@allworkandlowpay said:

@N7 said:

If it's anything like Bad Company 2, it will have three things: Snipers everywhere, a constant stream of spawn-camping and everyone will camp the vehicles, whilst the enemy team whoop our ass because I'm the only one who's actually trying to make an effort.

It was like I was my own worst enemy during my time with Bad Company 2. I was always put on the jerkass team and never the good teams.

Sometimes I just think that Battlefield isn't meant for me.

Sounds like every battlefield game I've ever played (all of them.)

I remember people putting anti-tank mines down on our own aircraft carriers in BF1942 just to make sure nobody but they would be allowed to fly. Usually half the team was there killing eachother on the carrier over the planes, while the rest of the team sniped from a distance at positions already taken long ago. Occasionally a medic or engineer would actually be on the frontlines fighting, but those were rare times indeed.

Well that's not good at all.

I really want to get Battlefield 3 because so far, the single-player looks amazing, but after what I went through with BF2, I don't think I really want to. I tried to play the game, but I was always put on really bad teams against the most MLG players I've ever seen. Call me crazy, but I'm not really into a game where you pretty much are forced to play with a huge group of people. That's why I stick with COD. No matter what happens, I don't NEED to have a group of friends to play with me in fear of douchebag teammates or huge amounts of campers.

I really want to get BF3 because it's something new, but I'll just have to see how it turns out first, because after hearing all about the jank from the other games, and seeing it first hand in BC2, I don't want to waste my very limited money on something I'll end up not liking.

People are misguided and will be disappointed.

@VictoryBlixt said:

@Mahonay said:

Definitely being over-hyped but at the same time there is a likely a large segment of Call of Duty console players that have never played a Battlefield game. This will feel like an entirely fresh and new experience to those people.

The thing about people ruining the game on consoles by playing it like a death match game? Quite the opposite I think will happen. From my experience of BF:BC2 on the 360 is that those people get clobbered round after round. They might have a bunch of kills but their team is being walloped. If they want to hand me wins I'm fine with that.

not when the 11 snipers are on your team ha

Hah well this is true. Luckily I don't play Battlefield with out a squad.

@N7: Unfortunately, N7, Battlefield has been and likely always will be a rather niche game. It has a specific appeal that serves an itch, but only if its the type of itch you need scratch. I'd say if you tried some of the previous games and couldn't quite get into it, it's multiplayer is likely not for you.

As for it's singleplayer? I probably wouldn't drop 60 bucks to see it. DICE are not singleplayer developers, and its doubtful the story, cinematics and level design are going to be all that interesting. I'd stick with COD.

I was hoping this game had a little more depth then the CoD ones.
 
That is, until I saw the co op thing yesterday.
American cowboys, yeehaaw, get the fuck out.

@Sign said:

What confuses me more than anything (and I see it more on reddit /r/gaming than here) is the people praying for this game to kill CoD while at the same time bashing CoD players. What I don't think these people realize is if BF3 does in fact dethrone CoD than all those people that play CoD are going to come over to BF3. Is that what they really want to happen? Do you really want the people you so actively mock and detest to move over to the game you are playing?

This made me laugh out loud. Common sense, you sir have it. The reddit gaming section not so much it seems.

@allworkandlowpay: Thanks for the tips. :)

Luckily though, my uncle is getting the game and I'll be able to play it either way. But I can definitely see what you mean by it being a niche game.

i dont really see this as some amazing glorious game or anything. it just looks like a pretty awesome shooter is all.
 
also i dont we need to be "saved" from call of duty, while ive grown tired of its very specific style of play, it doesnt make it bad. lots of people like it, thats not a bad thing.
 
anyhow. BF3 looks to me, like BF2 and BC2 had some sort of incest love child and make BF3. this really oddly attractive inbred baby will have features from both of its parents. it'll look real great, but obviously it'll have its flaws just like every other game. i'm looking forward to it, but theres other games out there too.

