Final Fantasy XIII
Game » consists of 17 releases. Released Mar 09, 2010
This entry into the Final Fantasy universe is set in the worlds of Pulse and Cocoon. Players take control of multiple characters who are caught in a war between these worlds.
According to critics, this game is worse than FFX-2
FFX-2 Metacritic page
If you ignore the thread's admittedly stupid title for a second - what do you think? Is there something to it, or is it just a testament to the flawed nature of metacritic? Can you even compare the two?
Do you think X-2 was/is a better game than XIII?
It's cool to hate on FF13 the same way it was cool to give MW2 an amazing score even though it's just COD 4 1.5.
" It's cool to hate on FF13 the same way it was cool to give MW2 an amazing score even though it's just COD 4 1.5. "Cute, but everyone knows that all the cool kids bitched about MW2 when it in fact deserved the scores it got.
" @Bucketdeth said:So it's a fact that MW2 deserved those scores? Well I disagree as I found MW2 as boring as COD 4, I guess I could say this is fact just like you had." It's cool to hate on FF13 the same way it was cool to give MW2 an amazing score even though it's just COD 4 1.5. "Cute, but everyone knows that all the cool kids bitched about MW2 when it in fact deserved the scores it got. "
FFX-2 was released how many years ago? Standards change along with the times - it's impossible to compare the two and how good they were comparatively to the games out at the time because so much has changed and I'd wager that standards are actually higher now than they were back then.
What? Either this is a copy-cat of the other asshole, or the same asshole. Either way, you're an asshole.
" FFX-2 was released how many years ago? Standards change along with the times - it's impossible to compare the two and how good they were comparatively to the games out at the time because so much has changed and I'd wager that standards are actually higher now than they were back then. "But the point is that people do compare these games across generations and even decades. That's why I'm bringing this up. People are always going "Oh, it's good, but it can't touch *favorite FF game*", or the even worse "This sucks, the series was ruined after *favorite FF game*"
I Loved 13.
And FFX-2 was pretty good, but this XIII Seems promising so far. No complaints, except for the amount of times pressing A :P
Probably because there are a couple reviews in there that gave it ridiculously low scores for publicity, which obviously is going to lower the average.
I never liked metacritics much anyway, I take question with any site that assigns score-less reviews with a score. All reviews should really be scoreless, in my opinion. Make people actually read.
Not the point - the point is that consumers are comparing them like that. I think it's interesting how scores from seven years ago translates into scores today, and how that stands in comparison the general public opinion. Yes, I picked a stupid title." @Magresda: Yes, dudes of forums do that all the time. But did the critics do that? Did anyone, in a professional review that you have read, say that "by both the standards of today's gaming industry and where my personal preferences currently stand, FFX-2 is a better game than FFXIII"? "
" It's cool to hate on FF13 the same way it was cool to give MW2 an amazing score even though it's just COD 4 1.5. "You do realize the inherent hypocrisy of this post, right? Whenever there is a topic about MW2 on these forums there will always be a bunch of people who feel the need to bash it, much like what people are starting to do for FFXIII for the exact same reasons (i.e. It's popular). You are free to not like MW2, but other people are also free to not like FFXIII.
In any case, everything I have heard about X-2 sounds... bad. I'm sure that XIII is the better game, whatever that really means, I don't care. Reviews are only effective when taken in the immediate context of a game's release.
" @MysteriousBob said:You're so cool." @Bucketdeth said:So it's a fact that MW2 deserved those scores? Well I disagree as I found MW2 as boring as COD 4, I guess I could say this is fact just like you had. "" It's cool to hate on FF13 the same way it was cool to give MW2 an amazing score even though it's just COD 4 1.5. "Cute, but everyone knows that all the cool kids bitched about MW2 when it in fact deserved the scores it got. "
Not even that. It's just a number! There's no actual meaning to that number because it's a composite of multiple review scores, which people shouldn't be relying on anyway." Can we not use metacritic as the one all be all for the quality of games? Shouldn't your opinion matter too? Not solely the opinion of random journalists/bloggers? "
" @MysteriousBob said:If you hated both Modern Warfares then you just probably have bad tastes, nobody to blame but yourself" @Bucketdeth said:So it's a fact that MW2 deserved those scores? Well I disagree as I found MW2 as boring as COD 4, I guess I could say this is fact just like you had. "" It's cool to hate on FF13 the same way it was cool to give MW2 an amazing score even though it's just COD 4 1.5. "Cute, but everyone knows that all the cool kids bitched about MW2 when it in fact deserved the scores it got. "
X-2 and Final Fantasy 13 have the very same lead director on the project, so a comparison is apt.
Also not a fan of his work, and consider those two (along with 11, and the japanese 2) to be the worst ones of the series. I guess I just don't like his ideas of what final fantasy should be.
