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Posted by mrpandaman

@WrenchNinja said:

@gladspooky said:

So Sony gets points for re-releasing fucking Flower, but Nintendo gets no points for redoing all the graphics in Ocarina of Time and releasing it on the 3DS? Bullshit. Fucking bullshit.

Wow, you really didn't think this through.

@HydraHam said:

@xyzygy said:

When Patrick started talking about how Nintendo isn't true to their old self I stopped watching. What a complete dolt. Would you rather them release the same game over and over again? I personally still hold nintendo in the highest regard because their games are always fucking awesome, minus the boring NSMB that they cash in on.

Also, the games that Sony is releasing are, mostly, games that Sony did not develop in house. They were just publishers for a percentage of them.

Patrick had a completely valid point. If you would of listened instead of making assumptions you would of seen what he was complaining about but instead you shut it off like an angry fanboy.

Lol... like WretchedNinja said, some people didn't think this through.

Posted by gocrazy101

Was VERY excited about this until I saw that it isn't coming to Europe :(

Posted by Rekt_Hed

Ohhh god dammit I want this....

Posted by WrenchNinja

@DeF said:

@George_Hukas said:

@gladspooky said:

So Sony gets points for re-releasing fucking Flower, but Nintendo gets no points for redoing all the graphics in Ocarina of Time and releasing it on the 3DS? Bullshit. Fucking bullshit.

Loved the Ocarina of Time commentary, bonus features, soundtrack, behind the scenes..

OH WAIT.. they did none of those things.

erm ... they gave you a friggin' soundtrack CD for free if you registered the game. doesn't negate the lack of other things but it's also definitely not nothing!

That was a limited time promotion. I didn't get jack shit for registering OoT3D.

Posted by Still_I_Cry

Well, that was a bit boring :(

Posted by BlazeHedgehog

Patrick is absolutely right about the way Nintendo treats their history. I can think of no better examples of that than both the Zelda Collectors Edition and the Metroid Prime Trilogy. Both were extremely cool collections to put out, but Zelda was basically impossible to get because it was only a pre-order bonus for Wind Waker. Metroid Prime Trilogy, on the other hand, was thankfully sold at retail - for about 8 months, when Nintendo announced it would be discontinued. New copies of either collection can sometimes go for $100 these days.
 
And they are always so bare bones. Rarely is there anything cool in the way of extras included with them; in the case of the Mario 25th Anniversary Collection, it was literally just a 3mb SNES ROM of Mario All-Stars and the Virtual Console emulator pressed on to a 4gb DVD - and they had the guts to sell it with a separate soundtrack CD, even though they could've fit all of that music and much much more on the same disc as the games. 
 
I really like the idea of these collections coming with DVD-style bonus features and while more and more developers are doing that, Nintendo would rather just funnel all of that stuff in to eShop downloads so they can charge you separately for each individual version of a game. I mean, no surprise, but Nintendo is kind of out of touch with the more luxury elements of gaming.

Posted by Milkman

@gladspooky said:

So Sony gets points for re-releasing fucking Flower, but Nintendo gets no points for redoing all the graphics in Ocarina of Time and releasing it on the 3DS? Bullshit. Fucking bullshit.

I probably shouldn't dignify you with a response but you must have missed the part where the Ocarina of Time remake got five fucking stars.

Posted by KlUMZeE

Looks like a nice collection for anyone who hasn't played these games... like me.

Posted by bruno0091

@HydraHam said:

@xyzygy said:

When Patrick started talking about how Nintendo isn't true to their old self I stopped watching. What a complete dolt. Would you rather them release the same game over and over again? I personally still hold nintendo in the highest regard because their games are always fucking awesome, minus the boring NSMB that they cash in on.

Also, the games that Sony is releasing are, mostly, games that Sony did not develop in house. They were just publishers for a percentage of them.

Patrick had a completely valid point. If you would of listened instead of making assumptions you would of seen what he was complaining about but instead you shut it off like an angry fanboy.

^ What he said. Try exercising some patience.

Edited by Dan_CiTi

Grave Diggers GOTY all years. Clean it up a bit and release it for $5. Same with Duke War!!

And about Nintendo re-releases, they usually suck, besides the Pokemon remakes which are great (though I hope they stop at G/S remakes). And other random stuff like Fire Emblem.

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Posted by thatguywiththedeepvoice

You know, this collection kind of pisses me off, but not because of the usual reasons. I already bought Journey and Flower on PSN (don't own flOw) and the extra loads of content look fucking great, but it's not worth it considering I already sunk $25 into the downloadable titles. Dammit... That being said, buying flOW and getting the soundtracks to Journey and Flower are almost worth it. And I love behind the scenes shit for games... I don't know. Damn my lack of foresight on a collection like this.

Posted by WiqidBritt

8 minutes before they start with any actual gameplay, that's gotta be a quicklook record right?