It's been said the console version would be less than the PC version, yet they both retain the same name. I think it's a crafty choice, to use the same name, because console players, who's possibly only experience with the Battlefield world was BC1,  and/or BC2 and/or BF2:MC, will have a different expectation to gaming than players who have been a part of the Battlefield game since 1942. So all of a sudden one person, who's background may be of only PC, will get into a conversation/argument online with a person who's experience is from console; yet both parties won't necessarily know the backgrounds of each other.
 
This creates a situation where some people's thoughts can be changed by someone with a different background.... I don't know if I explained it well, but I'm sure if you think about it you may be able to see the angle.
 
@TaliciaDragonsong said:

I was hoping this game had a little more depth then the CoD ones.  That is, until I saw the co op thing yesterday. American cowboys, yeehaaw, get the fuck out.

I was hoping this game had a little more depth then the CoD ones.  That is, until I saw the co op thing yesterday. American cowboys, yeehaaw, get the fuck out.

@FourWude said:

@Napalm said:

I think I'm going to laugh when this gets four stars, and everybody starts crying heresy. I'm of the mind that modern military first-person shooters are on their way out.

8.8.... Gerstmann still has cold sweats to this day...

Never Forget. Where were you.

I didn't know what you were talking about, then I googled it, wow people are idiots, and the wolf sections of that game were so bad it should have gotten a way lower score.

Dude that 64 player trailer was what i was waiting for, completely sold I will still hire COD for my annual 5 hour Micheal Bay movie

@Seppli:  no, no no... you missed the point. You're going to make me pull up the video... Look when they have to shoot the first camera. The other character whispers about taking out the camera. When the main guy takes the camera out, the other character screams "He can't move, I've got him pinned down!" . <<------- WTF? he shouts it too. Isn't this supposed to be silence? sneak around like in MGS? These voice overs remove immersion. Then Karl Magnus says "The guy really don't like cameras, apparently" .  And there are more examples later on of how the voice overs are out of control.  If they wanted to do what they did, they need more coding logic. Shouldn't be do difficult, Star Wars Dark Forces employed it. When there is active shooting and you have been spotted by enemies and/or are engaging enemies, the music is faster. When you are undetected and little to no action, the music plays slow.  Shout when actively engaging many enemies in out of control situation, silence/radio communications when doing things in stealth.

While I believe that BF3 will be a finely executed game, the idea that some people seem to have that it will roll out and kill CoD is ridiculous. The amount of times I've seen it used as a excuse to be hostile to the franchise for no good reason kind of leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

@TaliciaDragonsong said:

I was hoping this game had a little more depth then the CoD ones.  That is, until I saw the co op thing yesterday. American cowboys, yeehaaw, get the fuck out.

So having a 'bad attitude' does negate depth somehow?  Each and every kit and vehicle and gun and gadget has more depth to it than most other action games have in their entirety. You don't actually believe that being an 'ace' pilot will be easy?  What a shallow assessment.

@Seppli said:

@TaliciaDragonsong said:

I was hoping this game had a little more depth then the CoD ones.  That is, until I saw the co op thing yesterday. American cowboys, yeehaaw, get the fuck out.

So having a 'bad attitude' does negate depth somehow?  Each and every kit and vehicle and gun and gadget has more depth to it than most other action games have in their entirety. You don't actually believe that being an 'ace' pilot will be easy?  What a shallow assessment.

I'll wait till I can play the game till I make such claims as you do. Battlefield is supposed to be quite realistic no? At least away from the american cowboy yeehaw specc ops bullshit other games pull. I had high hopes for some surgical army missions but all the yelling and swearing for no goddamn reason just ticks me off.  I mean, he silently shoots a guy who never knew what hit him and then yells: IS THAT ALL YOU GOT? Right, no thanks.

@TaliciaDragonsong said:

@Seppli said:

@TaliciaDragonsong said:

I was hoping this game had a little more depth then the CoD ones.  That is, until I saw the co op thing yesterday. American cowboys, yeehaaw, get the fuck out.

