Here in Sweden we seem to have the most expensive games on earth (?)
I read about you people in the US paying 50-something bucks for a new game and not liking it.
At Gamestop Sweden, I'd have to pay 97.80$ for a new copy of Infamous, used I'd have to pay 83.81$.
And that's not something I'm ready to pay for a game I'd get sick of after a week or two.
This seems kind of unfair, don't you think? :)
I just did the math for game prices and...
Is that 97 US dollars or Swedish Krona??? I know you put a Dollar sign and all, but I don't know what the Swedish Krona sign looks like...." Here in Sweden we seem to have the most expensive games on earth (?) I read about you people in the US paying 50-something bucks for a new game and not liking it. At Gamestop Sweden, I'd have to pay 97.80$ for a new copy of Infamous, used I'd have to pay 83.81$. And that's not something I'm ready to pay for a game I'd get sick of after a week or two. This seems kind of unfair, don't you think? :) "
new games here in israel cost 100+ american dollars for consoles and 55-65 american dollars for PC .....
That is just ridiculous. It does make me appreciate the prices here.
Just a question though, does the price of the standard of living balance out the amount spent for a game in European countries?
I'd say it does... We have free healthcare, care for homeless (there's almost no homeless people in northern Sweden, at least I haven't seen any), free schools + school food, etc etc
really the list just goes on.
But yeah, since I'm a gamer, it kind of pisses me off. 349 Swedish kroner is 2400 MS points, versus $29,99 in the US. 349kr is about $50 converted.
" I don't think you can just do conversions like that because the economy where you live is not the same as in the US. You guys may get higher wages there(when converted to dollars) then we do over here for instance, so it'd even out the difference. "That shouldn't matter. So if you make more money things should cost you more? That's faulty logic.
also, consider importing games. I believe the ps3 is region free (but check elsewhere first). That means, if you pay $60 for a new ps3 game and $10 to get it shipped to you, you're still saving about 20 bucks.
If the people can pay more, I can get away with charging more.Price is whatever the market will bear." @bekern said:
" I don't think you can just do conversions like that because the economy where you live is not the same as in the US. You guys may get higher wages there(when converted to dollars) then we do over here for instance, so it'd even out the difference. "That shouldn't matter. So if you make more money things should cost you more? That's faulty logic. "
I guess that kind of makes sense, but you should really give the props to the, well I guess the "founding fathers" of modern Sweden... Before this society, Sweden was a country consisting of a really, really, really rich king and buttloads of poor hard-working farmers. Really. Nowadays, it's a great society to live in." I've always marvelled at how well educated(socially) Swedish and scandinavian people must be to constantly vote for high taxes so that society can be more equal. Props to you guys. "
**EDIT**: Well, except the fucking game prices. Damnit.
This argument is older than time. Usually we all sit here and bitch about paying a few extra *currency* because we're from Europe/UK/Canada/Australia, but then someone from Mexico or somewhere in Asia posts something that blows us the hell out of the water, paying hundreds of USD for games that are censored or almost impossible to actually get hold of etc etc.
Yes, we pay more, but there is always someone much worse off than you, and if you came to the conclusion Sweden pays the most, you're doing it wrong.
Yeah at first it's $10 more expensive, but when the price drops its the same as US."In Canada its usually US prices + 10$ so 70 for a new release.... The trick is to wait for them to get to the bargain bin to 20 or 30$. And they all end up there. "
" This argument is older than time. Usually we all sit here and bitch about paying a few extra *currency* because we're from Europe/UK/Canada/Australia, but then someone from Mexico or somewhere in Asia posts something that blows us the hell out of the water, paying hundreds of USD for games that are censored or almost impossible to actually get hold of etc etc. Yes, we pay more, but there is always someone much worse off than you, and if you came to the conclusion Sweden pays the most, you're doing it wrong. "This is why I put a question mark in the BEGINNING of my post. And look! I got a great discussion going.
" This argument is older than time. Usually we all sit here and bitch about paying a few extra *currency* because we're from Europe/UK/Canada/Australia, but then someone from Mexico or somewhere in Asia posts something that blows us the hell out of the water, paying hundreds of USD for games that are censored or almost impossible to actually get hold of etc etc. Yes, we pay more, but there is always someone much worse off than you, and if you came to the conclusion Sweden pays the most, you're doing it wrong. "
what do u think of these prices? :
@Ahmad_Metallic said:
" new games here in israel cost 100+ american dollars for consoles and 55-65 american dollars for PC ..... "
it must suck to be paying $100 for a new game :( in america it's $60 for a new game, for the PC it's $50. i just thoguth i would let u know.
i'm hoping that the games stay at $60. it's a bit pricey but it seems like every time a new system comes out games come up $10. i remember somewhere some developer said that games should be $20 a game. i would also like that. i think it would lead to more people playing video games.