Posted by mavs

Nostril Shot looks like some Paul Robertson shit. I haven't played Journey so I have to buy this for sure.

Edited by Brackynews

@evanbower said:

@patrickklepek said:

I was talking about their treatment of their rich history, duder. Take a nap, come back, chill out.

Yeah, no one is questioning the quality of their current stuff.. but to celebrate the 25th anniversary of Super Mario Bros. they simply re-released Super Mario All-Stars on a Wii disc. No additional content.. no celebration of the series at all. I don't think it is out of line to say they could be doing more.

The Mario anniversary was quite disappointing, yeah. Almost like they didn't need to tell us why Mario is cool. So to say they don't put much effort into "special editions" is accurate. But that doesn't mean they won't. The Kirby anniversary collection looks downright amazing by comparison to Mario's. Emulation galore, new challenge missions, a hall of fame history that also contextualises things like the European union, the DVD format, and Janet Reno... ;)

Overall, Nintendo is better at fan service: Smash Bros., Tetris DS, Warioware, Punch-Out, Metroid Pinball, Mario & Luigi RPGs... dare I say even the Game & Watch collections. But why couldn't they have some throwback Punch-Out stuff, or include a code for the "original" on VC? That is so simple, and such an easy win. Metroid Prime could be linked to Fusion, but the 8-bit original Metroid was an unlockable before Virtual Console even existed. Why hide that away? Selling SKUs seems more important than just celebrating these awesome properties that most people have already bought twice.

Now that Nintendo Power is well and truly gone, I hope they will offer more on the website, and more in the retail collections, to satisfy the diehards. Maybe you can't charge a fair price for 20 Mario games on one disc. Maybe nobody wants to relive the CD-i Zeldas even if they had the rights. But almost every developer still works there. Iwata loves to pull back the curtain. Even if you can't collect 25 years of TV commercials, sit Shiggy down for some interviews, let's watch him play 1-1. Iwata Plays... Kirby. Grrr.

EDIT: Just had this Hyrule Historia pop up in my Amazon feed. So... we're getting there. :) I wonder if it's already out in Japan?

Posted by MormonWarrior

I bought this and it arrived but I have yet to play it. Does anybody know if the little DLC pack for flOw was included?

Edited by Stink_Meaner

The Real Gravediggaz... Excellent ql

PS yes that is the Rza on the right

Posted by GrantHeaslip

I think there's a big difference between putting out little jokey game jam games and putting out prototypes of cherished games. I think they could be interesting to see, but they could also lay bare the innards of games people have very fond memories of in unsettling ways. If you're a company like Nintendo or Thatgamecompany that sells magic (okay, a little cheesy, but you know what I mean), pulling back the curtain may not be the best move.

Patrick talks about them like they're an automatic win, but I'm not so sure they are, and I'm not sure there's a huge demand for them outside of the tiny fraction of the gaming community that cares about game jams and such.

Edited by SuperJoe

Patrick's catchphrase "What does that even mean?" should be followed with a laugh track and a goofy face. Same goes for Alex's "That's a thing.".

Posted by sunnipavlovic

Hey, Studio Manager from thatgamecompany here. That was a pretty great video for the Journey Collector's Edition, I really want to thank you guys for posting it. I had to sign up for an account here just so I can tell you how much we enjoyed watching!

I had the video playing here in the office when a small crowd started gathering nearby to watch. John E., Jacky, Jenova and I shared some good laughs watching you guys make your way through Gravediggers and Duke War!! Thanks so much for helping put smiles on all our faces here. It was definitely worth a few minutes of downtime to enjoy your commentary and playthroughs. :)

Posted by eccentrix

@gladspooky said:

So Sony gets points for re-releasing fucking Flower, but Nintendo gets no points for redoing all the graphics in Ocarina of Time and releasing it on the 3DS? Bullshit. Fucking bullshit.

What bonus content did they include with Ocarina 3D?

Posted by ZmillA

@SuperJoe said:

Patrick's catchphrase "What does that even mean?" should be followed with a laugh track and a goofy face. Same goes for Alex's "That's a thing.".

I love this post.

Posted by jorbear

@SuperJoe: I would do anything for a Giant Bomb Sitcom.

Posted by moomoomashoo

Does anyone know what it meant by "Clean Ending" on the Journey section of the disc?

Posted by csl316

What, the Man disrespected Dan Ryckert??

This cannot stand.

Edited by Ghost_of_Perdition

As someone who hasn't bought Journey yet (backlog), I'm picking this up. I really like that the soundtrack is included on the disc.

Soonish.

Posted by Camsampbell

I wish this was multi-platform, it looks like a whole mess of amazing.

Posted by BBQBram

Anyone know if this is getting a PAL release?

Posted by SpunkyHePanda

Just realized thatgamecompany killed the pattern by not calling Journey "Flowest".

Posted by Sonny009

@eccentrix: also, you failed to list the other 2 games shown here, as well as the god of war collection, the jak and dater collection, the ico collection, and the ratchet collection. those to nintendos 1 port to the 3ds which ONLY adds grphical enhancements?