So having a 'bad attitude' does negate depth somehow?  Each and every kit and vehicle and gun and gadget has more depth to it than most other action games have in their entirety. You don't actually believe that being an 'ace' pilot will be easy?  What a shallow assessment.

I'll wait till I can play the game till I make such claims as you do. Battlefield is supposed to be quite realistic no? At least away from the american cowboy yeehaw specc ops bullshit other games pull. I had high hopes for some surgical army missions but all the yelling and swearing for no goddamn reason just ticks me off.  I mean, he silently shoots a guy who never knew what hit him and then yells: IS THAT ALL YOU GOT? Right, no thanks.

First of all, Battlefield was never about realism. 
It's more about fun and balance, so don't expect anything too realistic. 
 
And secondly, one of my few remaining gripes with the game is those ridiculous autotriggered VO shouts, I agree. Most fans think they're extremely stupid (in multiplayer), abd especially in this co-op case where it's supposed to be a stealth mission. I conversed with the VO director on twitter and he said that during the polish phases, they'll adjust those VO files so that they don't contradict with the context.  Still, i wonder how bad VO control during a co-op mission makes you completely dismiss a video game that is mainly about a refined vehicular combat multiplayer experience and an authentic-feeling single player campaign?

@Ahmad_Metallic:  Excuse me, but I never dismissed the entire game. Its still on my to buy list

But hey, thanks for the update on it.

I think that the PC crowd is expecting this to be BF2: 2 and it doesn't seem it will be that. It seems it going to be a continuation of the series as a whole and not just a continuation of the the numbered games in the series.

I expect it to be the best team based shooter since BF2142 (yes, I prefer 2142). After the Caspian Border trailer and from playing the alpha, I really have absolutely no doubt - DICE will knock this out of the park. But people are getting excited as well because this is the first next-gen game (I expect a little bit above BF3-fidelity on next-gen release games) - on PC that is. It's a quite big leap forward graphically that will actually require an upgrade, and the sheer scope of the maps is crazy. It's a shooter that's breaking new ground and is tearing down some barriers, even though the majority of these are purely technical, it's still a leap forward.

I am expecting a sequel to Battlefield 2 that incorporates some technological innovations from the Bad Company games. So far, that is what I have seen, and that is why I am excited. The maps look big and pretty. The destruction looks nice. Sounds like there will be tons of unlocks, which I am down for. Unlike some purists, I actually really liked BC2, though I never played the first Bad Company. Even so, I am really looking forward to a return to 64 player combat in the Battlefield tradition.

I really couldn't care less about the CoD vs. Battlefield fandom war. CoD 4 was a great game, but I kind of lost interest after that. I don't have any problem with other people liking that series.

@FourWude said:

@Napalm said:

I think I'm going to laugh when this gets four stars, and everybody starts crying heresy. I'm of the mind that modern military first-person shooters are on their way out.

8.8.... Gerstmann still has cold sweats to this day...

Never Forget. Where were you.

I didn't know what you were talking about, then I googled it, wow people are idiots, and the wolf sections of that game were so bad it should have gotten a way lower score.

I am really looking forward to this game but i think alot of people got seriously hyped just because the game looks great and then automatically assumed the gameplay would be amazing also. Regardless of how good it is, at the end of the day its still just another modern day shooter. I also still think Call of Duty is a very well made series, but it has got so popular that some people are starting to hate it for no good reason and are now rallying behind battlefield to take it off its throne.

I don't want to discuss how I feel about a game that isn't out yet, I just wanted to let you know that I love the use of capital letters at the beginning of each word.

Nobody should be expecting something new... Just a refined well made battlefield experience. I've not seen any testimonials to bring anything new... Besides, something doesn't need to be new, to be good or fun.

Nope, game will be the savior of all mankind.

Nope, game will be the savior of all mankind.

But honestly, I haven't played a game like BF2 since BF2. If BF3 is BF2 with better graphics and a full-fledged singleplayer campaign, it's basically an auto GOTY nomination.