Metal Gear Solid V or The Phantom Pain or Whatever They'll Eventually Call It: Debut Trailer

@Penzilneck said:

At the 33 second mark and then along with the title card, a few bars of Chopin are played. In Eternal Sonata, Chopin's character apparently had a special attack called Phantom Pain.

Super bizarre.

The trailer looks awesome, despite the hate for the MGS games I find them to be quite brilliant.

Seems pretty obviously an MGS game but the conversation I keep having with my buddies that are also MGS nerds is whether or not this is Ground Zeroes and if not does that mean there are essentially three MGS games currently in the works? The thought of that makes my pants tight.

There's a thread on neogaf that basically confirms this is another MGS game. Here's the quick bullet points:

- Continued play on "phantom", where "Two Phantoms were born" stands as the tagline for Ground Zeroes' first concept material.

- Volgin lookalike wreathed in flames.

- Hallucinating petals straight from MGS3's climax.

- Floating figure with audible breaths muffled by mask, ala Psycho Mantis.

- Similar facial scars between in-game model and Snake concept art for Ground Zeroes.

- That fucking mullet.

- Joakim Mogren, where Joakim is an anagram for Kojima.

Well let's try to make some sense out of this: Kojima stated that MGS: Ground Zeroes is a 'prologue' to MGSV, and it takes place after the latest portable installment of MGS (Peace Walker I think?), therefore it takes place before Big Boss becomes the leader of FoxHound in the original Metal Gear and all that stuff, which would make this game take place after Ground Zeroes and just before Foxhound, my question then is:

Since when is Big Boss missing a hand?

@development said:

So from what I gather, it's a full-length tactical microwave tunnel espionage experience where you play as Kurt Cobain, who for some reason has been given a claw prosthetic even though patients today are given almost fully-functional carbon-fiber arms.

That assumes the game takes place today, if this is Big boss it could be the 70's, 80's or 90's.

@paulmako: There is a Psycho mantis type character in this trailer so it's pretty likely he could mess around with the players head. Sorrow did some of that in MGS3 to a lesser extent.

@Dallas_Raines: I agree that most of the Metal Gear bosses (and actually, everything about it) has also been a bit ridiculous. I mean, they are generally awesome characters but yeah. one of them uses swarms as bees as weapons.

With that said however, the flame animals and the giant flaming skywhale do seem to be out of place. A lot of the weird characters before are people who have somehow altered bodies. That's generally the extent of it. They never really mess with animals or anything, not even in Snake Eater. So my guess is seeing those flamamals is drug induced or coma induced or both.

Even if its not MGS 5 it still looks promising.

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@FearMyFlop said:

There's a giant sky whale on fire. I mean can that really be in the MGS universe? As ridiculous as the games got they did try to keep it in a certain realm of realism. Unless this is all taking place in coma.

In MGS 3, you fought a Ghost Man, a Lightning Man and a Bee Man. Metal Gear Solid is a cartoon.

There's a giant sky whale on fire. I mean can that really be in the MGS universe? As ridiculous as the games got they did try to keep it in a certain realm of realism. Unless this is all taking place in coma.

@crusader8463 said:

I wondered what this was during the VGA's.

A remake of the beginning of Max Payne 2 which then turns into Manhunt 3! Obviously!

@Max_Cherry said:

I loved the fucking sky, whale.

In any other context, that comma I added would make this such a more interesting piece of dialogue.

@tourgen said:

@Pullarius_Capax said:

The only metal gear connection I see is the mullet. The fact that that whale and unicorn weren't robots is making me suspicious.

that's one thing I can respect in the metal gear series. awesome mullets. hell yeah

Awesome 1980's anime mullets.

I loved the fucking sky whale.

@Pullarius_Capax said:

The only metal gear connection I see is the mullet. The fact that that whale and unicorn weren't robots is making me suspicious.

that's one thing I can respect in the metal gear series. awesome mullets. hell yeah

Interesting

At the 33 second mark and then along with the title card, a few bars of Chopin are played. In Eternal Sonata, Chopin's character apparently had a special attack called Phantom Pain.

Oh look a whale.

The On Your Feet dialogue is from World at War.

Oh God, i just re-watched this trailer and saw something that has RUINED it for me FOREVER!

The guy with the bandaged head it wearing a robe, and you can see his butt crack throughout the ENTIRE trailer, once you see it, you can't look away.

Damn it KOJIMA!!!

@GasparNolasco said:

@hollitz: It's definitely a game set in the futuristic MGS universe, and they already announced that Ground Zeroes is a setup for Metal Gear Solid 5.

I find hard to believe they would be working on 3 high budget MG games at the same time so I'd guess this one is MGS5

@Slayeric: unless they call it metal gear solid 5 : phantom pain, and change studio name to moby dick studios this is a viral video, the fact that they might be using footage from the game, (which we won't know till it's out,) might blur the lines between viral and real trailer, but theres no evidence that any of the footage is from the game yet.

Given Kojimas insanity this might also be a video within a video situation, like all that fake tv in mgs 4 but again no evidence of that either.

And yes i know the guy looks like big boss but that doesn't mean it's from the game.