" @Bucketdeth said:Thanks man, I'm glad you think so :)" @MysteriousBob said:You're so cool. "" @Bucketdeth said:So it's a fact that MW2 deserved those scores? Well I disagree as I found MW2 as boring as COD 4, I guess I could say this is fact just like you had. "" It's cool to hate on FF13 the same way it was cool to give MW2 an amazing score even though it's just COD 4 1.5. "Cute, but everyone knows that all the cool kids bitched about MW2 when it in fact deserved the scores it got. "
" It's cool to hate on FF13 the same way it was cool to give MW2 an amazing score even though it's just COD 4 1.5. "It was cool to hate on MW2 the same way it's cool to defend Final Fantasy XIII even though it has tons of shortcomings.
See what I did there? See how I took your bullshit statement and turned it into an almost identical bullshit statement, only now it works against you? Yeah.
FF X-2 was a very good game. It was very open, had a fantastic job/battle-system, and a ton of side-content.
I get the impression that almost everyone who bags on th game never even played it. Yes, it's cutesy, and has all of the YRP girl power, but that doesn't make it a bad game, just different.
More like MW2 is COD 4 minus lean, minus 8 hrs of campaign, minus arcade mode, minus dedicated servers, minus 14 players on PC in MP, plus added features which don't actually improve on the original much if at all." It's cool to hate on FF13 the same way it was cool to give MW2 an amazing score even though it's just COD 4 1.5. "
@Vitor said:
" FFX-2 was released how many years ago? Standards change along with the times - it's impossible to compare the two and how good they were comparatively to the games out at the time because so much has changed and I'd wager that standards are actually higher now than they were back then. "
And I'd wager that in the PS2's far more competitive RPG market standards were higher. It's not impossible to compare the two at all. That's like saying that Stars Wars Episode 4 and Star Wars Episode 1 can't be compared because technologically Episode 1 is a lot more complex. Episode 4 is a much more effectively told tale and both are from the same universe with many of the same concepts at play.
Mechanically those two games are pretty similar, being the same director and all. For the longest I was able to say FFX-2 had the best battle system in the series.. not anymore!
" @Bucketdeth said:If you watch your shitty anime (which is all anime) I think you have a horrible taste in tv and should be executed on spot." @MysteriousBob said:If you hated both Modern Warfares then you just probably have bad tastes, nobody to blame but yourself "" @Bucketdeth said:So it's a fact that MW2 deserved those scores? Well I disagree as I found MW2 as boring as COD 4, I guess I could say this is fact just like you had. "" It's cool to hate on FF13 the same way it was cool to give MW2 an amazing score even though it's just COD 4 1.5. "Cute, but everyone knows that all the cool kids bitched about MW2 when it in fact deserved the scores it got. "
@Icemael said:
" @Bucketdeth said:" It's cool to hate on FF13 the same way it was cool to give MW2 an amazing score even though it's just COD 4 1.5. "It was cool to hate on MW2 the same way it's cool to defend Final Fantasy XIII even though it has tons of shortcomings. See what I did there? See how I took your bullshit statement and turned it into an almost identical bullshit statement, only now it works against you? Yeah. "
Theres one thing that pisses me off on the internet and it's cocky shit heads who think there fucking cool sitting behind there screen knowing that there are 0 consequences.
That would be you.
"@Icemael said:Lolirony." @Bucketdeth said:Theres one thing that pisses me off on the internet and it's cocky shit heads who think there fucking cool sitting behind there screen knowing that there are 0 consequences. That would be you. "" It's cool to hate on FF13 the same way it was cool to give MW2 an amazing score even though it's just COD 4 1.5. "It was cool to hate on MW2 the same way it's cool to defend Final Fantasy XIII even though it has tons of shortcomings. See what I did there? See how I took your bullshit statement and turned it into an almost identical bullshit statement, only now it works against you? Yeah. "
" @Bucketdeth: Alright buddy, the gloves are off then *Clears throat* Buckethead is overrated "Agreed.
" @Whisperkill said:Wait what.....?" @Bucketdeth: Alright buddy, the gloves are off then *Clears throat* Buckethead is overrated "Agreed. "
*head explodes*
" @Bucketdeth said:I'm in Labrador Canada, come visit me so I can shove my foot up your ass."@Icemael said:Lolirony. "" @Bucketdeth said:Theres one thing that pisses me off on the internet and it's cocky shit heads who think there fucking cool sitting behind there screen knowing that there are 0 consequences. That would be you. "" It's cool to hate on FF13 the same way it was cool to give MW2 an amazing score even though it's just COD 4 1.5. "It was cool to hate on MW2 the same way it's cool to defend Final Fantasy XIII even though it has tons of shortcomings. See what I did there? See how I took your bullshit statement and turned it into an almost identical bullshit statement, only now it works against you? Yeah. "
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