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X Rebirth Looks Like One Hell of a Space Game

Maybe this is EVE Online for non-crazy people?

Aug. 9 2013

Posted by: Patrick

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I have to agree with the rest of the peanut gallery here. I'm not sure what anyone could see here that makes this look more approachable than EVE. Frankly, other than the 1st Person cockpit view, and the title card at the end, this could have even been an EVE trailer.

Don't get me wrong, I dig EVE and I think this looks like it has a ton of potential too. I'm just missing the part of the trailer that makes this seem less crazy in any way.

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Lets hope that the copy protection dose not kill my PC this time around unlike X3... I can still hear that stupid disc grinding in the drive.

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Space Bonner!

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The appeal of EVE is definitely the huge space battles for me (As a goonwaffe jackbooted thug). So no, not really any of EVE. The economics stuff is pretty cool but it's not even remotely on par with EVE either.

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Man that game looks pretty impressive. Kept thinking how much more awesome the trailer would have been if George Takai was the narrator, though.

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I zoned out towards the end, but this still looks really cool. Like the look of some of those scenes, particularly that there's colour and not just grey and/or blue.

Music was great too.

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The appeal of EVE is definitely the huge space battles for me (As a goonwaffe jackbooted thug). So no, not really any of EVE. The economics stuff is pretty cool but it's not even remotely on par with EVE either.

GOON SPAI. B0RT 4 LYFE.

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@atwa: yeah i always got that idea as well...

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The X games are really fun, but after playing for a while I realized that it is definitely a game where you need a notepad to keep track of things, especially in the early game when you don't have automated trading up and running. Still, looking forward to this one.

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I was absolutely giddy watching this video, and then completely flatlined when I was told you won't be able to change ships. :/ That's part of what made X3: albion so good to me. I don't want to pilot drones, I want to shoot pilots out of their cockpits and then space walk into their ships and proceed to shoot the hell out of the rest of his friends.

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Anyone else getting a "Prey 2" feel from some of this?

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Never heard of X until now. That in mind, clumped together with my healthy skepticism of Deep Silver, I'll try to keep my expectations in check. But if it turns out to be what that trailer "hyped"...

Well, gosh! It'd be incredible!

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I've played like 5hrs of X3: TC so far and I still don't really know WTF I'm doing. I haven't even started managing separate fleets, trade routes, etc. yet either. Definitely a crazy people series, but definitely going to keep trying to figure this shit out.

I'm going to guess the new game will be a lot more 'accessible' though. Hopefully they're actually successful in keeping the game complex, while being a bit less complicated.

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Still waiting for the game that lets me do all these things and get up from the cockpit and walk around my ship mid-battle or anytime I want. What could be more fun than piloting a giant cruiser into a battle, locking the command console, then running to an escape pod and ditching your whole real-person crew while they get slaughtered? Nothing.

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Something I feel I can say is that it looks like the design team did a great job illustrating depth of view in this game. I have almost never truly gotten a sense that I was somewhere really high because games never portrayed that too well, but at 1:02 I got that feeling. I bet this game would be amazing with O.Rift.

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Also, ship/building destruction in space needs to be drastically modified. As fires don't burn in a vacuum. It would be cool to see your destruction leave a hole in the hull or wall and the shield covers the hole and you can see the fires inside the ship burning etc. Maybe see some people and objects sucked out into space before the shield seals the gap or whatever.

Yes, but if a ship is filled with oxygen and fuel that catches fire and explodes from within, isn't all of that going to burn off even if it becomes exposed to vacuum? It made be very quick, but it would still burn like a flash.

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I played so many hundreds of hours of the past x games. I'm hoping they have improved the rough edges of the last games

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This sounds like snake oil.

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Looks stunning, cant argue with that.

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Can't help but think I'd spend this entire game seeing other cool ships and wishing I could fly them as well. Best thing about Elite for me was slowly improving the ship you were flying. Does look amazing though (the scale video is well worth watching) but it's a bit of a downer for me to be stuck in the same ship for a game...

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I wouldn't say "non-crazy people." I would say it's very Eve-esque for non-sadistic people, however.

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Looks great, but it sounds like they hired a 20 year old guy off the street to do the narration for this trailer. It's not terrible, but it sounds a bit unprofessional.

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Something i can play til Star Citizen comes out.

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@korolev: Pretty sure it's a developer doing the narration, probably the same guy from the Scale and Detail trailer. Its a small developer, I'm guessing they preferred it that way.

@mattgrant said:

Never heard of X until now. That in mind, clumped together with my healthy skepticism of Deep Silver, I'll try to keep my expectations in check. But if it turns out to be what that trailer "hyped"...