@DarthB said:

Is it just me or does it seem like the bit of VO at the end gets cut off? I'm not just talking about this version on giantbomb, but this same trailer on every site I've seen does it. What gives?

I was trying to figure out what the VO at the end was; probably cut off like that on purpose. Sounded like something in Russian? I dunno. This whole trailer is bananas.

Got some weird breakdown vibes from this. looking good :)

@ExplodeMode: Good one, I was more thinking about this particular clip though

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVke__4OZ-0

I'M A MONSTER!

Not sure if this has been brought up, but I don't think the hexagon floor tiles are a coincidence. I think it's a reference to MGS2 and The Big Shell.

I'm rapidly approaching my limit for how many Metal Gear products I can pay attention to within a given 5-year period.

@Pullarius_Capax said:

The only metal gear connection I see is the mullet. The fact that that whale and unicorn weren't robots is making me suspicious.

Obviously it's because the whale and unicorn were both cloned from the same robot.

Well whatever it is, it looks compelling and beautiful. Hopefully trailer quality translates to game quality.

So from what I gather, it's a full-length tactical microwave tunnel espionage experience where you play as Kurt Cobain, who for some reason has been given a claw prosthetic even though patients today are given almost fully-functional carbon-fiber arms.

When I first saw this trailer I though it was related to MGS, not because of all the clues people have discovered but I though the aesthetics were very similar to those on the Ground Zeroes trailer, the lighting, the textures, the cloth physics and beard technology are almost the same and the camera work is very similar. I though maybe it was a new game using the same engine, but seeing that it was a different studio confused me...later when people started saying is probably a MGSV trailer it made a lot of sense to me.

@hollitz: It's definitely a game set in the futuristic MGS universe, and they already announced that Ground Zeroes is a setup for Metal Gear Solid 5.

I find hard to believe they would be working on 3 high budget MG games at the same time so I'd guess this one is MGS5

Well if this is an MGS game, I'm assuming that facility is the cloning lab where they made Liquid and Solid. Les Enfants Terible or whatever the french phrase is. Looks fucking rad.

@BigBoss1911: But you know MGS trailers tend to be misleading at the beginning. Specially about who the main character is supposed to be...

Anyway, I'm just happy seeing that another MG is on it's way.

I find this trailer super unsettling, almost to the point where I think that it's wasted on the Metal Gear franchise. Looks like it'd make a solid horror thing.

Counting on crazy Kojima being a genius again! Military games need to escape the trend they are going in right now, a little injection of creativity would be welcome.

@ the 2:55 mark... Look at the feet that rise from the ground, then hover over head. Thats some creepy sh!t. (I mean so are the Flaming Helicopter eating Whale and Unicorn )

@ExplodeMode said:

@civid said:

That fake arm reminded me of Buster from Arrested Development. Made me laugh, which I guess wasn't really the point of the trailer

"Brother!"

I'd play that game.

Lol this made my day. "Buster Bluth Studios"

Now that Ive seen it, sure as hell looks like a metal gear game to me.

Beard, mullet, bandage over right eye, it has to be Big Boss not snake.

@outerabiz said:

@Slayeric said:

@outerabiz said:

this isn't a trailer for the next metal gear.

And there is so much substantial evidence dug up by the internet that tells us that this sentence is incorrect.

this is as much a trailer for metal gear as that is for bulletstorm.

Not saying it's not related but viral marketing for something is not the same as a trailer. Therefore it is not a trailer for metal gear.

Still incorrect. Viral Marketing. Trolling. Whatever you want to call it. At the end of the day this is footage of a Metal Gear Solid game of some type, there are clues all around the internet (websites, facebook pages, twitter posts) that are there for fans to puzzle together to reach the final conclusion: That's a new MGS. (or more footage of Ground Zeroes. HELL I DONT KNOW ANYMORE.)

@Rox360 said:

Whatever this trailer is actually for, I have to say it's damn well made. Spooky. Intriguing. I haven't felt intrigued by a new game in a long time, so major props for that.

This sums up how I feel as well. If Kojima can do one thing really well it's get me hyped for his new game.

Keifer Sutherland in the VO cast? YES PLEASE.

Fucking fire whale

@civid said:

That fake arm reminded me of Buster from Arrested Development. Made me laugh, which I guess wasn't really the point of the trailer

"Brother!"

I'd play that game.

METAL GEAR!?

Whatever this trailer is actually for, I have to say it's damn well made. Spooky. Intriguing. I haven't felt intrigued by a new game in a long time, so major props for that.

@civid: ? :)

@outerabiz said:

@Slayeric said:

@outerabiz said:

this isn't a trailer for the next metal gear.

And there is so much substantial evidence dug up by the internet that tells us that this sentence is incorrect.

this is as much a trailer for metal gear as that is for bulletstorm.

Not saying it's not related but viral marketing for something is not the same as a trailer. Therefore it is not a trailer for metal gear.

You know that that's not a very good comparison, right? For starters, the Phantom Pain trailer is not referencing any existing material that we know of AND it stars the main character of the game.

I haven't watched, but I'm excited. Ground zeroes looks super good, plus we get a brand new numbered Metal Gear? Awesome.