Super Monday Night Combat for Beginners

@Riboflavin: Damn my inability to sense humour on the internet :<

Either way moba's a great word, just say it, Moe~bah, it's a delightfully stupid word how can anyone disapprove?

This really makes the game look a lot harder than it is. Maybe it's because I played classic MNC, but I had no trouble getting into SMNC,

@Freshbandito: it was a joke. The idle thumbs guys started calling it Lords Management and its a way better name.

@Riboflavin said:

I would prefer that, instead of using the silly term "MOBA", people used the proper term for the genre: "Lords Management"

I'd say that the generally accepted term used by the guys who develop these games and created the genre like the higher ups in Riot games is the 'proper' term for the genre and they've been calling them mobas

@vinsanityv22 said:

They, and anyone else making a competitive shooter, should do more stuff like this. But how about an interactive tutorial? This kind of thing, informationally, but done in a sort of Mission Mode to teach new players these techniques firsthand? A sort of "Noob 101" mode, to get people acclimated to the game properly? Videos are fine, but playing is how you learn guys...

The first MNC had that.

Spunky machines? Errrr

Yes I will eat some bacon.

@Icaria said:

Looks interesting but too mechanically dense. How much of this stuff do I actually need to memorise to play the game effectively?

not much! i played the not free-2-play one not to long ago and you can pick it up and play pretty easily. if you know how the moba genre works then you'll be good to go. the items/buy-/spawn points are good designed and easy to undestand so you'll have no problem with that. i don't know about the new maps though. it took me some time to get the hang of the old ones.

Looks interesting but too mechanically dense. How much of this stuff do I actually need to memorise to play the game effectively?

Loved the first game.

I'm sure mechanically this game will be fine but the shift in art style is a total bummer. It looks bland and the robots and Pros don't seem to match the environment. I hope SMNC doesn't lose the awesome announcer too.

This video makes this game seem very complicated and hard to get in to which I think does it a disservice. In the original it's not that bad to figure this stuff out as you go.

So many free to play games, and so little time.

I've played this game for over 200 hours and never upgraded my skills, fuck dude. I am so much better now. FUCK.

looks uhh.. lame

I needed this video when I was playing the game... now I'm not playing it.

They, and anyone else making a competitive shooter, should do more stuff like this. But how about an interactive tutorial? This kind of thing, informationally, but done in a sort of Mission Mode to teach new players these techniques firsthand? A sort of "Noob 101" mode, to get people acclimated to the game properly? Videos are fine, but playing is how you learn guys...

But I already know how to play! 100 hours and counting!

What if I want to juice use? Could I do that?

Thanks for the video, it's pretty helpful. Recently started playing League of Legends and having fun with that, so definitely interested to try out some other different MOBAs. Smite looks pretty cool.

I would prefer that, instead of using the silly term "MOBA", people used the proper term for the genre: "Lords Management"

Man I love me some MNC. I could mot stop playing it on the 360.

the guy with the wings that shows up for one second in thetrailer is a new pro that got added in the last week or so. He's a clone of Leonardo da vinci.

At the moment the game is still in beta. they have implemented matchmaking but it is still being improved. since it is a beta and they havent sent out invites in a while there is a somewhat low player count. the game at the moment isnt very new player friendly due to no tutorial (this is a step in the right direction). I would say for people who are interested in trying the game should wait till release or if you got a beta key then give it a try and if you dont find what it is like currently then come back once the game has released and the player base and matchmaking have fleshed out more.

the game is pretty fun once you get the hang of it and has alot of potential. Really looking forward to release.

That was one serious info-dump.

GO TEAM UBER.

#jokes

@chubie said:

@Taklulas: You can buy every character without paying a thing, and there are 7 free pros available at any give time.

Yeah I know, and I dislike that. But I guess not every game can be like Dota 2/TF2 and give you every thing for free(beside cosmetics)

If anyone is looking to get in on SMNC, I have 4 (I think) gift copies on my Steam account and none of my friends want them. Feel free to inbox me your Steam info and I will toss you a copy.

Also if you need some help and someone to show you the ropes I am more than willing, the community is generally open to helping new people, you just need to ask. Also prepare to be crushed a lot in your first few games until you figure out how things work.

Tried this yesterday. Game itself seems fun, but the UI is a tragedy.

Everyone needs to stop throwing around the word MOBA and trying to identify vastly different games to be similar. Comparing this to DotA is like comparing DotA to Call of Duty just because they both require teamwork. Yes, both games have severe learning curves. Watch videos, play solo games, try to learn the game before trying to just jump in and you won't get flamed for being a retard. It's not that hard to figure out that dying is bad and you'll probably die if you jump off the ledge or try to chase someone into their base at level 3.

On an upnote, SMNC is a fun game which can be a great game with friends. I like what the producers are doing and I can't wait to see the final product.

@Allison: At least to be fair to Dota 2, Valve has planned to have several tutorials (there are spaces in the UI for tutorial games, play with a mentor, and a whole tab dedicated to learning outside of actual games) which aren't implemented yet.

