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    Final Fantasy XIII

    Game » consists of 17 releases. Released Mar 09, 2010

    This entry into the Final Fantasy universe is set in the worlds of Pulse and Cocoon. Players take control of multiple characters who are caught in a war between these worlds.

    According to critics, this game is worse than FFX-2

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    #1  Edited By Magresda
    FFXIII Metacritic page 
     
    FFX-2 Metacritic page 
     
    If you ignore the thread's admittedly stupid title for a second - what do you think? Is there something to it, or is it just a testament to the flawed nature of metacritic? Can you even compare the two? 
      
    Do you think X-2 was/is a better game than XIII?
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    #2  Edited By august

    More of this crap. Yay.

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    It's cool to hate on FF13 the same way it was cool to give MW2 an amazing score even though it's just COD 4 1.5.

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    #4  Edited By webby

    I would say an 8.2 for FF13 but I hated X-2 I would give it less than 8.5 probably around 7.5 
     
    Edit: Not really HATED but disliked

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    #5  Edited By MysteriousBob
    @Bucketdeth said:
    " It's cool to hate on FF13 the same way it was cool to give MW2 an amazing score even though it's just COD 4 1.5. "
    Cute, but everyone knows that all the cool kids bitched about MW2 when it in fact deserved the scores it got.
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    #6  Edited By Jeust

    Well you can say that, since each have 45 reviews and all, but it's too subjective. 
     
    Still it is a legacy after his own vision for the director of both FF games.

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    #7  Edited By turboman

    is it a crime to like FFX-2? 

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    @MysteriousBob said:
    " @Bucketdeth said:
    " It's cool to hate on FF13 the same way it was cool to give MW2 an amazing score even though it's just COD 4 1.5. "
    Cute, but everyone knows that all the cool kids bitched about MW2 when it in fact deserved the scores it got. "
    So it's a fact that MW2 deserved those scores? Well I disagree as I found MW2 as boring as COD 4, I guess I could say this is fact just like you had.
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    #9  Edited By Cornman89

    Please. Please don't do this...

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    #10  Edited By Meowayne

    I have not played X-2, but so far XIII is very much like I fear X-2 is. 
     
    XIII is certainly not a great game.

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    #11  Edited By vitor

    FFX-2 was released how many years ago? Standards change along with the times - it's impossible to compare the two and how good they were comparatively to the games out at the time because so much has changed and I'd wager that standards are actually higher now than they were back then.

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    #12  Edited By HaltIamReptar

    What?  Either this is a copy-cat of the other asshole, or the same asshole.  Either way, you're an asshole.

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    #13  Edited By Magresda
    @Vitor said:
    " FFX-2 was released how many years ago? Standards change along with the times - it's impossible to compare the two and how good they were comparatively to the games out at the time because so much has changed and I'd wager that standards are actually higher now than they were back then. "
    But the point is that people do compare these games across generations and even decades. That's why I'm bringing this up. People are always going "Oh, it's good, but it can't touch *favorite FF game*", or the even worse "This sucks, the series was ruined after *favorite FF game*"
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    #14  Edited By CornontheCobbe

    I Loved 13. 
     
    And FFX-2 was pretty good, but this XIII Seems promising so far. No complaints, except for the amount of times pressing A :P

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    #15  Edited By Addfwyn

    Probably because there are a couple reviews in there that gave it ridiculously low scores for publicity, which obviously is going to lower the average. 
     
    I never liked metacritics much anyway, I take question with any site that assigns score-less reviews with a score.  All reviews should really be scoreless, in my opinion.  Make people actually read.

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    #16  Edited By Cornman89
    @Magresda: Yes, dudes of forums do that all the time. But did the critics do that? Did anyone, in a professional review that you have read, say that "by both the standards and trends of today's gaming industry, and where my personal preferences currently stand, FFX-2 is a better game than FFXIII"?
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    #17  Edited By Magresda
    @Cornman89 said: 

    @Magresda: Yes, dudes of forums do that all the time. But did the critics do that? Did anyone, in a professional review that you have read, say that "by both the standards of today's gaming industry and where my personal preferences currently stand, FFX-2 is a better game than FFXIII"? "

    Not the point - the point is that consumers are comparing them like that. I think it's interesting how scores from seven years ago translates into scores today, and how that stands in comparison the general public opinion.  Yes, I picked a stupid title.
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    #18  Edited By ArbitraryWater
    @Bucketdeth said:
    " It's cool to hate on FF13 the same way it was cool to give MW2 an amazing score even though it's just COD 4 1.5. "
    You do realize the inherent hypocrisy of this post, right? Whenever there is a topic about MW2 on these forums there will always be a bunch of people who feel the need to bash it, much like what people are starting to do for FFXIII for the exact same reasons (i.e. It's popular). You are free to not like MW2, but other people are also free to not like FFXIII. 
     