Well, gosh! It'd be incredible!

Egosoft has a solid history of doing these sorts of games.

This sounds like snake oil.

What makes you say that? Sure past X games have needed a lot of mod support to reach its potential, but they are still pretty solid if not time-consuming to learn.

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@chiablo said:

If there is Oculus Rift support, I will park my space ship next to a space highway, and get space high watching space traffic in space 3D.

This

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This is looking pretty incredible. X3 was quite difficult to get into but was rewarding. The controls look much more approachable this time.

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@jarowdowsky said:

Can't help but think I'd spend this entire game seeing other cool ships and wishing I could fly them as well. Best thing about Elite for me was slowly improving the ship you were flying. Does look amazing though (the scale video is well worth watching) but it's a bit of a downer for me to be stuck in the same ship for a game...

Egosoft has said that you will constantly be upgrading your ship. The ship you fly in the end will be drastically different from the one you have in the beginning. Here is an interview about the game if anyone is interested. http://forum.egosoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=327997

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That looks fucking awesome. I hope idiots like me can play it without dedicating a lot of time.

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Looks pretty damn good! I would be willing to give this a looksee

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@gike987 said:

@veektarius said:

Not to burst your bubble, Patrick, but unless they change a lot, the X series is definitely for crazy people.

The design goal for this one have been all about making it playable for non-crazy people.

http://forum.egosoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=306346

"Complex=good, Complicated=bad

Let me get this straight right at the start. X Rebirth is not less complex or dumber than any of the X games of the past.

But to make a game intuitive and easy to learn, you have to design it from scratch. Adding features to a game that was not designed for these features at the start, is never perfect.

Designed to be fun and easy but complex and deep at the same time

This one line sums up the ethos of all the game design changes that you will read and hear about, namely:"

It's still definitely FOR crazy people, they're just trying to expand the audience.

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I thought this was that X game that got announced for the Wii U for about half the trailer.

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I will buy the shit out of this game. I have X3 Reunion but I don't know what the hell I'm doing in that one. I'll totally do the same thing for this game!

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Well, I'm all in.

*Puts on space trucker hat*

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If they're making this game a more accessible version of X I'm so in. Mad Freelancer vibes.

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They're in space. How does a column of burning fire at 00:54 exist in space?

Also, is the X series big on you controlling capital ships (ie dreadnaughts, carriers, cruisers) and NOT on little itty bitty fighters/interceptors (ie every single space sim game except EVE)?

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1:53 in, is that the Battlestar Galactica?!

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I truly hope they make controls better, more streamlined; all of the X-games I tried feels clunky and nearly EVE-Online in complexity. Now if this is more streamlined and easier to get into and understand then maybe...

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This looks bananas!! I was never able to get in to the earlier games but managed to git grips on EvE. This looks like it can be freaking awesome if its just has a bit smoother learning curve.

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I'm a huge sucker for being able to walk inside of your own space ship and possibly in weird space stations/cities to some extent. I also love a good space drinking establishment.

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They had me at sexy anthropomorphic skunk nose art.

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The one thing the X games completely missed out on that it sorely needs is a fucking TUTORIAL. In every single game it just dumps you out and literally doesn't tell you a single thing about how to equip your ship or get a quest or anything. For what, 5 games in a row now?

I bought all of them in search for that "tutorial". Surely one of these games actually held your hand a bit right? Nope. When I realized how long it would take me just to understand how to properly use my ship I was done. It's too bad because all of those games look awesome. I haven't found a proper replacement for Freespace 2 since, well, Freespace open source project.

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@white said:

They're in space. How does a column of burning fire at 00:54 exist in space?

Also, is the X series big on you controlling capital ships (ie dreadnaughts, carriers, cruisers) and NOT on little itty bitty fighters/interceptors (ie every single space sim game except EVE)?

I believe it used to be (at least in the more recent X games), but it appears you can only control one ship in X Rebirth. With that said, you can upgrade your ship.

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if anyone thinks x isn't as crazy and numbersy as eve they haven't touched x

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I love the idea of being able to walk around inside the ship and talk to people and then just go seamlessly to the cockpit, but... only one ship? What the fuck

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Nothing in this trailer indicates a less complicated EVE, and it will be nothing like that.

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Oculus Rift support on this.. I've always thought that space sims would benefit hugely from Track IR and stuff like that, but the implementation has always been just horrible, and often the space crafts themselves are clearly designed to look cool, not to offer any situational awareness in the cockpit. Glass dome-style fighter plane pits would feel amazing in space. So much..space..

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Good lord the art direction reminds me of Battlestar Galactica.

I might lose my entire life to this game.