I have no idea if there is anything similar in SMNC, but again the snowballing effect is directly related to being a MOBA game. The very design of games like this cause the snowballing. It becomes very difficult to come back form any kind of loss (be it money or XP) without playing very cautiously and executing a huge turn around. Watching pro level Dota and Dota 2 matches bears this out. 90% of the time the team that gets into a Gold/XP lead (they tend to go hand in hand in Dota), will win. Turning a gold/XP disadvantage around usually involves patient play and lots of defending and turtling in base. Not something that the usual shooter player is great at or lead to what most people consider "fun". So your point stands.

Have over 100 hours into this, love it alot!

I've been playing this with a friend and it can be very fun, but their is no way to match noobs to play against each other. This does make the game incredibly frustrating to play. Its not that its super complicated its just that the veterans are so much better then everyone else.

@Taklulas: You can buy every character without paying a thing, and there are 7 free pros available at any give time.

Been in the Beta since January. It is by far my favorite game of the year, despite its harshness to new players (which they are currently working on).

Give this awesome game a chance, just be aware that there is a scary high learning curve at the moment.

@Taklulas said:

Love how they didn't tell you that you have to buy pros. Good ol' marketing!

You can always use the pros that are available for free that particular week, as well as use in-game currency to unlock pros permanently. If you put enough time in, you don't have to spend a dime.

Love how they didn't tell you that you have to buy pros. Good ol' marketing!

There's a Luchadeer skin in the game for one of the competitors. What more needs to be said?

@returnofjake said:

Been playing this for a couple months. At first I got stomped but I kept at it and it got a lot better. Like other MOBAs there's a learning curve, but it's totally worth it in my opinion.

I still suck, but at least I have fun and don't hinder my team =D

@Rayeth: It has less to do with "friendliness" and more to do with "accessibility."

League of Legends is accessible because if you want more health you go to the store, click Armor and Health and then double click the armor that gives you more health. Dota 2 is inaccessible because if you want more health you (and I had to look this up despite playing several rounds of Dota 2) buy items that increase your Strength or Health with little wherewithall as to where those items are.

Likewise, Super Monday Night Combat is incredibly inaccessible. People keep saying that when it opens maybe the games won't snowball one direction; no, this will keep happening. As more experienced players spend more and more time playing, newer players will be easily discouraged from playing when they lose all the time. Really all Uber is doing is feeding more flesh to the pits.

@CaLe said:

Why won't they let me play it? They are letting other people play it but not me. I am despised, that's why.

I have an extra invite on Steam. If you're interested pm me your Steam ID.

I've already put dozens of hours into this game, and I highly recommend it. My only complaint is the lousy matchmaking; every match seems to snowball in one direction. Hopefully, this problem will dissipate given time.

Been playing this for a couple months. At first I got stomped but I kept at it and it got a lot better. Like other MOBAs there's a learning curve, but it's totally worth it in my opinion.

Just started playing this again a couple of days ago. It's a really good time!

And you can play as a gorilla in a pinstripe suit that carries a tommy gun around. Great!

Sounds like Gir at the end of the video.

I like the bonus for staying the entire match, but it will probably just mean more afk bots instead of reducing the rage quits.

Everything everyone is complaining about is STANDARD for MOBA games. Go play some HoN or (god forbid) Dota 2 and enjoy the same thing. Those games are very unfriendly to new players as well. Sadly, to increase friendliness means losing the more competitive aspects of those games (See League of Legends vs Dota 2) and changing the games entirely. Something that those communities won't stand for.

I am betting the same thing happened here from MNC to SMNC.

Played in the beta a few months ago and found it to be very different compared to MNC and not in a good way. It felt like there was much less to the experience. Less interaction with turrets, bots, endorsements and the team composition was locked, making each game feel like luck of the draw.

I'd have liked it if they just made MNC free to play and added vanity items etc for people to spend money on.

Game is awesome fun and looking fantastic, but I'd suggest staying away from the beta right now for new players. They *just* turned on matchmaking, and they've got a bit of a ways to go before you're going to actually get reliably placed into a fair, fun match. ;) This means that even though the game itself is really great, it's hard to get a really fun game running. Give it another month, should be a bit more evenly baked by then!

I've been in the beta for awhile, the game is great, but at the end of the day... not as good as TF2 in my eyes, so after playing it for like 50 hours, I just deleted it :/

@Ashcrack1087: I'll take one if you still have any! Super curious to try this out...

I found the beta of this infinitely more intimidating, confusing and unfriendly to new players than the first MNC. They went from a fairly accessible shooter with light tower defence elements to going full MOBA, unfortunately. It's probably a great game if you like MOBAs, or at least have the slightest clue what's going on. The weapons do pretty much no damage!

I was really disappointed.

I've been playing this game since December and I LOVE IT. Seriously, one of the best games I played from last year.