Wii U Arrives in United States on November 18

@Ghostiet said:

@Riboflavin said:

Man I hope Bayonetta 2 is "exclusive" the same way RE4 was a game cube "exclusive" (along with most of the rest of the camcom 5). I really want to play it, give no fucks about other wii u titles, and am certainly not going to buy one.

Yeah, I hope so too. Exclusive sequels are stupid, especially since I doubt Bayonetta 2 will utilize the controller the way Rayman Legends does.

A Bayonetta 2 that you'll never play, or no Bayonetta 2 period. You make the choice on what's better. Those are the two only actual choices because no one else was going to publish it.

@thabigred said:

Price is important to me, and while I'm not buying the WiiU due to lack of games I think the price point they have is quite reasonable. Here is a graph comparing the consoles prices to inflation over the years, and you'll see Nintendo has occupied the lowest end for as long as they've been in business. That's a big deal, they set the floor. So as Ryan said, if you're complaining about this price, I got some bad news for you when the new Xbox and Playstation are released...

Maybe I'm reading this wrong, but the regular edition does NOT come with a Game Pad charging cable? Meaning if I want to charge my Game Pad (I know, crazy, why would I want to do that) I'd have to go out and buy an extra accessory?

How are people so excited for a system that will have no online component other than to stream movies and eshop games. It's freakin 2012 Nintendo. I jokingly commented to my wife about the new Wii coming out and she said that she wasn't even interested, and this was the women who bought a 3DS on a whim. When Nintendo decides to join the internet age I might consider buying the WiiU, but after owning a Wii and never playing it what's the purpose or spending another $400 or so?

My financial situation (and being in college with little to no spare time) says I'm not buying a Wii U, and considering how little use I had with my Wii I'm really not that bothered.

I do hope early buyers are happy with their purchase though, and it will be interesting for sure to see how things go for Nintendo with this thing. The pessimistic side of me says "good luck...", but my optimistic side says "good luck!".

@belowradar said:

How are people so excited for a system that will have no online component other than to stream movies and eshop games. It's freakin 2012 Nintendo. I jokingly commented to my wife about the new Wii coming out and she said that she wasn't even interested, and this was the women who bought a 3DS on a whim. When Nintendo decides to join the internet age I might consider buying the WiiU, but after owning a Wii and never playing it what's the purpose or spending another $400 or so?

What the hell are you talking about, "no online component"?

i'll wait for the PS4 and 720 before making a decision

@evanbower said:

Platinum is definitely one of my favourite developers at the moment, so the idea of them teaming up with Nintendo is really some sort of dream scenario for me.

So you want to see them shackled by technology that seems old and outdated before it is even released?

@MattyFTM: It comes with a cord, but not a fancy cradle to set it in.

Bayoneta 2? HD versions of Nintendo flagship titles? Reasonable price. What's not to like? Nintendo have done it again.

@belowradar: did you miss the announcement of the Miiverse at E3 this year?

meh, I'll wait to see what Microsoft and Sony have to offer first.

Pretty reasonable price, Nintendo seldom loses money on hardware. The limitation will be redressed in revamp designs, as in Wii U+ or something similar, obviously with larger capacity. But 32GB is fine if just for saves and in flash, no moving parts. My only worry is the breadth of software support, but the exclusives look good, need to release them within months of launch and not miss this year's holiday season.

@Imsorrymsjackson said:

@sirdesmond: I really hope this is Nintendo's last console, it's time for them to do a Sega.

what, fade into almost complete obscurity? is that what you really want?

The price point is perfect. Folks using that as a talking point to try to bring down the hype of the system are really, really reaching. It blows my mind that people go so far out of their way to take a dump on a product for the most juvenile of reasons.

I am very interested in the media streaming capabilities of the system. The TVii looks pretty cutting edge compared to the troublesome interface and experiences found on the PS3 and Xbox 360. I am still probably not going to buy one day one, but it is now on my radar.

Man, I was really thinking a $250 price point would have been the sweet spot. I mean, $299 isn't too far off, but now it's not *as* competitive a deal compared to current gen consoles - especially for the large crowd who realizes we'll probably be seeing some bigger and 'better' entries from Microsoft and Sony next year. Nintendo used to be the main stream guys, this system seems a little too niche. The circumstances that are required for there to be a solid market for this are somewhat specific. I wish them well though, I'd fucking hate to see another one of my childhood favorites bite it.

@ripelivejam: Maybe Sega was a bit harsh. I just want them to stop making consoles and keep making games.

also how many of the people complaining about the price were ever going to buy one anyway? just sounds like they're trying to reinforce the "downfall" of nintendo.

The most I came away from this with is Nintendo TVii. I mean really? LOL wow someones getting paid to be really creative over at Nintendo.

I'm having a really hard time justifying a purchase. Nintendo needs to shuffle out a substantial amount of exclusives and quickly. Offering the same games that everybody else played 6 months ago with a sub-par control system and a likely inferior online setup will not validate your console's worth.

@MattyFTM said:

Wait, the standard version doesn't come with a charging cable for the gamepad? How are you supposed to charge it then?

You don't. You need to buy a new one when the battery dies.

It's a pretty brilliant marketing move.

I guess this system will do fairly well, but not come close to the popularity/sales of the Wii.

I'd normally say Buying a Nintendo system for Nintendo games, but I feel that Trine 2 and Rayman Origin Legends are excellent launch titles, even if I owe them on steam kinda am more interested in the whole nintendo eccentricities of the system. Like the whole using items to scan into Rayman, or if Trine 2 is Download only on Nintendo's new online service.

But honestly I'd want to wait. The HDD is a serious issue to me, and 32 gigs is pretty ridiciulious small. I'd say 130 gigs would be just right for a modern console, I'd recommend for friends to just go out and buy a PS3 or a 360 insead.