    In any case, everything I have heard about X-2 sounds... bad. I'm sure that XIII is the better game, whatever that really means, I don't care. Reviews are only effective when taken in the immediate context of a game's release.
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    #19  Edited By Alexander
    @Bucketdeth said:
    " @MysteriousBob said:
    " @Bucketdeth said:
    " It's cool to hate on FF13 the same way it was cool to give MW2 an amazing score even though it's just COD 4 1.5. "
    Cute, but everyone knows that all the cool kids bitched about MW2 when it in fact deserved the scores it got. "
    So it's a fact that MW2 deserved those scores? Well I disagree as I found MW2 as boring as COD 4, I guess I could say this is fact just like you had. "
    You're so cool.
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    #20  Edited By LordAndrew

    Another person comparing games based solely on composite review scores? Get out of here.

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    #21  Edited By Ace829

    Can we not use metacritic as the one all be all for the quality of games? Shouldn't your opinion matter too? Not solely the opinion of random journalists/bloggers?

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    #22  Edited By rjayb89

    I liked X-2.  Enough crazy for me to enjoy.

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    #23  Edited By LordAndrew
    @Ace829 said:

    " Can we not use metacritic as the one all be all for the quality of games? Shouldn't your opinion matter too? Not solely the opinion of random journalists/bloggers? "

    Not even that. It's just a number! There's no actual meaning to that number because it's a composite of multiple review scores, which people shouldn't be relying on anyway.
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    #24  Edited By Whisperkill
    @Bucketdeth said:
    " @MysteriousBob said:
    " @Bucketdeth said:
    " It's cool to hate on FF13 the same way it was cool to give MW2 an amazing score even though it's just COD 4 1.5. "
    Cute, but everyone knows that all the cool kids bitched about MW2 when it in fact deserved the scores it got. "
    So it's a fact that MW2 deserved those scores? Well I disagree as I found MW2 as boring as COD 4, I guess I could say this is fact just like you had. "
    If you hated both Modern Warfares then you just probably have bad tastes, nobody to blame but yourself
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    #25  Edited By Demyx

    Its metacritic....And some people did kinda like X-2. I personally didn't play enough of either to have an opinion.

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    #26  Edited By Gabriel

    Final Fantasy hate train is now in full motion, wheter it is a better game or not it's gonna get hated on.

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    #27  Edited By Steve_C

    X-2 is pretty good actually.

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    #29  Edited By MikkaQ

    X-2 and Final Fantasy 13 have the very same lead director on the project, so a comparison is apt.  
     
    Also not a fan of his work, and consider those two (along with 11, and the japanese 2) to be the worst ones of the series. I guess I just don't like his ideas of what final fantasy should be.

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    @Alexander said:
    " @Bucketdeth said:
    " @MysteriousBob said:
    " @Bucketdeth said:
    " It's cool to hate on FF13 the same way it was cool to give MW2 an amazing score even though it's just COD 4 1.5. "
    Cute, but everyone knows that all the cool kids bitched about MW2 when it in fact deserved the scores it got. "
    So it's a fact that MW2 deserved those scores? Well I disagree as I found MW2 as boring as COD 4, I guess I could say this is fact just like you had. "
    You're so cool. "
    Thanks man, I'm glad you think so :)
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    #31  Edited By Icemael
    @Bucketdeth said:
    " It's cool to hate on FF13 the same way it was cool to give MW2 an amazing score even though it's just COD 4 1.5. "
    It was cool to hate on MW2 the same way it's cool to defend Final Fantasy XIII even though it has tons of shortcomings. 
     
    See what I did there? See how I took your bullshit statement and turned it into an almost identical bullshit statement, only now it works against you? Yeah.
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    #32  Edited By ch13696

    This is better than X-2 and I like X-2. But it's also better than XII. Also it's not better than X.

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    #33  Edited By Mmmslash

    FF X-2 was a very good game. It was very open, had a fantastic job/battle-system, and a ton of side-content.
     
    I get the impression that almost everyone who bags on th game never even played it. Yes, it's cutesy, and has all of the YRP girl power, but that doesn't make it a bad game, just different.

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    #34  Edited By meteora

    Metacritic should never be used to judge a game. Ever.

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    #35  Edited By natetodamax

    According to natetodamax, I couldn't possibly care less what the critics say.

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    #36  Edited By august

    People don't like a game I like as much as they should.
     
    Quick.
     
    To the internet.

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    #37  Edited By Addfwyn
    @Mmmslash:  
     
    Very true, it wasn't a super epic story or anything, but it was a downright FUN game, and really that's what matters.
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    #38  Edited By SeriouslyNow
    @Bucketdeth said:

    " It's cool to hate on FF13 the same way it was cool to give MW2 an amazing score even though it's just COD 4 1.5. "

    More like MW2 is COD 4 minus lean, minus 8 hrs of campaign, minus arcade mode, minus dedicated servers, minus 14 players on PC in MP, plus added features which don't actually improve on the original much if at all.
     