" @bekern said:That is, in fact, very basic economics." I don't think you can just do conversions like that because the economy where you live is not the same as in the US. You guys may get higher wages there(when converted to dollars) then we do over here for instance, so it'd even out the difference. "That shouldn't matter. So if you make more money things should cost you more? That's faulty logic. "
" @RsistncE said:In Estonia at least that really isnt the case. US actually has higher wages than us I think. The prices for video games just suck here because they are still treated as crazy alien technology. Plus theres practically no demand for them here either, I think that Estonia honestly got like 50 copies of Infamous overall and we JUST got them." @bekern said:That is, in fact, very basic economics. "" I don't think you can just do conversions like that because the economy where you live is not the same as in the US. You guys may get higher wages there(when converted to dollars) then we do over here for instance, so it'd even out the difference. "That shouldn't matter. So if you make more money things should cost you more? That's faulty logic. "
Everything else has normal prices, There are less than 10 stores in Estonia that even have ps3 games I think.
" @Farmer said:Out of interest, are games that make it to Estonia translated into Estonian? I can't imagine that to be the case." @RsistncE said:In Estonia at least that really isnt the case. US actually has higher wages than us I think. The prices for video games just suck here because they are still treated as crazy alien technology. Plus theres practically no demand for them here either, I think that Estonia honestly got like 50 copies of Infamous overall and we JUST got them.Everything else has normal prices, There are less than 10 stores in Estonia that even have ps3 games I think. "" @bekern said:That is, in fact, very basic economics. "" I don't think you can just do conversions like that because the economy where you live is not the same as in the US. You guys may get higher wages there(when converted to dollars) then we do over here for instance, so it'd even out the difference. "That shouldn't matter. So if you make more money things should cost you more? That's faulty logic. "
" @KillaMaStA said:No games in Europe are really translated from English. Except I guess for Germany. They seem to translate everything.." @Farmer said:Out of interest, are games that make it to Estonia translated into Estonian? I can't imagine that to be the case. "" @RsistncE said:In Estonia at least that really isnt the case. US actually has higher wages than us I think. The prices for video games just suck here because they are still treated as crazy alien technology. Plus theres practically no demand for them here either, I think that Estonia honestly got like 50 copies of Infamous overall and we JUST got them.Everything else has normal prices, There are less than 10 stores in Estonia that even have ps3 games I think. "" @bekern said:That is, in fact, very basic economics. "" I don't think you can just do conversions like that because the economy where you live is not the same as in the US. You guys may get higher wages there(when converted to dollars) then we do over here for instance, so it'd even out the difference. "That shouldn't matter. So if you make more money things should cost you more? That's faulty logic. "
" @auspiciousqueue:
I'd say it does... We have free healthcare, care for homeless (there's almost no homeless people in northern Sweden, at least I haven't seen any), free schools + school food, etc etc
really the list just goes on.
But yeah, since I'm a gamer, it kind of pisses me off. 349 Swedish kroner is 2400 MS points, versus $29,99 in the US. 349kr is about $50 converted. "
sucks doesnt it, having the government steal all of YOUR hard earned money, and giving it to people who dont deserve it... thats why im a republican
That's right, hundreds of billions of dollars.
I admire your desire to end forced wealth transfers, but claiming Republicans have any historical background to draw upon in that regard is simply inaccurate.
" @h0lgr said:Yeah, well, at least we aren't afraid of our "government". Besides, how come free healthcare for me, free schoo for me, free schoolfood for me is "people who don't deserve it"?" @auspiciousqueue:sucks doesnt it, having the government steal all of YOUR hard earned money, and giving it to people who dont deserve it... thats why im a republican "
I'd say it does... We have free healthcare, care for homeless (there's almost no homeless people in northern Sweden, at least I haven't seen any), free schools + school food, etc etc
really the list just goes on.
But yeah, since I'm a gamer, it kind of pisses me off. 349 Swedish kroner is 2400 MS points, versus $29,99 in the US. 349kr is about $50 converted. "
Really, narrow minded people like you...
But this is getting way outta hand, way off topic. Sorry guys.
And bullshit Swedes have no reason to be afraid of their government. The "anti-piracy" bill they passed into law last year did nothing to end piracy, but heavily mitigated internet freedom. Never mind the fact that Sweden's government doesn't allow its people to prosecute trespassers.
Excuse me? Healthcare should be a market? What the fuck? I should earn my healthcare?" @h0lgr: If you deserve something, you can earn it in a free market. If you can't acquire something without stealing it or distorting the marketplace to get it, then you don't deserve it. And bullshit Swedes have no reason to be afraid of their government. The "anti-piracy" bill they passed into law last year did nothing to end piracy, but heavily mitigated internet freedom. Never mind the fact that Sweden's government doesn't allow its people to prosecute trespassers. "
EDIT: See what you mean now, text can be mad confusing considering irony.
But yeah, prosecuting trespassers... I'm not exactly sure what you are refering to here. Trespassers on my property or trespassing piracy-wise?
And like I said, you may not be afraid of your government, but it doesn't change the fact that they gave you the right to nomadism in lieu of the right to own the product of your own mind.
Well beats your government lying to the people,starting an illegal war, making the country the most hated it has ever been, ruining the economy,setting up juicy contracts for their buddies in iraq, causing a minimum 92,000 civilian casualties estimated in iraq,wasting stupid amounts of money on weapons while leaving New Orleans in a mess.
Homophobia, abandonment of the most vulnerbale,individualism of the most sickening kind.Ignorance,
anti intellectualism,nepotism,outing an agent...You are an intelligent guy but campaign under something other than being a Republican.
I would lick the sweat off Barack's ballsack before I will have any respect for a republican.
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