Picked up the game a few weeks ago and I'm hooked. Determined to platinum the game, so I have a question:

Why do you want to PWWT all the worlds?  As far as rings go, 3-2 is the only world where u need PWWT to get a ring.

fake edit: You  might be going for the unique weapons (that require PWWT) in ur first run, but idk. As for PWWT, killing NPC's who are not Black phantoms (besides Satsuki & Miralda) will darken ur Character tendancy, which is a bad idea , since its much easier to first get PWCT, and then go for PBCT.

Regarding the 1st question in ur 2nd paragraph, you're correct.  Although you can only get the Friend's ring if  u've replied "YES"  to the Monumental (during the first encounter) & of course have PWCT.

As for killing all the vendors, just be sure u do it at the very end of the game (basically after you've obtained as many souls as possible). Vendors are more important than the rings  IMO, since they're vital for getting certain weapons trophies. They basically sell the material to fully upgrade certain weapons, which will cost well over 200,000 souls.

Don't bother killing yourself to fight BP Miralda. Just invade and kill someone for PBCT.  Suicide somewhere where a Black Phantom actually drops something of value (for a trophy).

The two rings on the first run can be done, but if that's all u care about, then you'd be missing a huge opportunity to get the Unique weapons. You'd be creating a MUCH bigger hassle for ur NG+ playthrough.

Yeah I'm trying to get as much done on the first run as I can. That's why I'm trying to turn the worlds PW first - so I can get all the unique stuff that pops up from having PWWT. Once I've beaten the world and done the PWWT events, I figured suiciding multiple times to get PBWT will open up that stuff to do as well (including the Black Phantom NPCs). It just seems that adjusting your Character Tendency is harder than World Tendency, so I want to be sure to get that part right.

Sucks about hearing you fight BP Satsuki. I was just about to type a message warning you to not get PBWT in that world. You  missed a chance to get the Makoto (correct me if im wrong). You already had PWWT, so if you went to 4-2 after talking to Satsuki, you would have found the Makoto. Got to wait for NG+ now. When you go back to ShrineOS, be sure to kill BP Satsuki AND the Primevil demon. That way you won't have to kill that many bosses on NG+ to get PWWT.

Never fought BP Satsuki, but as for BP NPCs, they can definitely be hard.Schriver the Wanderer is the hardest, since you can't run far away, and then sneak up on him when his back is turned. You might be able to use that tactic with Satsuki. Basically Schriver and Selena are the hardest, since that tactic doesn't work on them.

I got the gold trophies last month, so here are the unique weapons that require a specific World Tendancy:

PWWT: Bramd, 5-3 // Istarelle, 5-1 // Makoto, 4-2 // Dragon Bone Smasher, 2-3 //  Dull Rat's Ring, 3-2 (ring is in 3-1, but key for the cell is in 3-2 during PWWT)
PBWT: Blind, 5-2 // Talisman of Beasts, 2-2 (or kill Ostrava for Meristopheles) // Posphorus Pole, 3-1

I'd go for: PWWT weapons, Friend's Ring, PBWT weapons, Foe's Ring. In that order.

Before killing any Vendors:  buy however many Shards/Stones you need, upgrade what you can (but don't fuse any weapons with Boss Demon's Souls till NG+), and NEVER give Blacksmith Ed your Red Hot Demon Soul on your 1st run (wait till NG+).

It is possible to get all pure black CT events, all pure white CT events, and all rings in one game.  It is really really complicated though.  If you really want to try it I would advise looking it up in a guide.  However.... if you have already started you can probably forget about it.  No matter what you do it takes a minimum 4 playthroughs to platinum the game anyway so don't get too hung up on it.