I would certainly buy one at those prices, but seeing as I'm Australian, I'll have to pay $349 or $429, and that's pushing it.

$350 isn't a bad price at all. However, paying $350 to play games I can already play on my PS3 and Xbox 360 and some Nintendo first party exclusives isn't attractive to me. They still haven't come close to justifying this consoles existence to me besides the mildly interesting controller.

@crithon: Reggie said you can use any kind of storage solution you want as it will work with everything. I agree that what they give you up front is stupidly small, but at least they're doing the right thing in allowing you to plug in a giant stand alone drive if you really need that much space. I hope Microsoft learns this lesson.

nope.

Just make the "launch window" a whole fucking year.

@ripelivejam: Maybe Sega was a bit harsh. I just want them to stop making consoles and keep making games.

@Link43130 said:

How much will another one of those controllers cost, I wonder.

775,000,000! Haha! Ummm... so where did I put that noose?

Heh-heh, three weeks ago on Orange Lounge Radio (podcast), one of the hosts said it would be November 18th.

I'll have to see what Dragon Quest X looks like before I'm ready to plop down $300.

Although I'm stoked, I will be waiting for a larger Hard Drive. Remember when the 360 launched with 20 GB? Yeah. Or the PS3 40 GB version, when a lot of games have mandatory installs? Yeah.

The price seems alright, but i don't see the point of the machine when I have a 360 and a PS3 standing right behind me.

Darn, I will probably buy one .... eventually.... but not at 350.

Although I'm stoked, I will be waiting for a larger Hard Drive. Remember when the 360 launched with 20 GB? Yeah. Or the PS3 40 GB version, when a lot of games have mandatory installs? Yeah.

Wow Baynetta 2!!!! Oh wait I forgot to finish the first one so, no.

@belowradar said:

How are people so excited for a system that will have no online component other than to stream movies and eshop games. It's freakin 2012 Nintendo. I jokingly commented to my wife about the new Wii coming out and she said that she wasn't even interested, and this was the women who bought a 3DS on a whim. When Nintendo decides to join the internet age I might consider buying the WiiU, but after owning a Wii and never playing it what's the purpose or spending another $400 or so?

How are people so quick to make comments with no knowledge of facts?

@Stubee said:

@evanbower said:

Platinum is definitely one of my favourite developers at the moment, so the idea of them teaming up with Nintendo is really some sort of dream scenario for me.

So you want to see them shackled by technology that seems old and outdated before it is even released?

So you want to see them shackled by a publisher that doesn't want Bayonetta 2 to exist?

The price point is perfect. Folks using that as a talking point to try to bring down the hype of the system are really, really reaching. It blows my mind that people go so far out of their way to take a dump on a product for the most juvenile of reasons.

@MormonWarrior said:

For a brand-new console, $350 sounds reasonable. I mean, the premium PS3 and Xbox 360 are still $300 so this makes sense.

I agree, I don't think this is overpriced at all. The deluxe version actually seems like a pretty solid deal.

WOW 32 GB of storage the didn't spare any expense.

The Futureshop website has down that the Wii U is using a Power7 cpu.

The specs for that chip are fairly impressive, 4 cores with each capable of running 4 threads at 3Ghz each, and that is the entry model, probably what the Wii U will use but who knows.

While it's not much use comparing this directly to PC specs as consoles are optimized for gaming, these specs are better/on par with current PC hardware which is not normally the case when consoles are announced, they usually have stuff that is far behind current PC hardware and make up for it by being highly optimized.

For comparison, the Wii had a 729mz CPU with 88mb RAM, while Gaming PCs at that time had 2ghz dual core processors and most gamers were running around 2gb of ram, Wii specs were far less than half of it's contemporary PCs, I think the Wii U will be a much greater leap than most are expecting.

Have they said anything about the GPU yet?

This question may have been answered already but ill go ahead anyway. After the exchange rate the wii u screen controller will be £107 so probably about $130 ove there in US. So if you break yours or a child breaks it which is the likley scenario its an expensive replacement. Otherwise though Ill doubt you ll need a spair since the games olnly utilise one wii pad.

@Kidavenger: The Power architecture frequently clocks in higher than Intel in general. For example Power 7 server chips clock in as high as 4.25 GHz (not overclocked). However, the clock speed is not 1 for 1 and the performance of a program on Power may or may not be better the performance on an Intel PC and is program dependent.

It's sad when the most interesting looking games for the system aren't Nintendo made.

I'm interested in the system for the Wonderful 101 and Lego City Undercover, but no new Mario (I don't want yet another Mario, Zelda, or interesting Metroid titles really brings down my initial interest and if they are going to get me at all they have to do it before new Playstation or Xbox hardware comes out.

I think they should drop the "New" Super Mario Bros line for a couple years, and bring in a "New" Metroid 2d line of games. A Mario U-niverse game, and a "New" Metroid game would turn this system into a must buy for me.

@Fearbeard said:

I think they should drop the "New" Super Mario Bros line for a couple years, and bring in a "New" Metroid 2d line of games. A Mario U-niverse game, and a "New" Metroid game would turn this system into a must buy for me.

Iwata has said they're only releasing one New Super Bros. title per console, so you don't have to worry about that.

I'll probably wind up getting the Wii U (if only for the first hand ability to complain about it), but never having owned a Wii it's going to open up a big window for me to play all the Wii games I never got a chance too.

And not a single fuck was given on this day.

I feel like the Wii U will remain relevant until the Orbis or whatever-the-hell-the-next-Xbox-is-called turns up. Then it's going to seem last-gen, almost like automatic antiquity.