    @Vitor said:
    " FFX-2 was released how many years ago? Standards change along with the times - it's impossible to compare the two and how good they were comparatively to the games out at the time because so much has changed and I'd wager that standards are actually higher now than they were back then. "

    And I'd wager that in the PS2's far more competitive RPG market standards were higher.  It's not impossible to compare the two at all.  That's like saying that Stars Wars Episode 4 and Star Wars Episode 1 can't be compared because technologically Episode 1 is a lot more complex.  Episode 4 is a much more effectively told tale and both are from the same universe with many of the same concepts at play.
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    #39  Edited By RainVillain

    Mechanically those two games are pretty similar, being the same director and all. For the longest I was able to say FFX-2 had the best battle system in the series.. not anymore!

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    #40  Edited By MormonWarrior

    Well, I could say I have about as much interest in playing X-2 as I do playing XIII. Which is none.

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    @Whisperkill said:
    " @Bucketdeth said:
    " @MysteriousBob said:
    " @Bucketdeth said:
    " It's cool to hate on FF13 the same way it was cool to give MW2 an amazing score even though it's just COD 4 1.5. "
    Cute, but everyone knows that all the cool kids bitched about MW2 when it in fact deserved the scores it got. "
    So it's a fact that MW2 deserved those scores? Well I disagree as I found MW2 as boring as COD 4, I guess I could say this is fact just like you had. "
    If you hated both Modern Warfares then you just probably have bad tastes, nobody to blame but yourself "
    If you watch your shitty anime (which is all anime) I think you have a horrible taste in tv and should be executed on spot.
     
    @Icemael said:
    " @Bucketdeth said:
    " It's cool to hate on FF13 the same way it was cool to give MW2 an amazing score even though it's just COD 4 1.5. "
    It was cool to hate on MW2 the same way it's cool to defend Final Fantasy XIII even though it has tons of shortcomings.  See what I did there? See how I took your bullshit statement and turned it into an almost identical bullshit statement, only now it works against you? Yeah. "

    Theres one thing that pisses me off on the internet and it's cocky shit heads who think there fucking cool sitting behind there screen knowing that there are 0 consequences.
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
    That would be you.
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    #42  Edited By Fbomb

    Fuck off. No reviewer rates a game versus older titles. It's rated against its own merits and current standard for a game in its genre, on its given platform. So, to quote myself from earlier, fuck off.

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    #43  Edited By Whisperkill
    @Bucketdeth: Alright buddy, the gloves are off then 
     
    *Clears throat* 
     
    Buckethead is overrated
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    #44  Edited By Icemael
    @Bucketdeth said:
    "@Icemael said:
    " @Bucketdeth said:
    " It's cool to hate on FF13 the same way it was cool to give MW2 an amazing score even though it's just COD 4 1.5. "
    It was cool to hate on MW2 the same way it's cool to defend Final Fantasy XIII even though it has tons of shortcomings.  See what I did there? See how I took your bullshit statement and turned it into an almost identical bullshit statement, only now it works against you? Yeah. "
    Theres one thing that pisses me off on the internet and it's cocky shit heads who think there fucking cool sitting behind there screen knowing that there are 0 consequences.   That would be you. "
    Lolirony.
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    @Whisperkill said:
    " @Bucketdeth: Alright buddy, the gloves are off then  *Clears throat*  Buckethead is overrated "
    Agreed.
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    #46  Edited By Rowr

    The op is valid?
     
    Why are you all being such assholes about this. 
     
    The question was simply 

    DO YOU THINK X-2 IS A BETTER GAME THAN XIII?

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    #47  Edited By Whisperkill
    @Bucketdeth said:
    " @Whisperkill said:
    " @Bucketdeth: Alright buddy, the gloves are off then  *Clears throat*  Buckethead is overrated "
    Agreed. "
    Wait what.....? 
     
    *head explodes*
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    @Icemael said:
    " @Bucketdeth said:
    "@Icemael said:
    " @Bucketdeth said:
    " It's cool to hate on FF13 the same way it was cool to give MW2 an amazing score even though it's just COD 4 1.5. "
    It was cool to hate on MW2 the same way it's cool to defend Final Fantasy XIII even though it has tons of shortcomings.  See what I did there? See how I took your bullshit statement and turned it into an almost identical bullshit statement, only now it works against you? Yeah. "
    Theres one thing that pisses me off on the internet and it's cocky shit heads who think there fucking cool sitting behind there screen knowing that there are 0 consequences.   That would be you. "
    Lolirony. "
    I'm in Labrador Canada, come visit me so I can shove my foot up your ass.
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    #49  Edited By CL60

    Yay for topics like these..

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    #50  Edited By Belonpopo

    Someone hasn't figures out that Metacritic is really dumb.

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