" Sucks about hearing you fight BP Satsuki. I was just about to type a message warning you to not get PBWT in that world. You  missed a chance to get the Makoto (correct me if im wrong). You already had PWWT, so if you went to 4-2 after talking to Satsuki, you would have found the Makoto. Got to wait for NG+ now. When you go back to ShrineOS, be sure to kill BP Satsuki AND the Primevil demon. That way you won't have to kill that many bosses on NG+ to get PWWT.Never fought BP Satsuki, but as for BP NPCs, they can definitely be hard.Schriver the Wanderer is the hardest, since you can't run far away, and then sneak up on him when his back is turned. You might be able to use that tactic with Satsuki. Basically Schriver and Selena are the hardest, since that tactic doesn't work on them. "

Protip: You do not, I repeat, do NOT  want to get the Foe's ring in the first run if you're going for platinum.

You're going to reach at least NG+++ for platinum so it's best to save Foe's ring to last. The reason? PWWT + PWCT = You deal 40% more damage and enemies have 20% less hp. You want to keep your PWCT as long as possible since it's hard to go back to PWCT and easy enough to do the Mephistopheles quest last. Also remember: if you kill the NPCs with soulsucker, poison cloud or by fall, your CT does not change. That can be either good or bad depending on what you want.

So wait, WT and CT both carry over to the next game? I thought WT was reset from one run to the next along with NPCs you killed in previous runs returning?

" So wait, WT and CT both carry over to the next game? I thought WT was reset from one run to the next along with NPCs you killed in previous runs returning? "

Hmmm. That could be a problem then. I already forced the Shrine of Storms to PBWT. The other worlds are in various states between neutral and White/Pure White. I'll finish out the game and do all that I can. If I do have to start a fresh character, at least I had fun with this run and I can get most of the trophies out of the way. On the other hand, it might be a nice challenge to go into NG+ with PBWT. I'm already over-leveled and I've been walking through the last few levels with no deaths...

" Hmmm. That could be a problem then. I already forced the Shrine of Storms to PBWT. The other worlds are in various states between neutral and White/Pure White. I'll finish out the game and do all that I can. If I do have to start a fresh character, at least I had fun with this run and I can get most of the trophies out of the way. On the other hand, it might be a nice challenge to go into NG+ with PBWT. I'm already over-leveled and I've been walking through the last few levels with no deaths...

Anyway, thanks for the info. :)

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Yeah, found that out last night. I should be good to go pushing all worlds to black and then killing the BPs. I'll be sure to do all the PWWT stuff first, but Neutral WT won't be a problem.

" Yeah, found that out last night. I should be good to go pushing all worlds to black and then killing the BPs. I'll be sure to do all the PWWT stuff first, but Neutral WT won't be a problem.

Almost done with the game. I've got to finish up 3-2 and the rest of that world, then all the WT stuff and a little weapon upgrading. Past that it's just 1-4 and the final boss I think. 

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@Filthy_Man_DF said:

Sucks about hearing you fight BP Satsuki. I was just about to type a message warning you to not get PBWT in that world. You missed a chance to get the Makoto (correct me if im wrong). You already had PWWT, so if you went to 4-2 after talking to Satsuki, you would have found the Makoto. Got to wait for NG+ now. When you go back to ShrineOS, be sure to kill BP Satsuki AND the Primevil demon. That way you won't have to kill that many bosses on NG+ to get PWWT.Never fought BP Satsuki, but as for BP NPCs, they can definitely be hard.Schriver the Wanderer is the hardest, since you can't run far away, and then sneak up on him when his back is turned. You might be able to use that tactic with Satsuki. Basically Schriver and Selena are the hardest, since that tactic doesn't work on them.

If you have a decent bow, you can shoot a Scirvir from across the pit. There is a platform almost directly across from the cave opening. If you position yourself there, you can snipe him and (IIRC) he will not shoot back. I do not remember if you are close enough to lock on a spell (like poison) from that distance.

I think you can kill (or wear down) Selena from the other side of the barrier with a bow. If you have Soulsucker and a Grave Robber's ring, you can walk up behind her and cast the spell.

My hardest BP is Rydell.