said:

Vinny, I love you, but where is the capitalization? PATRICK KLEPEK IS SPINNING IN HIS GRAVE

I fixed this. For you! And because of my love for Patrick and hate of spinning.

@vinny, You remember spinning is just sitting on a fitness bike right? I hope you remember Alex's wise words on the subject.

Posted by Homelessbird

Ya know what? I think I will genuinely like this game more with Mario characters and art than with anime dragons.

Posted by Pudge

Isn't this usually a phone game? Why would I buy a phone game at retail for the 3DS?

Posted by Vessel28

As someone who has never played a P&D game, this looks pretty fun. I take it, it's some sort of puzzle rpg?

Posted by MormonWarrior

Huh. Yeah I'd try this out if it comes to the US.

Posted by TheTerribleFamiliar

I want it! It's been years since I played Puzzle Quest. I'm ready for this. Bring it over!

Posted by ph00p

First impression, waaaait a minute this is going to be a cartridge game???!!! F that! Then the gameplay started and now I NEED THIS SO HARD! This better make it over here. This will give me the fix that the horrid Puzzle Quest Marvel Pay to Win doesn't give me.

Posted by RCCRF

@magus213 said:

Looks like a bootleg Puzzle Quest with Mario stamped over it.

That is kind of what it is, but in the same shitty F2P vein as Candy Crush, where you can't advance without dropping some real hard cash. It does that annoying thing where it gives you a crap ton of rare gems (the only kind that shows up in rare occasions or you could drop money on) and then forces you to waist them as part of a tutorial thing.

Posted by KDR_11k

Apparently it has no microtransactions, I wonder if you buy stuff with Play Coins instead?

Posted by flameraven

next up, Monster Strike X Pokemon collab! (shit i actually want that)

Posted by Eribuster

@vessel28 said:

As someone who has never played a P&D game, this looks pretty fun. I take it, it's some sort of puzzle rpg?

Yup! The Puzzle Quest comparison earlier in the comments is apt. However, in Puzzle & Dragon you shift a piece on a time limit and can move any number of pieces to other positions on one of your turns. Your party of monsters will then do a calculated amount of damage based on the matches of three or more you get.

It's a fun concept that plays well. The RPG progression of your monster party is where the F2P hooks are dangled in the mobile game. That shouldn't be present in the 3DS game.

Posted by pkmango7

Is Birdo a Godfest exclusive?

Edited by T_wester

So instead of Mario games on the phone, we get phone games with Mario on the 3ds.

Edited by Doskias

@pudge said:

Isn't this usually a phone game? Why would I buy a phone game at retail for the 3DS?

I assume Nintendo is hoping your answer is, "because it's got Mario in it."

Posted by Morka

Oh crap, i need this. Now!

Edited by JonDo

I'm not even really still enthralled with Nintendo as an adult, OR puzzle games (wasn't P&D bad f2p model, I heard, too?)...

This looks like it has a good shot to be really fun. I won't be able to buy a 3DS for it (unrelated, can't hold things up like that or look down on my lap)... but have fun!

Posted by Lausebub

@doskias said:

@pudge said:

Isn't this usually a phone game? Why would I buy a phone game at retail for the 3DS?

I assume Nintendo is hoping your answer is, "because it's got Mario in it."

Puzzles & Dragons Z, a full priced 3DS version of the mobile phone game, sold more than one million copies in Japan. That's more than any PS3 game sold, to give that a number more meaning. Sure, it's not powered by micro transactions and it doesn't match the sales of a Pokémon, Yokai Watch or Monster Hunter, but it's one of the best selling console games of 2013. That's some money.

Posted by Benmo316

I just want that new 3DS. Having tried Puzzles and Dragons on my phone I thought it was OK. Throw a Mario skin over it and I may be a little more interested.

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@lausebub said:

@doskias said:

@pudge said:

Isn't this usually a phone game? Why would I buy a phone game at retail for the 3DS?

I assume Nintendo is hoping your answer is, "because it's got Mario in it."

Puzzles & Dragons Z, a full priced 3DS version of the mobile phone game, sold more than one million copies in Japan. That's more than any PS3 game sold, to give that a number more meaning. Sure, it's not powered by micro transactions and it doesn't match the sales of a Pokémon, Yokai Watch or Monster Hunter, but it's one of the best selling console games of 2013. That's some money.

Oh, no microtransactions? Alright. That makes a bit more sense then. Mario Puzzle Quest doesn't sound so bad if I can actually finish the levels without paying $1 each or some crap.

Posted by artraider

the version of the melody makes me think of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mO26RQkfID8

Posted by SKUupin

I still don't understand how low-cost or f2p phone games can be sold as full price retail games. I'm not saying that such games might not be worth it, but is this really selling for full price just because it's a phone game with Mario?

Posted by Accolade

Getting the same experience from Doctor Who Legacy. And that seems more appropriate.

Posted by Seeric

@atomicedge:

@rccrf said:

@magus213 said:

Looks like a bootleg Puzzle Quest with Mario stamped over it.

It does that annoying thing where it gives you a crap ton of rare gems (the only kind that shows up in rare occasions or you could drop money on) and then forces you to waist them as part of a tutorial thing.

I think this is somewhat unfair to the game largely for two reasons. First, while a lot of games that do that have you spend the cash shop money on something terrible (ex: instantly completing a low-level building), Puzzle & Dragons has you use it on the premium gachapon machine to get a random monster of tier 3 or higher; it's pretty much the only thing you'd really want to spend your cash shop money on in the first place. Secondly, while it does slow down later on, the game spews cash shop money at you as you get a 'magic stone' after completing each region (about 3-5 fairly short stages usually) as well as for various seasonal events (you need 5 magic stones to use the premium gachapon); if you want the rarest, highest-tier stuff from the gachapon chances are you'll need to spend real money, but it's actually pretty generous and gives you enough to make a decent team even if your luck is terrible.

As to it being a 'bootleg Puzzle Quest', I'd say it's in the same genre (subgenre?), but is a substantially different game. There are a lot of little differences, such as the existence of a party, the fact that enemies attack after X number of turns rather than using pieces on the board, and the substantially smaller board size. The big difference between the two is in how Puzzle Quest more closely resembles Bejeweled by forcing players to swap two adjacent pieces to make a 3+ piece combo while Puzzle & Dragons has players choose a piece to freely drag around within a time limit, swapping the positions of other pieces as it moves to create as many combos as possible.

This particular version of the game also seems to make some of its own changes judging by this trailer as there appears to be a larger party size and an actual world map with optional stages and probably at least a paper-thin plot. I don't like Puzzle & Dragons so much that I'd toss $40+ at a Mario version of it (though it's popular enough, especially in Japan, that I'm sure more than a few people would), but I can see it being worth $10-20.

Posted by RCCRF

@seeric: Yeah, totally don't agree with the Puzzle Quest comparison, since P&D allows you to move a piece and not have it do anything to set up a huge chain later on, and you can pretty much drag a piece to anywhere on the board. Where Puzzle Quest is adhering to the Bejeweled rules of gameplay.

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