Posted by SAC

@SuperJoe: LOL

Posted by Phished0ne

I like dynamic themes.

Posted by dropabombonit

Seems cool, still no word on a EU release. Although I already own all the games and the soundtracks, only thing of interest would to me would be the developer commentary and behind the scenes stuff

Posted by mnzy

@sunnipavlovic said:

Hey, Studio Manager from thatgamecompany here. That was a pretty great video for the Journey Collector's Edition, I really want to thank you guys for posting it. I had to sign up for an account here just so I can tell you how much we enjoyed watching!

I had the video playing here in the office when a small crowd started gathering nearby to watch. John E., Jacky, Jenova and I shared some good laughs watching you guys make your way through Gravediggers and Duke War!! Thanks so much for helping put smiles on all our faces here. It was definitely worth a few minutes of downtime to enjoy your commentary and playthroughs. :)

That's amazing.

Posted by Elwoodan

Vat killed the dinosaurs? the Klep-ice AGE....

I tried...

Posted by sixpin

A good collection, too bad I already own all of the PSN games in this set. I'd like to try out those game jam games though. Probably not the biggest value proposition for one such as myself, but maybe I can catch it on sale later on.

Posted by Yummylee

Too bad this isn't coming out in Europe, because of course it isn't /smh

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Posted by Heartagram

So I haven't bought any of these games yet... Should I get this or just buy Journey? I played through flower a long time ago but I wouldn't mind checking it out again.

Posted by MeatSim

Nostril Shot is my new favorite thatgamecompany game.

Edited by Silver-Streak

@eccentrix: They're giving kudos for releasing the source materials with respect. Sony has always been up front that most of the colllection or "HD" versions are just upconversions rendering at higher resolution, not full remakes. The whole packages are less than a new game, and usually include a ton of extra content. Edit: not to mention multiple games.

OOT3D isn't quite the same thing, but was also the highest pricing tier for a 3DS game, included no extra content, and was touted as a remake when most of the changes were the same things that Sony does for their HD re-releases. Remakes are actually remaking the game, for example, the Kings Quest 1/2/Quest For Glory 2 remakes that "Anonymous Game Developers" have done. Edit: another good example, Resident Evil for the Gamecube

That being said, OOT3D is still great, but they're not really the same thing, so please calm your undeserved rage.

Posted by rockhopper78

I was always interested in checking out Journey. Maybe with this collection, it's the right time.

Posted by Daroki

@moomoomashoo said:

Does anyone know what it meant by "Clean Ending" on the Journey section of the disc?

It probably means you get the visuals and the music, but not the credit roll.

Posted by DigTheDoug

@moomoomashoo said:

Does anyone know what it meant by "Clean Ending" on the Journey section of the disc?

It's the ending without all the ass-to-mouth.

Edited by vinsanityv22

I'm glad they're doing this. My PS3, personally - for whatever reason - stopped connecting to the internet in March of this year. Suddenly, I wish a ton more PSN games were collected and gathered up and put on a physical disc. Especially since this last summer was so shit for game releases. I was a fan of when Capcom released their Xbox Live Arcade Collection - I'm shocked more publishers don't do that during the slow summer months.

Sega, for example, could've collected both Sonic 4 Episodes and released it on disc. A publisher like THQ could've gotten a deal in place to release games like Super Meat Boy and Dust Force on disc, as some sort of "Brutal Indie Platformer Collection". Honestly, all the publishers who are hurting financially should be doing this - it seems like a really cheap way to make some money and get these games to gamers who aren't internet supported. Or for something like Bionic Command ReArmed 2, where the DRM on it is bullshit and you can't play it if you're not connected to the internet.

Posted by Oombalan

Still yet to play any of these, happy they are releasing them as a set

Edited by MachoFantastico

Journey was one of my favourite games of the past few years, wonderful experience. Enjoyed Flower a great deal to. Seems like an interesting collection if I hadn't already bought the games. The developer commentaries might actually tempt me though, would be fascinated to hear more about the game.

Edited by Kosayn

I'm more and more suspicious that Duke War is, in fact, a Progress Quest clone. The King doesn't seem to do anything. The money pickups don't seem logical. Who knows if the number of followers even matters. I suspect it to be some kind of un-game human behavior experiment!

Posted by MEATBALL

My favourite thing about Patrick joining Giant Bomb, beyond what he and Alex have done for the news section, is that Brad has someone who isn't afraid to get a bit "wanky" and care about stuff like this. This was a fun Quick Look.

Posted by Krathoon

Whelp. Totally getting it. Plenty of extras.

Posted by Lava

I would buy this for just all the extra content. Plus I never played Flower and those game jam games look pretty sweet too!

Posted by Quarters

Still not into any of those games, but kudos on a cool release. I can see why fans of these games would really dig this.

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