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@Catolf: Indeed. I can't stand people who start whining because they jumped to conclusions about it being an RPG (even though they made it clear from the start it wouldn't be!) and then go around whining because their false expectations weren't met. Even worse when they try to act like everyone feels the same way.

I love RPGs. I love Atlus RPGs even more. However I'm happy Catherine is not an RPG, because I also happen to like puzzle games. (Among other genres.)
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Posted by Max_Hydrogen
@Catolf:

Do you claim to speak for the masses? How do you know what everyone thinks?
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@Zeik:

Expectations can't be false when you watch trailers that depict a story and NEVER show you any glimpse of the lame puzzle gameplay. If I advertised a game using cut scenes from Command & Conquer and then later reveal that the actual game you will play is Tetris, then one couldn't be blamed for one's disappointment.

You also claim to speak for the majority? Check out all the negative comments on the first Catherin Quick Look and make sure to note how interested the Giantbomb staff was about this game, based on the trailers which engendered certain EXPECTATIONS, and how that interest turned to disappointment when they found out that it is just a lame puzzle game. I think most of the Giantbomb community agrees with the staff: let down!
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@Max_Hydrogen: If you expected it to be an RPG then yes, your expectations were false. One of the very first things they ever mentioned about Catherine was that it was going to a "Horror/Action-Adventure". Now it's true that they gave no indication that it was in fact an "action-puzzle/adventure" game, which was definitely a bad move on their part, but there was one thing that was clear: Catherine was not an RPG. And look, it's not an RPG.

Also you're new to the Internet aren't you? Of course there were negative comments, there's always negative comments, especially when we're talking about a niche game like Catherine. This game is not meant to appeal to everyone. Atlus has made it clear that the target demographic for this game is not the same as for their Persona games or any of their other RPGs.
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@Max_Hydrogen said:

@Zeik:

Expectations can't be false when you watch trailers that depict a story and NEVER show you any glimpse of the lame puzzle gameplay. If I advertised a game using cut scenes from Command & Conquer and then later reveal that the actual game you will play is Tetris, then one couldn't be blamed for one's disappointment.

It was known since november last year that Catherine would be a puzzle platformer, and they have been showing footage of it ever since. You have no one to blame but yourself on that front.

 and make sure to note how interested the Giantbomb staff was about this game, based on the trailers which engendered certain EXPECTATIONS, and how that interest turned to 



.....Also notice, how Jeff and Vinny, the only ones on that couch who were actually interested in the game before that quick look, knew what to expect.

@Zeik

said:

@Max_Hydrogen:

Also you're new to the Internet aren't you? Of course there were negative comments, there's always negative comments, especially when we're talking about a niche game like Catherine. This game is not meant to appeal to everyone. Atlus has made it clear that the target demographic for this game is not the same as for their Persona games or any of their other RPGs.



.....Not to mention that the reception in the comment section was overwhelmingly positive.
Posted by Max_Hydrogen
@Zeik:

Actually I'm not new to the Internet; I was around when Al Gore invented it.
Posted by Brackynews

Here's a black garbage bag full of preorder bonuses!
Don't ask where it came from.
It'll be better for you.

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@Max_Hydrogen said:

@Catolf: Do you claim to speak for the masses? How do you know what everyone thinks?

Because most of the people interested in this game knew what to expect of it since last year.
Posted by Catolf
@Max_Hydrogen said:
@Zeik: Actually I'm not new to the Internet; I was around when Al Gore invented it.
then you would understand that though people WERE disappointed it lasted all of ten seconds. it was the gut reaction, after some time then feelings changed, everyone became open to something new and are better for it. The same old same old won't work forever, it's nice to have people change it up. I'm sorry your butt hurt about the issue, but the majority is not.
Posted by Xsheps

I'm interested in this game for just how weird everyone has been saying its going to be, but am sort of weirded out because I know this guy who had similar problems to the game's protagonist -- albeit with a Catharine and a Catherine.

Posted by dyong

I hear the resemblance to Teddy now. I thought it was Pharos at first.

Posted by Max_Hydrogen
@Catolf:

There you go again with the majority. Nixon must be playing this game because it sounds like a silent majority. People are always interested in something new: as long as it doesn't suck.

I guess your butt doesn't hurt because you're used to talking it up the ass...
Posted by Catolf
@Max_Hydrogen said:
@Catolf:

There you go again with the majority. Nixon must be playing this game because it sounds like a silent majority. People are always interested in something new: as long as it doesn't suck.

I guess your butt doesn't hurt because you're used to talking it up the ass...
I like how your resulting to insults because your feeling cornered. it's okay, I forgive you.

Catherine dosen't suck, duh, people imported the game, gave reviews EARLY to say it was good. Again, I'm sorry your hurt.. here.. BUTT hurt about it all still, but it's okay, the MAJORITY is forgiving. <3
Posted by Philosoma

This guest guy from Atlus is so damn cool - I hope he is on the Giantbombcast as a guest when Catherine comes out! Actually, I hope he joins the group at Giantbomb for a Catherine Endurance Run or perhaps a future Persona 5 Run!

Posted by TheHT

My... blood... pressure.

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Posted by TobyD81

Still totally into this game.

Posted by andygazi

This quick look sold it for me!  Def getting this one!

Posted by Wonloong

Awesome art direction and  a fucked up Japanese take of Tetris?


Sold.
Posted by Max_Hydrogen
@Catolf:

Am I the one resulting  to insults? Allow me to quote from your reply: "I'm sorry your [sic] butt hurt about the issue" Hmmm, seems to me like you're the one who opened the door, or should I say the back-door. Go ahead, deny it. If you can't suck it up, don't dish it out; it's a simple rule. (By the way: the expression is "to get butt hurt." Ergo it would be "you're", not "your"; pathetic!)

I love people like you: "I forgive you..." Oooo, the Jesus Attack! Nothing work's better than that; oh, you're so good could to forgive me, my, what a benevolent soul thou art  Sir... Ha ha ha! People like you are a joke and I'm sure you're impressing the millions of people reading your comments. I guess you also fabricated a "MAJORITY" to go along with your facile insults. Lot's of games are imported and get great reviews butt [sic] I think we know that certain reviews can be less than honest. Some people imported Rapeplay... must be a "MAJORITY" game...

Butt Hurt: A display of bruised feelings; usually over something lame. From urbandictionary.com

Wait a minute... Are you admitting that Catherine is LAME...?

Geez, you should really pick your lame-ass expressions better in future or else someone might throw it back in your face. The "MAJORITY" of gamers think Catherine sucks. (Forgive us...)
Posted by mutha3
@Catolf: @Max_Hydrogen:

Ignoring for a second that Max_Hydrogen is objectively wrong about the GB community having a overall negative reaction to Catherine, which can be easily proven by taking a screenshot of this very page we are on and that Catolf needs to learn not to dismiss negative opinions with an appeal to majority--

Shut the fuck up. Both of you.  Reading your comments is embarrassing.
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  @mutha3 said:

@Catolf: @Max_Hydrogen: Ignoring for a second that Max_Hydrogen is objectively wrong about the GB community having a overall negative reaction to Catherine, which can be easily proven by taking a screenshot of this very page we are on and that Catolf needs to learn not to dismiss negative opinions with an appeal to majority--Shut the fuck up. Both of you.  Reading your comments is embarrassing.

I'm not dismissing the negative... so XP I fully understood some people weren't happy and called it shit and what not without giving it a fair shot, next time i'll treat them with kid gloves... maybe KIDDIER gloves considering the way this conversation went. But me shutting up...yeahhh..not happening. XP
Posted by Max_Hydrogen2
@Catolf:

I find it ridiculous that someone who ivoked "butt hurt" would somehow wish to portray someone else as childish.

But I must agree with you: Mutha3 shouldn't tell people to "shut the fuck up" unless he's prepared to assume the consequences of his actions (you know, that thing the grown-ups do...).
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@Max_Hydrogen2 said:
@Catolf: I find it ridiculous that someone who ivoked "butt hurt" would somehow wish to portray someone else as childish. But I must agree with you: Mutha3 shouldn't tell people to "shut the fuck up" unless he's prepared to assume the consequences of his actions (you know, that thing the grown-ups do...).
While Butt hurt isn't the most 'adult' way to do so it's better than running off into a frenzy of expletives. But yeah the "shut the fuck up" was out of left field.
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@Max_Hydrogen: Don't be silly we all know JFK made it before he got assassinated by aliens who work for the US govt who in turn give them secret tech to test out deadly weapons on their home planet.
Posted by Marokai

And now this is probably the last we'll see of Catherine on Giant Bomb in any sort of video.

Posted by Troispoint

The gameplay is still off-putting to me :/

Posted by JCannihilates

Good thing I didn't want to hear anything that was going on in that game the whole time you were playing it, or finish that last cutscene or anything...

Posted by billyhoush

interesting story but I'm really not interested in the gameplay. Looks annoying and tedious.

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Posted by Mr_Spinnington
@swoxx said:
Fucking yes!

haha god, you can only open that door in the first trimester. Gheez Jeff
lol complete and unmatched wit ruled the end of that sequence
Posted by Giantstalker

You can only open that door in the first trimester

This is why I'm a patron of giantbomb.com
Posted by billyblaze

"You only open that door in the first trimester". Brilliant.

Posted by StriderNo9

I read a great article on this in Games TM, got me a lot more interested in the game itself.

Posted by Lind_L_Taylor

Had to mute to prevent the spoiler ruining my game experience.

Posted by Max_Hydrogen
@Agent47
 
Ok, now that I'm not banned anymore, I can reply to your stupid comment...
 
Let me guess... You were waiting for the first opportunity to publish that comment which you painfully mistake for wit even though it has precisely nothing to do with the actual subject at hand... Bravo. You certainly accomplished something. You know what might have been better? If you actually replied to anything I actually commented on...
 
That may have made your inept comment less pointless,
 
 
 
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Posted by Lind_L_Taylor

With the Japanese saying this is too hard, I don't think I want
to play this & end up throwing my controller into the wall.  Sounds
seriously frustrating.

Posted by dirkfunk

I'm looking forward to playing a game in which the main gameplay mechanic isn't shooting or stabbing dudes. . . 

Posted by Kratch

@dirkfunk said:

I'm looking forward to playing a game in which the main gameplay mechanic isn't shooting or stabbing dudes. . .

Even though I love shooting and stabbing dudes in games, I totally agree with you.

Posted by maragidyne

...I think the funniest part was him saying the mysterious voice sounded like Teddie, when it's actually Yosuke.  
 
But oh gosh, I wish I could play this game. Amazing voice cast, freaky plot... ahhh.